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  • #32
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Luketie123 wrote: »
    Well lad sim just a bit confused on which shotgun to get o/u such as a second hand beretta in or abouts 1000e or a semi auto such as a browning maxus I will be using it for snipe pheasant fox duck crows pigeons and in the of season clays I'm only starting of at clays I don't no if I will start competive yet and if u hav any recomendations happy to hear dem
    A brand new Beretta Urika will start at around €1,050 so your budget will cover whatever you want.

    I have and use both an O/U and Semi auto. The semi auto is fantastic. The thrid shot is very handy, the recoil is less than the O/U, and the fit is perfect. The drawback is only one choke so i choose more carefully before going out.

    The O/U is a quality gun too. Dual chokes, and easier at a clay shoot (break open). However once you handle it right a semi auto is every bit as good at a clay shoot as an O/U. I would not let this be the deciding factor. A game gun will be lighter than a sporter, but also not suited towards clays (at least not constantly).

    You need to go out and shoulder a few guns. You might be looking for a semi auto, but find that none suit you. Once you narrow down a few makes/models that suit then you can decide, based on what they are, if it's a semi auto or O/U you want/need to go for.
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  • #33
    cookimonster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭cookimonster


    When I was considerably younger I bought a pump action because the opertunity was there and I fancied it. Over the years it got some use but I always got a kick, no pune intended, out of it.
    Later on in life when i took up clay shooting on a very regularl basis, I was given the opertunity to use a o/u and got quite proficient with it. Every one I shot with at that time used o/u and I fully intended to buy one, until.......
    I got the chance to spend a good few hours shooting various different shotguns including semis, there and then I made up my mind to buy one and within the year I had one and haven't looked back.
    The point is, buy what you like, are comfortable with and can reasonable shoot well (no perfect gun fit will guarantee your abilities to shoot well in the beginning) otherwise you will always be secound guessing your choice. You'll only know by giving various guns a go and you never know you might end up like the rest of us with a cabinet full of guns to tickle your fancy when the mood or time calls for it.


  • #34
    dodderangler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Cass I ever meant to come across saying all semi owners are doing what i said but I just don't see any point in taking a third shot on a bird after missing first two.
    Each to their own but it's my opinion on it as I don't see it being sporting.
    Again I meant no disrespect to any semi auto owners here but I just said what I seen.
    I can see the uses for having a semi when it comes to pigeon shooting or crows or odd fox as it's taking them out.


  • #35
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    dodderangler wrote: »
    Exactly. IMO if you miss with two let it live for the hunt another day. Anyone who takes the 3rd is out purely just to kill. Not to enjoy the hunt.
    Can't beat the old reliables huh
    pure waffle,what if you had a lad either side of a ditch one lad misses with 2 shots and the bird crosses over , should the other lad just not fire:confused: .What the **** do you shoot for ..yes to kill if it was just for the hunt go out with just dogs and leave the gun at home.
    To the op a lot of super high end guns on the market for 1000 euro,just make sure the gun fits you properly and look and look and look till you are happy with the gun your going for ,stay away from any Turkish ****e,will only break your heart.


  • #36
    TriggerPL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭TriggerPL


    Aren't a lot of the new beretta been made in Turkey ? And hence the reason there quality isn't as gud as it one was .

    And the main reason I didn go for a beretta is the customer support is the worste I've ever seen .

    I've seen a new silver pigeon a year old , and hairline cracks came in the stock of it , beretta wouldn cover it's replacement , saying it over the year .

    Buy a browning, or pick up a beretta about ten years old brilliant quality back then


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  • #37
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,482 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    TriggerPL wrote: »
    Aren't a lot of the new beretta been made in Turkey ? And hence the reason there quality isn't as gud as it one was .

    And the main reason I didn go for a beretta is the customer support is the worste I've ever seen .

    I've seen a new silver pigeon a year old , and hairline cracks came in the stock of it , beretta wouldn cover it's replacement , saying it over the year .

    Buy a browning, or pick up a beretta about ten years old brilliant quality back then

    The top end competition guns; 692, DT10 etc. are all still made in Italy. It's the cheaper semi autos etc. that they've farmed out to Turkey with their own tooling.


  • #38
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    TriggerPL wrote: »
    Aren't a lot of the new beretta been made in Turkey ? And hence the reason there quality isn't as gud as it one was .

    And the main reason I didn go for a beretta is the customer support is the worste I've ever seen .

    I've seen a new silver pigeon a year old , and hairline cracks came in the stock of it , beretta wouldn cover it's replacement , saying it over the year .

    Buy a browning, or pick up a beretta about ten years old brilliant quality back then
    Just the "cheaper" line of beretta anything new for around 1000 i wouldnt touch.Just looking back on my post i should have said super used guns on the market for around 1000


  • #39
    TriggerPL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭TriggerPL


    Ye the only berettas ul get for round the grand are silver pigeons or semis all made in Turkey .


  • #40
    valerossi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭valerossi


    Noting like a harmless question to start an argument in our little shooting community eh:)
    Semi autos are fine lad just let you last cartage be a heavier load so it has the legs to get to the bird because if you missed the first two he's making a b line to the next parish. Theirs more maintenance in a semi to mush not much and don't worry about chokes lad, they've been fixed at full/modified longer than interchangeably.
    With €1000 you can have pretty much have any second hand shotgun your average dealer has so check for a good fit and don't set your heart on any make or model. Go in with an open mind you could walk out with a side by side delighted with it.

    If you can bring someone from the club with you who knows a good secondhand shotgun is more than a name and a clean stock. And I'm sure you already have pm's from from lads looking to sell their guns.


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