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Abusing candidates/canvassers - where is the line?

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  • #32
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Also yer man with the camera saying "run as an independent so" - fcuk off, she can run for whomever she damn well pleases. Same as anyone else - FF, FG, SF, whichever.

    Who does this idiot think he is?


  • #33
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    lertsnim wrote: »
    Carole is a knacker who was full of chat till someone said something about her 21 year old daughter. Well able to give it but cannot take it. Typical of someone like her.

    Don't know the woman and never heard her talk on any matters but if she's a knacker it looks like she's in the right constituency, if those people following her around are representative of that constituency


  • #34
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Are the 'Dublin Says No' group contesting the local elections or do they just like to wallow in their own anger?


  • #35
    Maudi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    Eleven austerity suicides a week..Eleven..people..irish people you dumwit..kill themselves..because of this gov austerity (its not really austerity its money shovelled out of the country to bondholders/imf.) Children are put out of their homes by the thousands because of repossessions..homeless figures are at an epidemic level..irish people are eating out of bins.for christs sake!!.emigration is rife..working people are the new poor..and you expect citizens to what? Have tables on the streets laden with tea and scones coronation style to welcome the parasitic van guards of the political dynasty that caused this corrupt cash grab to happen ..yes welcome ..come tell me more lies to my face and why I should vote corruption once again..I dont think so pal..people have woken up..


  • #36
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Maudi wrote: »
    Eleven austerity suicides a week..Eleven..people..irish people you dumwit..kill themselves..because of this gov austerity (its not really austerity its money shovelled out of the country to bondholders/imf.) Children are put out of their homes by the thousands because of repossessions..homeless figures are at an epidemic level..irish people are eating out of bins.for christs sake!!.emigration is rife..working people are the new poor..and you expect citizens to what? Have tables on the streets laden with tea and scones coronation style to welcome the parasitic van guards of the political dynasty that caused this corrupt cash grab to happen ..yes welcome ..come tell me more lies to my face and why I should vote corruption once again..I dont think so pal..people have woken up..
    Lol

    Your Oscar is in the post


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  • #37
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,548 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    It's no worse than the bickering and shouting that goes on in the Dail and Seanad or in any local council meeting.


  • #38
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Jeesus the folks in that video are scumbags.

    The usual ****tard behaviour, keep on needling some poor fecker to try to get a reaction. Nice sly little shove or dig off camera 18 seconds in too.

    They should try running for office themselves. Maybe after they loose their deposit on the 2 votes they get from their mammy and daddy they might skulk away and realise no one gives a flying fcuk about them


  • #39
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Maudi wrote: »
    Eleven austerity suicides a week..Eleven..people..irish people you dumwit..kill themselves..because of this gov austerity (its not really austerity its money shovelled out of the country to bondholders/imf.) Children are put out of their homes by the thousands because of repossessions..homeless figures are at an epidemic level..irish people are eating out of bins.for christs sake!!.emigration is rife..working people are the new poor..and you expect citizens to what? Have tables on the streets laden with tea and scones coronation style to welcome the parasitic van guards of the political dynasty that caused this corrupt cash grab to happen ..yes welcome ..come tell me more lies to my face and why I should vote corruption once again..I dont think so pal..people have woken up..

    And the alternative proposed by the loonies captured in this video is so attractive that they're riding high in the opinion polls!

    Oh, wait.........


  • #40
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Maudi wrote: »
    Eleven austerity suicides a week..Eleven..people..irish people you dumwit..kill themselves..because of this gov austerity (its not really austerity its money shovelled out of the country to bondholders/imf.) Children are put out of their homes by the thousands because of repossessions..homeless figures are at an epidemic level..irish people are eating out of bins.for christs sake!!.emigration is rife..working people are the new poor..and you expect citizens to what? Have tables on the streets laden with tea and scones coronation style to welcome the parasitic van guards of the political dynasty that caused this corrupt cash grab to happen ..yes welcome ..come tell me more lies to my face and why I should vote corruption once again..I dont think so pal..people have woken up..

    You can vote for whoever you damn well please - you can tell candidates, canvassers to fcuk off from your doorstep, never darken your door again etc etc.

    But I don't care how angry you are - you don't get to harass people off public streets because you disagree with their political policies. You're not entitled to make that decision for other people. You're not entitled to bully people, no matter who they are or what group they belong to.

    The people can make their decisions for themselves in the ballot box - they don't need unhinged lunatics like Dublin Says No to make that decision for them.

    Grow up


  • #41
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,548 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    tritium wrote: »
    They should try running for office themselves. Maybe after they loose their deposit on the 2 votes they get from their mammy and daddy they might skulk away and realise no one gives a flying fcuk about them

    They seem to realise that already. Probably has something to do with them screaming at candidates.


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  • #42
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Maudi wrote: »
    Children are put out of their homes by the thousands
    Is this in Ireland? First I've heard of it.


  • #43
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    No Pants wrote: »
    Is this in Ireland? First I've heard of it.

    More sensationalist rubbish that damages any decent opposition to the Government much more than it damages the Government themselves.

    Like, who really wants to be on the same side as someone who posts so much drivel?


  • #44
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    tritium wrote: »
    Jeesus the folks in that video are scumbags.

    The usual ****tard behaviour, keep on needling some poor fecker to try to get a reaction. Nice sly little shove or dig off camera 18 seconds in too.

    They should try running for office themselves. Maybe after they loose their deposit on the 2 votes they get from their mammy and daddy they might skulk away and realise no one gives a flying fcuk about them

    But I thought they speak for the plain people of Ireland, don't they? :rolleyes: :pac:


  • #45
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    No Pants wrote: »
    Is this in Ireland? First I've heard of it.
    Everyone knows that there's an inverse correlation between the size of a wall of text and the number of facts contained therein.


  • #46
    Pumpkinseeds
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    There's no excuse for it. Election day is when you make your statement, based on who you do or don't vote for. If people can't make their point in a calm and reasoned manner they should just not bother opening the door to canvassers.

    I know who I'm voting for so I don't bother opening the door for the rest of them. There seems to be an awful lot of hysteria around these elections. I'm more annoyed by the idiots who are still trying to protest against water charges etc.


  • #47
    wendell borton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    While I don't have too much love for labour at the moment those actions were out of order. There's something very creepy about filming intimation and posting it on youtube.


  • #48
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,698 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    More sensationalist rubbish that damages any decent opposition to the Government much more than it damages the Government themselves.

    Like, who really wants to be on the same side as someone who posts so much drivel?

    Not I. :(

    However, I feel comfortable that there are solid arguments for not giving any of the major parties preferences at this point in time. Certainly, for me at least, Jobsbridge on its own is reason enough not to vote for FG / Labour.


  • #49
    ahnowbrowncow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    Davarus Walrus wrote: »
    Do you understand what a coalition government means? It means that the two parties came together and compromised on what decisions and policies they would implement. None of it was going to be good news. Considering the unprecedented situation we found ourselves in, I think they did a rather good job. Money doesn't grow on trees you know. If you want services then you need to pay for them.

    So many eejits don't get this. What are Labour supposed to do? They're the minority government and have to compromise on many issues.

    Not that I'll be voting for them after jobbridge and Sean Sherlock and his internet censorship. There's not many left for me to vote for though.


  • #50
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Maudi wrote: »
    Children are put out of their homes by the thousands because of repossessions..irish people are eating out of bins
    Where are you getting the above from?
    and you expect citizens to what? Have tables on the streets laden with tea and scones
    No. It's not like there's only that or yelling abuse at them and nothing in between.


  • #51
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I <3 the young woman passing by, pushing a buggy, who stops to see what's going on and defends the candidate. "Just let her do her own thing, for fcuk's sake!" I daresay she's more representative of this and all constituencies than Dublin Says No and their tactics. Hope so anyway.


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  • #52
    Maudi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    Uriel. wrote: »
    Lol

    Your Oscar is in the post

    Im glad misery and suicide give you such a giggle..canvassing go well earlier?


  • #53
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Maudi wrote: »
    Im glad misery and suicide give you such a giggle..canvassing go well earlier?

    Sorry, you're only allowed one Oscar a day, come back and try again tomorrow. Thank you.


  • #54
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Maudi wrote: »
    Im glad misery and suicide give you such a giggle..canvassing go well earlier?

    People playing the suicide card are hysterical. :D


  • #55
    cletus van damme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    So let me get this straight so I don't make a faux pas...

    The rules of AH with regard to public abuse are that

    Abusing John Waters is ok
    But abusing a politician is not.


    Ok so far??


  • #56
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Maudi wrote: »
    Im glad misery and suicide give you such a giggle..canvassing go well earlier?

    Moronic statement

    Where are you getting your figures from? Are all the suicides in the country down to austerity? Did you ask them?

    Using the suicide card to make a political attack point is a scummy thing to do


  • #57
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    cletus van damme wrote: »
    So let me get this straight so I don't make a faux pas...

    The rules of AH with regard to public abuse are that

    Abusing John Waters is ok
    But abusing a politician is not.


    Ok so far??

    When entering AH you must remember this quote:
    "We won't play by their rules, we'll invent our own"


  • #58
    tempnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭tempnam


    What I found funny is that as soon as the lad canvassing started filming 'the abusers' the scumbag aul one in the blue was goin mad! "Get your camera out of my face! "

    Also, who are these eejits to try represent my views? They have no right to speak for me.

    To the people who think the abuse is deserved; and those who said they would just ignore / slam their door in a politician's face etc... how do you expect them to know what your problem is if you wont engage with them? Wouldnt it be better to tell them why youre NOT voting for them? If everyone did this they might eventually get the picture...


  • #59
    beach_walker
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 976 ✭✭✭beach_walker


    I don't really approve of their actions, and certainly don't like the camera in the face tactics of yer man. Still I don't feel too much sympathy for any Labour candidate getting stick on the streets.

    Makes a change from the deferential attitude to politicans that is (was?) endemic across the country. My auld pair are the worst for it. I was visiting up home yesterday when a local sitting councillor called. They were giving out loads about him afterwards, reneging on promises to sort out some issues on the street but when it came to it, they shook his hands and promised him a preference (which they won't give btw). Sigh


  • #60
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    So conflicted about the video, don't know where to begin.

    It's wrong to abuse politicians on one hand but you can only expect inchoate, unsophisticated anger in the places worst affected by your governance.


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  • #61
    jdooley28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭jdooley28


    Maudi wrote: »
    Eleven austerity suicides a week..Eleven..people..irish people you dumwit..kill themselves..because of this gov austerity (its not really austerity its money shovelled out of the country to bondholders/imf.) Children are put out of their homes by the thousands because of repossessions..homeless figures are at an epidemic level..irish people are eating out of bins.for christs sake!!.emigration is rife..working people are the new poor..and you expect citizens to what? Have tables on the streets laden with tea and scones coronation style to welcome the parasitic van guards of the political dynasty that caused this corrupt cash grab to happen ..yes welcome ..come tell me more lies to my face and why I should vote corruption once again..I dont think so pal..people have woken up..

    How many?


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