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Why the lack of coverage?

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  • #62
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,189 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    catallus wrote: »
    Don't worry OP, they're just saving up all the ink for two years time; we'll all be sick of 1916 by the time the Centenary Celebrations are over.

    I'll be sick of every politician and their dog using it as a PR opportunity.


  • #63
    orangesoda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »

    The best thing we could do for the 1916 anniversary is hand the keys back and apologise for the mess we made of the place.

    Sure who even says the Britons want the extra land?


  • #64
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Spring Onion wrote: »
    On the money.

    Yeah, it was a sterling effort.


  • #65
    sillyoulfool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Having lived and worked overseas for a good few years. It's one of the very few things that other nationalities seem to know about our history. The famous 1916 Rising and the shots that eventually brought down an empire. Unfortunately for a revisionist like yourself, I'm sorry to say, the 1916 Rising granted a celebrate hero status to little Ireland and inspired many around the globe.

    Búll****, only a revisionist fantasist could believe that, typical revisionist claptrap that defies the actual historical truth!


  • #66
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    Búll****, only a revisionist fantasist could believe that, typical revisionist claptrap that defies the actual historical truth!


    It has to be said that despite all the talk of foaming at the mouth republicans, it seems to be the other lot getting a bit excited.


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  • #67
    Eight Ball
    Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    Disgraceful people take the piss out of what happened in 1916.


  • #68
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    No country is above criticism. It shouldn't be difficult though to be self reflexive and critical of Ireland without resorting to the unbelievable toadying and simpering stuff like the above. "Self loathing" is not wide of the mark at all. Not to mention the insulting of an entire population.
    The irony is, people like yourself and your thankers... live here, are Irish, do nothing to change things... yet somehow you feel you're in a position to criticise everyone else here, but not yourselves, despite being no different.

    I'd be interested to know also what exactly is the problem with joining the EU? Lots of "better" countries have joined it. Or is it just another thing to add to the "self flagellating for the sake of it" list?

    This is waffle, I would advise going through the rest of Kaiser's post and address each line on it's merits and context rather than isolating one part and looking for the chink.


  • #69
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    kowloon wrote: »
    I'll be sick of every politician and their dog using it as a PR opportunity.

    But most especially Sinn Fein, they will be unbearable.


  • #70
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    This is waffle, I would advise going through the rest of Kaiser's post and address each line on it's merits and context rather than isolating one part and looking for the chink.
    How is it waffle? I did go through Kaiser's entire post and just saw the usual "We're" to blame for clerical abuse (no we're not; the abusers are). Fair points on the politicians though.


  • #71
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    How is it waffle? I did go through Kaiser's entire post and just saw the usual "We're" to blame for clerical abuse (no we're not; the abusers are). Fair points on the politicians though.

    Reply to the post. I notice that people will never "quote" the whole post they are replying to when they are struggling to argue the points. Instead they file it under some cliché response, in this case "more self loathing", and attack one small aspect out of context, in this case EU membership.


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  • #72
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    Reply to the post. I notice that people will never "quote" the whole post they are replying to when they are struggling to argue the points. Instead they file it under some cliché response, in this case "more self loathing", and attack one small aspect out of context, in this case EU membership.
    There isn't always a need to quote an entire post. Even if I had done so, I'd have responded in the same way.
    How is what I said waffle?


  • #73
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    Feel free to actually read the rest of my post and prove to me that we don't actually have all our major legislation and budgets approved by the EU, that the Church didn't mentally, physically and sexually abuse kids for decades, that condoms were actually legal before the early-90s, that Enda Kenny isn't in the Dail 38 years with nothing besides a few years primary school teaching and hid Daddy's name to get him there etc etc

    The blind devotion to Ireland and refusal to acknowledge the many fundamental flaws it has is why the place IS the mess it is. Rather it is people with your attitude who accept this situation rather than speak out against it who are the weak-willed and servile among us.

    Of course the difference with being part of the EU machine is that we as free democratic nation made a collective decision to join the union, and any important changes that impinge further are decided by the Irish people. Legally, we can invoke our sovereignty and leave the EU if we felt it was genuinely better course.

    That's a very big difference compared to being ruled by imperialist forces with next to no democratic say regarding our present and future.

    The mistakes we make, the flaws we have, are ours andwe as a nation must take responsibility for them for sure and that is in part about maturity. We have many great aspects in our culture and most importantly we have our identity as a sovereign people. That for me is a priceless asset.


  • #74
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    There isn't always a need to quote an entire post. Even if I had done so, I'd have responded in the same way.
    How is what I said waffle?

    Yeah sure, waffle on.


  • #75
    sillyoulfool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Eight Ball wrote: »
    Disgraceful people take the piss out of what happened in 1916.

    What else could you do to such a sad, disorganized, unpopular, and pathetic charade?


  • #76
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    What else could you do to such a sad, disorganized, unpopular, and pathetic charade?

    .....

    Here, use this as well.


  • #77
    Worksforyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    Things need improving in Ireland but why would anyone want to rejoin the UK? A part of this island is still in the UK and that's not going too well is it? The last time the whole island was a part of the UK wasn't too good for Irish people either was it? You remember all the people that died, the slavery, the land stealing and all that don't you?
    Even Scotland want out of the UK and England isn't exactly paradise on Earth, loads of problems there. So we have problems, they need sorting but joining the UK would make them worse.


  • #78
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    What else could you do to such a sad, disorganized, unpopular, and pathetic charade?

    How popular and pathetic was the British torture of thousands Mau Mau's in Kenya? Tortured because they decided to fight back against tyranny, threats of violence and the theft of their land and resources..


  • #79
    Farty88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭Farty88


    Any tips for irish grand national???????????


  • #80
    Worksforyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    Farty88 wrote: »
    Any tips for irish grand national???????????

    Nototheuk


  • #81
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Some guys highjacked a post office and a biscuit factory and got shot 98 years ago. Don't care. I'll probably be watching football or formula 1 for the 100th.


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  • #82
    Worksforyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Some guys highjacked a post office and a biscuit factory and got shot 98 years ago. Don't care. I'll probably be watching football or formula 1 for the 100th.

    No you wont, you'll be out on the streets trying to lick the English queens ass! :D


  • #83
    Farty88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭Farty88


    Worksforyou wrote: »
    Nototheuk

    100% irish and proud


  • #84
    orangesoda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    Worksforyou wrote: »
    Things need improving in Ireland but why would anyone want to rejoin the UK? A part of this island is still in the UK and that's not going too well is it? The last time the whole island was a part of the UK wasn't too good for Irish people either was it? You remember all the people that died, the slavery, the land stealing and all that don't you?
    Even Scotland want out of the UK and England isn't exactly paradise on Earth, loads of problems there. So we have problems, they need sorting but joining the UK would make them worse.

    i'm confused, you called republicans vermin and you also seem anti-UK, so what's your views on the Vikings?


  • #85
    Worksforyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    orangesoda wrote: »
    i'm confused, you called republicans vermin and you also seem anti-UK, so what's your views on the Vikings?

    I hate everyone, including myself. Stupid thick Irish bafoon that I am but really I think you're confusing me with someone else.


  • #86
    orangesoda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    Worksforyou wrote: »
    I hate everyone, including myself. Stupid thick Irish bafoon that I am but really I think you're confusing me with someone else.

    no wait that was 'sillyoulfool' who called them vermin in the other thread


  • #87
    Worksforyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Worksforyou


    orangesoda wrote: »
    no wait that was 'sillyoulfool' who called them vermin in the other thread

    Easy to get me confused with a silly oul fool I suppose. :(


  • #88
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    a sad, disorganized, unpopular, and pathetic charade?

    I'd say they well knew that Home Rule would be an opiate for idiots and would most likely have seen Ireland becoming a dependency of Britain.

    I suspect your anti-Republican neurosis does not allow room for critical thought though so what I've wrote will be lost on you.


  • #89
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    Nah, not true.
    More romanticised revisionism.
    We were going to get as much limited autonomy under Home Rule than we got under the Free State.
    Revisionism or not, no one knows what way it would have panned out had the rising not taken place.


    Alternate history belongs only in the fiction section.


  • #90
    sillyoulfool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    I suspect your anti-Republican neurosis does not allow room for critical thought though so what I've wrote will be lost on you.

    By "republican" I take it you mean those civilian bombing, drug peddling, child killing scum, who spent 3 decades on a worthless killfest in order that they could become so much a part of the establishment, that after their inglorious surrender they would be invited to the palace to have dinner with the Queen?


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  • #91
    Birroc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    By "republican" I take it you mean those civilian bombing, drug peddling, child killing scum, who spent 3 decades on a worthless killfest in order that they could become so much a part of the establishment, that after their inglorious surrender they would be invited to the palace to have dinner with the Queen?

    :eek:...harsh but true!


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