Why the lack of coverage?

que pasa · 20-04-2014 03:10PM #1

I was having a read of the papers this morning and discovered that there is a military parade commemorating the 1916 Rising today. However, there is no mention of this in the Irish Times or the Irish Indo. I got this source from the Sunday World (http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/news/military-ceremony-to-commemorate-1916-easter-rising).

It seems as though every year the 1916 celebrations are played down and they are over before you even know they were scheduled. Fair enough, RTE had live coverage but why was it not advertised prior to this?

Do we not deserve our own Battelle Day or 4th of July or would it be fair to say that we don't live in an independent country?

sillyoulfool · 20-04-2014 03:20PM

que pasa wrote: »

I was having a read of the papers this morning and discovered that there is a military parade commemorating the 1916 Rising today. However, there is no mention of this in the Irish Times or the Irish Indo. I got this source from the Sunday World (http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/news/military-ceremony-to-commemorate-1916-easter-rising).

It seems as though every year the 1916 celebrations are played down and they are over before you even know they were scheduled. Fair enough, RTE had live coverage but why was it not advertised prior to this?

Do we not deserve our own Battelle Day or 4th of July or would it be fair to say that we don't live in an independent country?

1916 is way over-hyped, a failed and highly unpopular uprising led by a rag tag of extreme socialists on one side and extreme reactionary catholics on the other.
Why would we celebrate such an unpopular and failed enterprise?

Jesus Wept · 20-04-2014 03:21PM

Today is about celebrating chocolate. Don't you dare attempt to hijack that.

jamo2oo9 · 20-04-2014 03:25PM

Our Year wrote: »

Today is about celebrating chocolate. Don't you dare attempt to hijack that.

And weed. Very important that you don't forget that!

sillyoulfool · 20-04-2014 03:26PM

Our Year wrote: »

Today is about celebrating chocolate. Don't you dare attempt to hijack that.

We could have a 1916 Easter egg, it would be a distorted mishmash of different types of chocolate, and of course it would be cracked!:D:D

Femme_Fatale · 20-04-2014 03:27PM

Lead story on Today FM news bulletin.

que pasa · 20-04-2014 03:29PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Lead story on Today FM news bulletin.

At what time? After the event had happened?

RobertKK · 20-04-2014 03:38PM

So what was Sabina wearing, this is the most important thing according to the media.

catallus · 20-04-2014 03:38PM

Don't worry OP, they're just saving up all the ink for two years time; we'll all be sick of 1916 by the time the Centenary Celebrations are over.

shanec1928 · 20-04-2014 03:39PM

que pasa wrote: »

I was having a read of the papers this morning and discovered that there is a military parade commemorating the 1916 Rising today. However, there is no mention of this in the Irish Times or the Irish Indo. I got this source from the Sunday World (http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/news/military-ceremony-to-commemorate-1916-easter-rising).

It seems as though every year the 1916 celebrations are played down and they are over before you even know they were scheduled. Fair enough, RTE had live coverage but why was it not advertised prior to this?

Do we not deserve our own Battelle Day or 4th of July or would it be fair to say that we don't live in an independent country?

suprisingly thers one every year;)

RobertKK · 20-04-2014 03:40PM

catallus wrote: »

Don't worry OP, they're just saving up all the ink for two years time; we'll all be sick of 1916 by the time the Centenary Celebrations are over.

We will be ready for another revolution by then.

osarusan · 20-04-2014 03:41PM

que pasa wrote: »

or would it be fair to say that we don't live in an independent country?

This is the only conclusion that can be reached, I'm afraid.

Very sad.

orangesoda · 20-04-2014 03:42PM

There were commemorations up here today for the volunteers, I'll be commemorating the men who fought the Norsemen and Danes during the week though.

CarrickMcJoe · 20-04-2014 03:42PM

RobertKK wrote: »

So what was Sabina wearing, this is the most important thing according to the media.

You're so yesterday....It's WHO is Sabina wearing?

Tune into Tuesdays Lav Line to find out.

biko · 20-04-2014 03:44PM

Dublin rags in a nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvi9DjmINpA

Frank Lee Midere · 20-04-2014 03:46PM

sillyoulfool wrote: »

1916 is way over-hyped, a failed and highly unpopular uprising led by a rag tag of extreme socialists on one side and extreme reactionary catholics on the other.
Why would we celebrate such an unpopular and failed enterprise?

Because it led to the state you are living in?

Kermit.de.frog · 20-04-2014 03:47PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Because it led to the state you are living in?

We are in some state in fairness.

sillyoulfool · 20-04-2014 03:50PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Because it led to the state you are living in?

Nah, not true.
More romanticised revisionism.
We were going to get as much limited autonomy under Home Rule than we got under the Free State.

Kermit.de.frog · 20-04-2014 03:52PM

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Nah, not true.
More romanticised revisionism.
We were going to get as much limited autonomy under Home Rule than we got under the Free State.

That is revisionism. Do you think the British would have given us as many loopholes as they did to deconstruct our place in the empire over the following 20 years than they did had we not had the violence?

Their version of home rule would never have allowed successive governments to gradually dismantle British governance in Ireland like happened.

It would have been the end rather than the means to an end.

mickydoomsux · 20-04-2014 03:54PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Because it led to the state you are living in?

Yeah? And?

It's done now and it's nearly a hundred years later. It's about time we got the place sorted out and running like a first world country rather than spending our time looking back.

Rather than waxing fantastic about the people involved how's about we shut the **** up and create a nation that's worth being proud of instead of going on and on about sacrifice and heroism and what not.

Surely that would do their memory more justice that numerous parades and ceremonies?

RobertKK · 20-04-2014 04:01PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Yeah? And?

It's done now and it's nearly a hundred years later. It's about time we got the place sorted out and running like a first world country rather than spending our time looking back.

Rather than waxing fantastic about the people involved how's about we shut the **** up and create a nation that's worth being proud of instead of going on and on about sacrifice and heroism and what not.

Surely that would do their memory more justice that numerous parades and ceremonies?

The politicians have it hijacked already.

Santa Cruz · 20-04-2014 04:03PM

catallus wrote: »

Don't worry OP, they're just saving up all the ink for two years time; we'll all be sick of 1916 by the time the Centenary Celebrations are over.

Don't forget we will have the full approval of the British Royal Family. The media will use this to distract us from the real purpose of the commemoration.
I suppose it will be a sign that "we have matured as a nation"

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-04-2014 04:03PM

Two sets of lunatics fighting over who will control the people is nothing to celebrate the only losers for the next hundred years were the majority who did not have their noses buried in the trough

mickydoomsux · 20-04-2014 04:04PM

RobertKK wrote: »

The politicians have it hijacked already.

It's not even hijacking really. They are just doing what is expected of them by the public who treat the members of the rising like a holy pantheon that only exists to be revered ad nauseum.

Celebrate their achievements in your own way but for ****sake, get over it and get on with it.

So many sacred cows in this country.

Santa Cruz · 20-04-2014 04:05PM

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Nah, not true.
More romanticised revisionism.
We were going to get as much limited autonomy under Home Rule than we got under the Free State.

And under Home Rule we would still be supplying canon fodder for the British Army

sillyoulfool · 20-04-2014 04:09PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

And under Home Rule we would still be supplying canon fodder for the British Army

How so, bearing in mind there was no conscription in Ireland.
We would have been no worse off if we had waited for home rule, we could have used that the same way we used the Free State to gain full independence.
You revisionists seem to forget just how unpopular Pearse and the rest of those loons were up to their execution. 1916 was a highly unpopular and disorganized rising designed to cause mayhem.

RobertKK · 20-04-2014 04:09PM

The coverage will be worse than the 1913 lock out coverage and the tenements falling down....even though it was idiots burning wood that was part of their houses...

I don't mind remembering anniversaries but the problem is it is usually done to death to the point you are bored silly by it.

mickydoomsux · 20-04-2014 04:14PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

And under Home Rule we would still be supplying canon fodder for the British Army

Yeah, imagine that.

It not like the British Army actually has something like the Irish Guards or The Royal Irish Regiment that a good amount of people from the Republic enlist in to "supply cannon fodder for the British Army".

That kind of thing would only happen under Home Rule.

_Kaiser_ · 20-04-2014 04:14PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

That is revisionism. Do you think the British would have given us as many loopholes as they did to deconstruct our place in the empire over the following 20 years than they did had we not had the violence?

Their version of home rule would never have allowed successive governments to gradually dismantle British governance in Ireland like happened.

.. and then hand it over to the Church, who abused generations of Irish kids while keeping the social development of the country back for decades. Yep - well worthwhile!

Then we handed it off to the EU just as quick when the Church's influence started to loosen and sure we got some cash, but the EU has taken its fair share too in things like fishing rights (oh and forcing us and our kids to pay for the gambling debts of private institutions of course!), not to mention dismantling our hard-won "Independence" year after year to the point of where we are a tiny insignificant (but troublesome for our EU friends!) part in the glorious EU superstate - which itself is doomed to fail because of the inability to mix culture and politics with simple trade. The EU should never have grown beyond the EEC trade bloc it started as.

Back home what has Independence got us.. government after government of greedy, under-qualified, gombeens - cause shure letting a publican or primary school teacher behind the wheels of State can't go wrong! :rolleyes:

As for our laws and institutions, sure most of them are modelled on English examples anyway which wouldn't be a bad thing - except we don't learn from mistakes they made, and have to add an "Irish twist" to most of them so as to completely screw up the original intent.

The best thing we could do for the 1916 anniversary is hand the keys back and apologise for the mess we made of the place.

My name is URL · 20-04-2014 04:22PM

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

The best thing we could do for the 1916 anniversary is hand the keys back and apologise for the mess we made of the place.

Pretty much sums up the meek, servile and week-willed attitude of most Irish people.

So much self loathing and bitterness. It fills me with joy that so many people with your attitude wake up every morning realizing ye still live here.

The UK as an economy or a society isn't exactly more progressive than we are. It's fast becoming one of the most xenophobic and separatist nations in the EU.. and is well on its way to being a fully fledged nanny state. Shur it's no wonder so many Irish look up to it!

Kermit.de.frog · 20-04-2014 04:27PM

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

The best thing we could do for the 1916 anniversary is hand the keys back and apologise for the mess we made of the place.

It's your vote. Use it properly than governments will be different.

I despise people who use terms like this.

It's not governments choosing to run Ireland - it is the people that choose the governments. Nothing to do with independence.

If that's what the people want, that is what they get.

We have nothing to apologise for as a sovereign country. Have some self respect and actually help change things rather than demean yourself and the rest of us with such silly comments.

You clearly have an inferiority complex.

Why the lack of coverage?

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