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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Dublin have used 36 players in 8 league games.Appearances+Subs for 2014 League Games

    Cooper, Jonny 8
    Macauley, Michael Darragh 7+1
    O'Gara, Eoghan 5+3
    Cluxton, Stephen 7
    McMahon, Philip 7
    McManamon, Kevin 7
    Byrne, Davy(Ballymun) 2+5
    Nelson, Darragh 2+5
    O'Sullivan, Cian 6
    Brogan, Alan 5+1
    Reddin, Ciaran 5+1
    Nolan, Kevin 3+3
    McCaffrey, Jack 2+4
    Fitzsimons, Michael 5
    McCarthy, James 5
    Andrews, Paddy 4+1
    Brady, Tomas 2+3
    Cullen, Bryan 4
    George, Sean 4
    Kilkenny, Ciaran 4
    Costello, Cormac 3+1
    Carty, Shane 2+2
    Whelan, Jason 2+2
    Devereux, Nicky 1+3
    Connolly, Diarmuid 3
    Flynn, Paul 3
    O'Carroll, Rory 3
    Lowndes, Eric 3
    Daly, Darren 2+1
    O'Mahony, Declan 2+1
    Hudson, Paul 1+2
    Currie, Sean 1+1
    Mannion, Paul 0+2
    Brogan, Bernard 0+1
    O'Brien, Kevin 0+1
    Watson, Daniel 0+1


    Dublin have scored 11-119(152) and conceded 10-107(137) in 8 league games. Scorers 2014 League Games

    McManamon, Kevin 2-17
    O'Gara, Eoghan 3-5
    Connolly, Diarmuid 1-9
    Brogan, Alan 0-10
    Costello, Cormac 0-10
    Cluxton, Stephen 0-9
    Andrews, Paddy 1-8
    Macauley, Michael Darragh 2-2
    Hudson, Paul 0-7
    Kilkenny, Ciaran 0-6
    Whelan, Jason 1-3
    Brogan, Bernard 0-5
    Reddin, Ciaran 0-5
    McCarthy, James 1-1
    Byrne, Davy(Ballymun) 0-3
    Carty, Shane 0-3
    Cooper, Jonny 0-3
    Cullen, Bryan 0-2
    Flynn, Paul 0-2
    Mannion, Paul 0-2
    McMahon, Philip 0-2
    O'Sullivan, Cian 0-2
    Brady, Tomas 0-1
    McCaffrey, Jack 0-1
    Nelson, Darragh 0-1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    My jaysis wasn't it cold in Croker? - was out of the house for 8 o clock yesterday morning bringing the young lads to the Dublin development trials and for the 1st time in memory rather than going home afterwards and coming back in, I waited for the turnstiles to open in Croker. Sat in the Cusack doin my frostie the snowman impression, warmed slightly early on by Derrys performance and in particular Lynch & McKaigue. That glow quickly abated when our match started - 15 strangers on the field getting to know one another while Cork just sniped and darted around them. I've always had an admiration for Corks forward play but couldn't appreciate their finer points yesterday while lost and befuddled at the total lack of organisation in the Dublin ranks. My mood wasn't helped by the late arrival of the crowd next to me, who unlike me had a nice Sunday dinner of I'd say a gallon pints while watching the soccer and their sole contribution was tellin me yer man is "phukinshih" .. O'Mahony phukinshih, Whelan phukinshih.

    My halftime routine when there's a small crowd in Croker is generally to spot a few vacant spaces in the Hogan and wander over there to aid the quick getaway at fulltime. I knew if I started to wander yesterday I'd keep going out the Jones' Road into the car with heater full blast and home, the Hogan was in complete shadow so it was gonna be colder than the Cusack, for better or worse I nailed me arse to the seat and strapped on the seatbelt for what I expected to be more of the same 2nd half.... the rest is history... I didn't see that coming... I even hugged yer man when Connolly scored ... certainly didn't see that coming :D

    Random thoughts ... we might be a bit more circumspect in criticising stand in goalkeepers (Supple, Savage and Currie), when the best out there adds their own clanger to the hall of shame.

    Cian O' Sullivans absence yesterday had a knock on effect of 3-4 guys playing in positions not suited to their style of play.

    MDM when he switched on was the heart and soul of Dublin football he pulled each and every player by the lugs to give another 20%.

    Diarmuid Connolly can fill the gap left this year by the greatest of them all as the ginger headed one recuperates in Killarney - marmite to some but the finest footballer in this country left on 2 legs ;)

    Eoghan O'Garas improvement is immeasurable compared to the bambi on ice we saw a couple of years ago - nothing better demonstrated how far he's come than the point he scored turning back in on his left to clip it over the bar.

    I purposely haven't called for O'Gara to start every match in light of a comment I heard yesterday - that Jim Gavin likes for his strongest 15 players to be on the field at the end of every match. Eoghan O' Gara should finish every match.

    Finally to finish, I thought there were 3 worthwhile comments from respected analysts of the game - Eugene McGee said that he doubts there's a team that can beat Dublin over 70 minutes, while there are those that can beat them for prolonged periods of general play in a game.

    Colm O'Rourke remarked that Dublin are head and shoulders above all the other challengers

    and Vincent Hogan ended his article with the simple closer "For now, it's Dublin's world . The rest of us just live in it."

    Come to think of it 12 hours out the house and frostbite in my toes was all worth it yesterday


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,748 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Great day and cold as well alright. Not impressed personally at the press reaction, dubs were erratic and not reliable coming in according to the press, nothing really changed and now we are world beaters. Meanwhile Cork and Mayo are nearly written off after average days out.

    The press can't seem to help the massive overreaction to every result.

    All in all it was an enjoyable day, and with McCaffrey and Costello to come back, along with hopefully Mannion reappearing and finding form it's hopeful for Dublin. The back 6 is looking better with a few options and Brennan to come back, but still lacking concentration on occasion. Midfield is still an issue, with the search for options not really yeilding great results so far. It still looks like O'sulivan and MDMA with Flynn and Connolly coming back to field kick out each side looks like the best option. With Flynn, or McCarthy possibly filling in when required the likely backup. I'd like to see Bastick and even Fennell brought in as subs at least now for that option. Nicky Dev did well in last two games and has the pace to make itin this team also, but probably off bench.

    Up front we have quite a few options now, starting looks relatively clear cut in my opinion. O'Gara, brogan, Andrews, Flynn, brogan, Connolly. With Andrews position the one up for grabs, Mannion, Kevin Mc, Costello fighting for it. All quality players, and any could start easily. Cullen has shown he has plenty still this season in my opinion also, with some classy sensible play and Davy Byrne has shown a real appetite for hoovering up breaking ball, but leaves a gap on one side for fielding that is too hard to overcome imo, he is more suited to sub to come on when it's not such an issue and running is required.

    Feeding the U21s back in to the setup now is the slightly tricky thing to time, would have been nice to see some of them get a big game like the semi or final as the next big one one at same pace is probably not for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Cork are a side with good forwards but a very weak MF and an unsettled defence.
    Dublin would not have come back against a battle hardened outfit like Donegal.

    Eh....'scuse me...were you not in Ballybofey last April? I sure as heck was. :D

    I seem to remember a Dublin team (that was lacking a lot of its superstars) having the bottle to come back from a 3 pt deficit and, grit out an injury time draw, against a full strength, very much battle hardened Donegal squad. That result cemented Dublins spot at the top of Division One and consigned Donegal to Division Two.

    At the end of the season, Jim Gavin specifically mentioned it as a game that showcased Dublins mental toughness, that they would not have won the AI without. Add in another Celtic Cross picked up along the way and its safe to say that this Dublin team don't ever, ever give up or capitulate.


    .....And in other news....yes, I froze my giblets off in Croke Park too. That lovely warm bar at the Canal End (with the toasty rads that you can warm your frozen fingers and toes on) was crying out my name, all afternoon long. But I just couldn't bear being that far away from the action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Miccoli


    Its brilliant to see the never say die attitude these days. During the 2000s that game would have ended in a thumping. I believe Cork will be our biggest threat this year. This defeat may well stand to them and make them a better team, Just like the 2011 league final helped Dublin Immensely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Cork will be there or thereabouts, make no mistake. They'll learn from Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,652 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    I was very impressed with the Dubs in the 2nd half on Sunday. They will steamroll through Leinster. The fear would be complacency in the AI series. The options they have available up front is frightening and Dublin are the only team out their that wouldn't miss the likes of Ciaran Kilkenny. The only worry is the midfield as I think COS is more suited to the center half back roll. If they can sort that area out I reckon we will be looking at a back to back All Ireland success. Up the Dubs:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Saint Sonner


    Hi I am looking some advice.

    I will be moving to dublin within next couple of weeks and I am looking to get an appropriate Football club in the stillorgan area. I know kilmacud are there however I want to be sure I go to someone that is right for my level.

    I played senior club football then intermediate club football for my club in Tyrone for the last 10 years. I was never close to county standard but I would have been okay on the club scene. I would like to continue playing football down here.

    Anyone any helpful advice.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    Hi I am looking some advice.

    I will be moving to dublin within next couple of weeks and I am looking to get an appropriate Football club in the stillorgan area. I know kilmacud are there however I want to be sure I go to someone that is right for my level.

    I played senior club football then intermediate club football for my club in Tyrone for the last 10 years. I was never close to county standard but I would have been okay on the club scene. I would like to continue playing football down here.

    Anyone any helpful advice.

    Thanks

    Try this thread, http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055821624


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭TheBomber14


    heard from a friend that ciaran kilkenny is making unbelievable progress with his acl injury and could play before the summer is out


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    I'd prefer Ciarán took it easy on the recovery and sat it out like Gooch to be honest; the last thing we need is a player of his calibre rushing a return from such a serious injury


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    heard from a friend that ciaran kilkenny is making unbelievable progress with his acl injury and could play before the summer is out

    Your friend is seriously misinformed. Ciaran only had his operation last week. It will be a long time before he can walk without the aid of crutches and a cast, never mind do any serious rehab work on his knee. We won't see him at all for the rest of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    heard from a friend that ciaran kilkenny is making unbelievable progress with his acl injury and could play before the summer is out

    Same friend that told you about Seamus Scanlon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭TheBomber14


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Same friend that told you about Seamus Scanlon?

    yeah the very same fella actually, howd you know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Just incase any of the Dubs get some false hope from Bombers ramblings, please note that

    a) he has no friends
    b) he knows about as much about football as I do about astrology
    c) Ciaran Kilkenny is definitly out for the entire year and
    d) bomber will be back to school next week and things can get back to normal around here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭TheBomber14


    Just incase any of the Dubs get some false hope from Bombers ramblings, please note that

    a) he has no friends
    b) he knows about as much about football as I do about astrology
    c) Ciaran Kilkenny is definitly out for the entire year and
    d) bomber will be back to school next week and things can get back to normal around here!

    libellous comments, ur lucky i didnt report you! i apologise for my comment about ciaran kilkenny, was only going off what one of my mates was saying,!..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Anyone know if the DCB/GAA ticket office on Dorset St will be open tomorrow, it being National No Drinking Friday 'n all? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    I find myself in Longford for the weekend so I'm heading to Pearse Park to see the Minors, should be a good chance to see some upcoming talent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Good win the for the minors, didnt see or hear anything but a win is a win and another final to look forward too.
    Our youth system is top notch.

    Under 21's up next!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Joekers


    Cavan have been dominating this game so far but haven't showed much for it on the scoreboard only leading 7 points to 5 at halftime


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    Joekers wrote: »
    Cavan have been dominating this game so far but haven't showed much for it on the scoreboard only leading 7 points to 5 at halftime

    I would say it has been a 50 - 50 game so far but Cavan have been the more clinical of the teams . Dublin have had some amount of wides .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Dubs win by a point.

    Dublin by far the best team, on another day they'd have won by 10 points, need to be more clinical in future though.

    Cavan players and management were a disgrace after the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭hawkeyethenoo


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Dubs win by a point.

    Dublin by far the best team, on another day they'd have won by 10 points, need to be more clinical in future though.

    Cavan players and management were a disgrace after the game.

    the ref was shocking gave dublin everything. cavan should have been well up at half time. roscommon will beat dublin handily from what ive seen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Connorzee


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Dubs win by a point.

    Dublin by far the best team, on another day they'd have won by 10 points, need to be more clinical in future though.

    Cavan players and management were a disgrace after the game.

    The referee however was a disgrace during the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Joekers


    Connorzee wrote: »
    The referee however was a disgrace during the game

    Have to agree the ref was shocking and very biased towards Dublin the free Dublin got in which he allowed the player to take the shot hit the post then blow for the free was a joke, Cavan definitely have a right to feel robbed they battled very well and were undone by the ref.

    Dublin on the other hand will count their blessings today and will learn a lot they are much better than what they showed today and it should be a cracking final in two weeks time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Dubs win by a point.

    Dublin by far the best team, on another day they'd have won by 10 points, need to be more clinical in future though.

    Cavan players and management were a disgrace after the game.


    Imagine all the work they put in to be beaten by the referee? He didn't even play enough added time. 2 minutes and 1 minute if it was spent with a Dublin player lieing on the ground.

    McHugh scored the equalising point and should have been off the pitch for a black card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Thought the ref would be lynched there for a minute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Cry me a river lad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭fta93


    Whether McHugh should have got black or not is a moot point. He was having his jersey quite clearly pulled by the Cavan man in possession. It's not even a yellow.

    Don't think the ref did too badly. Maybe the black for the Cavan forward was harsh, looked like he fell/slipped into the tackle. Advantage was correct at the end, rule says he's entitled to bring it back 5 seconds later. On the injury time thing, Timekeeping shouldn't be in the refs hands.

    Scenes at the end weren't nice at all. Why would you want to be a referee only to be abused like that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    fta93 wrote: »
    Whether McHugh should have got black or not is a moot point. He was having his jersey quite clearly pulled by the Cavan man in possession. It's not even a yellow.

    Don't think the ref did too badly. Maybe the black for the Cavan forward was harsh, looked like he fell/slipped into the tackle. Advantage was correct at the end, rule says he's entitled to bring it back 5 seconds later. On the injury time thing, Timekeeping shouldn't be in the refs hands.

    Scenes at the end weren't nice at all. Why would you want to be a referee only to be abused like that?

    Was he pulled down by the Cavan man? No, he pulled the Cavan man down. That's a black card offence. Not the jersey pulling. Should have been a black card and Costelloe was lucky also.

    Cavan's best forward however was given a black card the minute the referee got a chance.

    The free was a soft free. Even Dublin supporters would admit that. The ones I spoke to at the game did.

    In regard to timekeeping, he has to be aware that a minute of the short two minutes had been wasted. There was no reason for him to blow up and deny Cavan the chance for one last attack given how close the game was.

    Referees that put themselves in situations like that don't help. Those players have put in huge effort and the referee has had a huge bearing on their exit.


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