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Obese person gets called obese, claims she's being bullied

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  • #92
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Holsten wrote: »
    She is HUGE! Jesus Christ.

    Slagging someone who is fat is nothing like race or sexuality! I mean insulting anyone isn't really that nice but you cannot compare the two. Anyone can lose weigh,t the problem is most are just too damn lazy to do it.

    She is an idiot.

    Are you psychic?

    Ironic how people have no trouble writing a post like that, then ending it with that sort of last line.


  • #93
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    Red Nissan wrote: »
    That was your choice to make. It doesn't entitle you to dictate to others on their life choices.

    You don't say. So I decided to have a surgeon run an angle grinder down my breast bone, flip out my heart, rip out my leg arteries and use them instead of the dead ones around my heart and put it back in and staple my chest closed and give me a few morphine tablets and away I go, two thirds lighter than I was.

    Recommended. Recommended.


  • #94
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    she is a good looking woman you have to wonder why she let herself get so hefty


  • #95
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    You don't say. So I decided to have a surgeon run an angle grinder down my breast bone, flip out my heart, rip out my leg arteries and use them instead of the dead ones around my heart and put it back in and staple my chest closed and give me a few morphine tablets and away I go, two thirds lighter than I was.

    Recommended. Recommended.

    Well, using the same logic some people are using in this thread, yes you did make that choice.


  • #96
    Pumpkinseeds
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

    You don't say. So I decided to have a surgeon run an angle grinder down my breast bone, flip out my heart, rip out my leg arteries and use them instead of the dead ones around my heart and put it back in and staple my chest closed and give me a few morphine tablets and away I go, two thirds lighter than I was.

    Recommended. Recommended.
    My post was based on the presumption that your lifestyle choices led to you having a triple bypass. If that is the case then I'm right and I don't really see how you feel a sarcastic response to my post is warranted.


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  • #97
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Well, using the same logic some people are using in this thread, yes you did make that choice.

    So, instead of some €6,000 of your taxes and follow up long term medication, maybe, just maybe if someone called me Obese, I might have chosen to do the exercise instead.

    Actually I argued exactly that with the surgeons, no one WANTS a hole in their chest.


  • #98
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    I'm right and I don't really see how you feel a sarcastic response to my post is warranted.

    It's not sarcastic, it was bluntly factual. I have the scars and can prove it.


  • #99
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    So, instead of some €6,000 of your taxes and follow up long term medication, maybe, just maybe if someone called me Obese, I might have chosen to do the exercise instead.

    Or maybe you're so humiliated you fall into a deep depression and decide to hang yourself?

    What ifs are great aren't they?


  • #100
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Or maybe you're so humiliated you fall into a deep depression and decide to hang yourself?

    What ifs are great aren't they?

    Life is just that. Men especially are exceedingly vulnerable. Fact is obesity is a scurge and must be eliminated. We will suffer casualties along the way, I was very, very lucky, so far. Don't think the thought never crossed the mind.


  • #101
    mathie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Once again you're ignoring my question. Why is it okay for me to walk up to a stranger and privately tell them that they're obese and should lose weight?

    Stop sidestepping the question.

    When that obesity is killing the person.


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  • #102
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    mathie wrote: »
    When that obesity is killing the person.

    So how often do you do it? With all the obese people around, the smokers, the drinkers. There must not be enough time in the day for you and your crusade against ill health?

    Forgive me, but I think you're full of shít.


  • #103
    GenieOz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭GenieOz


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    So how often do you do it? With all the obese people around, the smokers, the drinkers. There must not be enough time in the day for you and your crusade against ill health?

    Forgive me, but I think you're full of shít.

    That's why it's ok. Not the frequency in which it's done.


  • #104
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    GenieOz wrote: »
    That's why it's ok. Not the frequency in which it's done.
    What?


  • #105
    GenieOz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭GenieOz


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    What?

    He was saying that's when it's ok to say it to them.
    I don't see what him going up to everyone has to do with anything at all, he didn't state that he goes up to everyone whose health is being damaged.


  • #106
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Gluttony


  • #107
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GenieOz wrote: »
    That's why it's ok. Not the frequency in which it's done.


    Do you have a quiet word with drinkers and smokers too? People who drive badly? People who are slim, but like mayonnaise? People who eat more than three portions of red meat a week? Where is your personal line?

    Is your concern limited to obesity?


  • #108
    mathie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    GenieOz wrote: »
    He was saying that's when it's ok to say it to them.
    I don't see what him going up to everyone has to do with anything at all, he didn't state that he goes up to everyone whose health is being damaged.

    Exactly this.
    MagicMarker wrote: »
    So how often do you do it? With all the obese people around, the smokers, the drinkers. There must not be enough time in the day for you and your crusade against ill health?

    Forgive me, but I think you're full of shít.

    Straw man argument.

    But I won't resort to insults.


  • #109
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Bullying is bad m'kay... And if you're bullying someone, then you're bad m'kay?

    /ThreadPls


  • #110
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    GenieOz wrote: »
    He was saying that's when it's ok to say it to them.
    I don't see what him going up to everyone has to do with anything at all, he didn't state that he goes up to everyone whose health is being damaged.
    Well it sounds like from his posts people have a moral obligation to tell an obese person that they're obese and that they should do something about it. He doesn't think people should "stand idly by" while these people are putting their lives at risk. All I'm asking is how often he's told a total stranger, for the good of their health, to lose weight without having been asked for his opinion. I'm going to go ahead and take a wild guess and say he's done it a total of zero times.


  • #111
    Pumpkinseeds
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    It's not sarcastic, it was bluntly factual. I have the scars and can prove it.
    Again, those scars are a result of your lifestyle choices and it doesn't entitle you to dictate how others should live their lives and whether or not they should do a job they are qualified to do because you don't think they have the right physique.


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  • #112
    GenieOz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭GenieOz


    Candie wrote: »
    Do you have a quiet word with drinkers and smokers too? People who drive badly? People who are slim, but like mayonnaise? People who eat more than three portions of red meat a week? Where is your personal line?

    Is your concern limited to obesity?

    I don't do any of those, not sure why you're asking me that.

    Actually that's a lie, I do speak with bad drivers.


  • #113
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    LizzieJones wrote: »
    Some folks have medical conditions that make it super easy to gain weight. I'm one of those people. I've got poly-cystic ovarian syndrome and my weight gain started when I hit 11 years old. Anything that turns to sugar becomes fat in my body. A low carb diet helps but I'm a turtle when it comes to weight loss. I'm lucky if I can lose a half pound a week.
    PCOS in a helluva lot of cases is related to insulin resistance. Insulin resistance is a mix of environment and a genetic predisposition, however given a couple of generations ago it was significantly rarer, genetic predisposition is the lesser. Rates of type 1 diabetes are going up, rates of type 2 are rocketing. I'd go further and label a suite of illnesses such as PCOS and some forms of dementia* both of which are on the rise as Type 3 diabetes. I'll bet the house that that list will grow and I'll further bet it'll equal or even surpass the dangers of tobacco as a public health issue.
    Candie wrote: »
    Do you have a quiet word with drinkers and smokers too? People who drive badly? People who are slim, but like mayonnaise? People who eat more than three portions of red meat a week? Where is your personal line?

    Is your concern limited to obesity?
    Whatever about a "quiet word" face to face(as most people are public cowards even if they believe in such things strongly), hardly a day goes by without someone on the interweb in forums like this or in the general media whinging on about smokers, drinkers, bad drivers etc. Smoking in particular drives the whinging classes into lathers of self satisfied sweat as they scramble to out puritan each other. Drinking isn't far behind. Skinny people, especially skinny women are regularly enough hit with a disparaging "oohhh don't you think she's a bit thin", usually by other overupholstered women and sometimes men. "Real women have curves". Ehh GTeverlivingFO. If anything the "moral" gate guardians of the interweb give fat a free ride, particularly in the US. There's even the term "fat acceptance" FFS. Eh wut da fuq?





    *actually I'd add other forms like vascular dementia to the list as sugar in the blood does your cardiovascular system no good at all.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #114
    FullblownRose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    Her weight makes her saaassy!


  • #115
    Electric Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    GenieOz wrote: »
    Is your business being in the public eye and somewhat of a role model for others?
    Her job is to read the news, not to be a role model.


  • #116
    FullblownRose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    I think making personal comments whether or not you use a swear word to someone is out of order in most cases.


  • #117
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    FullblownRose wrote: »
    I think making personal comments whether or not you use a swear word to someone is out of order in most cases.


    Can you give an example where you might think it acceptable to make personal comments to someone?

    I sure can't.


  • #118
    FullblownRose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Can you give an example where you might think it acceptable to make personal comments to someone?

    I sure can't.

    No, it's not a nice thing to do.


  • #119
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Ok one 3rd of Americans are Obese/morbidly this is not due to.

    1. Disease
    2. Emotional issues
    3. Medical conditions
    4. Any other made up reason people can come up on here to defend their size.

    It is due to EATING to much and not burning the extra intake of calories off through exercise.

    Ireland is getting very close to this. People need to get a grip and stop defending peoples destructive lifestyles. People already complain about smokers/drinkers over running the hospitals. I think you will find the other top issue is people Being obese. It's not just destructive for the person it effects but it's seen now as acceptable to be that size. The average women's size in Ireland is 16 for example that's a hell of a bmi as women don't tend to be as tall as men. There is going to be an explosion of diabetes in the coming years and constant treatment/drugs are not cheap.

    I have looked through fast food restaurants windows and seen obese people feeding 2 obese kids and a obese baby in a highchair. Do you think this is acceptable ? A child in a highchair does not know any better and cant say no. Do you think feeding baby's Fry's and highly processed chicken nuggets is not doing it any harm.


  • #120
    professore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Ok one 3rd of Americans are Obese/morbidly this is not due to.

    1. Disease
    2. Emotional issues
    3. Medical conditions
    4. Any other made up reason people can come up on here to defend their size.

    It is due to EATING to much and not burning the extra intake of calories off through exercise.

    Ireland is getting very close to this. People need to get a grip and stop defending peoples destructive lifestyles. People already complain about smokers/drinkers over running the hospitals. I think you will find the other top issue is people Being obese. It's not just destructive for the person it effects but it's seen now as acceptable to be that size. The average women's size in Ireland is 16 for example that's a hell of a bmi as women don't tend to be as tall as men. There is going to be an explosion of diabetes in the coming years and constant treatment/drugs are not cheap.

    I have looked through fast food restaurants windows and seen obese people feeding 2 obese kids and a obese baby in a highchair. Do you think this is acceptable ? A child in a highchair does not know any better and cant say no. Do you think feeding baby's Fry's and highly processed chicken nuggets is not doing it any harm.

    I don't think anyone's arguing against this point. The point is should you tell a complete stranger they need to lose weight? I don't think so.


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  • #121
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Do you think feeding baby's Fry's and highly processed chicken nuggets is not doing it any harm.

    And whilst we think banning fast food within 5k of a school is a joke, we ain't seen nothing yet.

    We are banning smoking and we will soon be banning feeding, essentially poison.

    But we must also realise that the person doing the feeding does not see the harm, the person overweight, does not see it, the person smoking is doubly effected as she does not see it and is addicted to additional stimulants.


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