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Cosmetic Surgery - The Human Barbie

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    You should! It would make an interesting conversation!

    "How did you two meet?"

    "Funny story, it involves a Russian girl having surgery to look like a Barbie doll, and a complaint about the difficulties containing my heaving bosom."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    I have no problem containing them. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Should I rush out and buy a hat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    You certainly won't if you allow "You Took My Name" to help you :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Should I rush out and buy a hat?

    Nah. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,360 ✭✭✭YouTookMyName


    No, thanks. :)

    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    Tuck your head between your soft fluffy substitution pillows my friend, and cry away the bitter tears!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Cian92


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Not jealous at all. Don't see the point in plastic surgery for aesthetic purposes really. A healthy eating plan and proper exercise is much better than pumping your body with silicone and the like. Not to mention the possible dangers incurred with cosmetic surgery.

    Yep, you're on the ball.

    Sure when the cosmetic surgery goes wrong, they will be looking for the tax payer to foot the bill. Just like those dodgy breast implants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    I have no problem containing them. :)



    I have a friend here with extremely large breasts. She gets terrible back pain with them now and then and used to hate them for that reason but in the last few years, she's really grown to love them and has managed to find a shop that sells bras bigger than a C cup here that aren't total granny bras (difficult in Spain). They're mesmerising. Her fella is mad about them for obvious reasons.

    Breast reduction is actually available under the public healthcare here but she decided against it in the end. I would understand completely if she decided to go for it though (for the discomfort they can cause her).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Jonny Blaze


    :(

    Aww! Forever Alone! :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    All he wanted was a tall ship and a star to sail her by!

    And Green Screen and her twins ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    I have a friend here with extremely large breasts.

    There is this fellow on here called YouTookMyName...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    I just think its a strange culturally normalised view that you should be expected to excise so called 'imperfections' and that no one should bat an eye at it.

    The fact that it's almost a perverse inversion of what we tell people with say, eating disorders or as I mentioned before, people who self harm due to mental health issues.

    These people are told that what they chose to do to themselves is harmful and that they should seek help to deal with the emotional issues that are the root cause of their destructive behaviours, whereas people with supposed physical imperfections are fully encouraged to just go and have a doctor and have potentially dangerous surgery to solve the problem, rather than being encouraged to deal with what I would surmise as being similar atypical emotional issues that are the root cause of their dissatisfaction with their appearance.


    I think now Johnny you know better than that very simplistic point of view. People are of course free to choose where they choose to have elective cosmetic surgery done, and most consultations will start by having a full psychological profile of the patient done long before they ever even so much as see the inside of an operating theatre. I say "most", because the cosmetic surgery industry is unregulated in some countries where it's cheaper to have procedures done by cutting corners.

    After a psychological profile is done, the consultant may recommend to the patient that they may be unsuitable for surgery and may indeed suggest counseling. The more reputable clinics will anyway.

    I know you mentioned people having cosmetic surgery to pin back their ears earlier, and I would be one of those people who has long given thought to the idea of having my ears pinned back. I don't have any self esteem or psychological issues related to my physical appearance such as BDD (though there was a point in my life a few years ago where because I have a gammy hip, my right leg is effectively permanently a dead leg, and the constant pain almost drove me to the point where I considered a rope and a hacksaw because it was either my mind or the leg - one of them had to go! Fortunately I came to my senses before I went through with it), but where my ears are concerned, I was never bullied about them or any of the typical reasons you'll hear.

    I was just never comfortable with them, and the only reason I haven't gotten them done yet is because after a consultation when I went about getting them done, the consultant first of all disagreed that I needed the procedure done, and second of all I wasn't comfortable with the idea that he couldn't guarantee the results would be what I expected.

    My friends who have had cosmetic procedures done, the results have been positive for the most part, and I've seen a tremendous confidence boost in them and their outlook on life is much more positive, but unless I plan on breast augmentation any time soon, their experience isn't really going to affect my decision to have my ears done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    If I could afford it I'd ask a plastic surgeon to make me look like Optimus Prime. Then when people asked if I had gotten plastic surgery I'd lie and say "no I just naturally look like a robot that transforms into a truck".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Jonny Blaze


    Wow really sorry to hear about your difficulties Czarcasm, and im glad you are you doing well now!

    In the bolded part of my post you pointed out, I just want to make it clear that when I said people are 'encouraged' to go out and get surgery, I wasn't referring to them being encouraged by the surgical staff. What I meant was that it is seen as totally acceptable and that a lot of people would be of the mindset of several posters on this thread earlier who will not see any harm with the decision as it their bodies etc.

    At the end of the day it is, as you say completely a matter of choice for any individual. I'm not trying to convince anyone that they should reject their beliefs in favour of my own. Im pretty much trying to explain my own point of view as to why i personally don't agree with the rationale behind it.

    Also I totally agree that you do hear a lot of anecdotal evidence of positive results and confidence benefits that are achieved as a result of getting a surgery. I acknowledged as much in the op and as I say, im not really disputing the fact that these people have benefited from their surgeries. Again, im simply explaining how I feel about it and perhaps challenging the positions of others in order to stimulate a debate.

    Someone earlier asked why vanity is seen as such a bad thing and I honestly conceded the point as I have no problem admitting the mutability and fallibility of my own beliefs.

    I guess I just lament the fact that people would feel the need to have these procedures as it seems to me to be very much a negative, self critical impulse that drives the decision. I would much rather that the kind of support that you received, and which helped you reach the decision not to have the surgery and accept yourself, was the more prevalent attitude to this issue in general.

    Thanks for the thoughtful post anyway and I hope i didn't cause any offense with the example I gave before regarding ear surgery as it wasnt my intent!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Thanks for the thoughtful post anyway and I hope i didn't cause any offense with the example I gave before regarding ear surgery as it wasnt my intent!


    Ahh Christ no, not at all Johnny, tbh I'd take the "to each their own" point of view with a pinch of salt, or those that would even encourage anyone to have elective cosmetic surgery, I wouldn't be able to take them seriously either. It's a fairly in depth process, and results as they say, indeed they do vary. Then it just becomes a matter of does the risk involved in having cosmetic surgery done, outweigh the mental frustration caused by the issue.

    Anyone who says "to each their own" at that point clearly doesn't care about the person, or they wouldn't be so blasé about the isssue.

    As for the girl in the OP, well, attention seekers will always get attention, however fleeting, and now thanks to the Internet, that "15 minutes of fame" is more like 5 seconds of fame. Haven't heard from Pamela Anderson in a few years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    I have a friend here with extremely large breasts. She gets terrible back pain with them now and then and used to hate them for that reason but in the last few years, she's really grown to love them and has managed to find a shop that sells bras bigger than a C cup here that aren't total granny bras (difficult in Spain). They're mesmerising. Her fella is mad about them for obvious reasons.

    Breast reduction is actually available under the public healthcare here but she decided against it in the end. I would understand completely if she decided to go for it though (for the discomfort they can cause her).

    That's pretty much what happened with me. Until I started working in my teens, all I could afford were gross support bras. That, combined with the back pain made me hate them.

    Now, in all my lovely, pretty bras, i love them. They look awesome in and out of clothes, and my bf is in awe of them :pac:

    That's not to say that I may not consider a reduction in thr future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Jonny Blaze


    Ha ha! Yeah this is the attitude I find to be of concern alright. It also seems to be thought of as being such a simple procedure that people considering it get a skewed view of the facts.

    Also, the prevalence of so many celebrities going under the knife would, i would imagine, at least indirectly influence people into thinking its a common routine thing, and safer than it might be.

    Also, Pamela Anderson, Lol! ;)


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