Kurt Cobain died 20 years ago today

RDM_83 again wrote: »

It doesn't necessarily stop it being true though even if its a nasty thing to say, I like Nirvana but even as a teenager I never really got the obsession and emotional connection thing some people (particularly girls it) seemed to get about Cobain (and I was a teenager after he died)

Look at Alice in Chains if Layne Staley had died had 10 years earlier we would probably see a similar buzz about Facelift and Dirt but I suppose he didn't have the look either.

Staley and AIC topped their Unplugged anyway, sublime performance from a band who hadn't played together in over a year. It regularly tops polls for best concert in the MTV unplugged series.

I definitely wouldn't put Placebo or Silverchair in the same league as Nirvana (I think a significant part of why he's such a big deal is that they were a: a really ****ing good band and b: very much captured a moment), but the Morrissey comparison is a good one, or imagine if Mick Jagger had died at 27. Hell, if Courtney had died in the year or two after he did she'd probably have a completely different and much more complimentary cultural significance, they'd be some kind of grunge Romeo and Juliet.

Probably worth pointing out that Nevermind shifted 8 million copies long before Cobain topped himself. Around 1992 you couldn't listen to the radio for five minutes without teen spirit being played.

The likes of AIC, Soundgarden or Pearl Jam weren't selling that much until Nirvana kicked the mainstream door in for the rest to follow. If anything AIC and Soundgarden were considered to be metal bands until "grunge" became marketable.

dudara wrote: »

His passing is still a source of sadness. He was *hot* in an era of grunge looking guys but more than that, he articulated something that most of us couldn't express. Suicide theories aside, he just wasn't able for the world.

Was 21 when he died. Big fan. Don"t give me this not able for this world bull**** like he was some ****ing angel. save it for facebook. he was a talented man with depression and a drug habit.

MagicMarker wrote: »

I obviously didn't mean that he killed himself for the sake of his career, that would be kind of stupid. But it's obvious he wouldn't have the status he does have now had he not killed himself.



That says all there needs to be said about you then, doesn't it?

I agree with the point that you are trying to make. You just went about it in an abrasive manner and along with uber sensitive people, the reaction you got was inevitable.

Legendary band now. They are up there with the rest at the top. Still listen to them today and id also be a fan of the foo fighters. Kurt was talented and sadly damaged.

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Major case of the lady protesting too much. They always seem to be the same people who wet their pants over tiny stuff.

Quite the circle jerk.

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Why are they "uber sensitive"? This is suicide he was talking about; it's an emotive subject - it's not running out of teabags.

Every time people go on about people being uber sensitive, I can't help thinking they're projecting.

Why are they uber sensitive? Well lets see.

MagicMarker makes a valid point.
A poster responds by saying they would spit at MagicMarker in real life for having an opinion. You are also making out that I am trivializing suicide which I wasn't.

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJGl0FQK9Ew

I literally fought my way out of that crowd. Was a biig Nirvana fan in 90 and 91. Was all hyped up for that headline spot and it was ruined by Loaded-reading lad types constantly shouting for Teen Spirit and acting like complete spas. The crowd was not cool like previous Nirvana gigs and the band's performance suffered for it. I didn't buy In Utero or bother going to see them live again because I just stopped being into them that night.

I read about Kurt's death in the music press and watched the news reports but didn't get the public outpouring of grief that many felt the need for. I thought then, and to a certain extent, still do now that Kurt's suicide was another bandwagon for the masses to latch onto. It created a troubled, pitiful figurehead for the disaffected miseries who were looking to validate their depressed, introspective, angst filled pretend lives before they went onto college and comfortable jobs.

Life carried on and towards the end of the year Unplugged came on MTV and I sat there watching it with my girlfriend and band mates with tears streaming down my face. When my entire music collection was robbed in 98, Unplugged was the first cd I replaced. Still find it hard to listen to now but still have never listened to In Utero. I smile to myself when I see teenagers these days wearing either version of the smilie t-shirt under their army surplus gear. I can't help thinking the mass adulation was what put him in a box and now 20 years on he still can't get away from it. RIP I suppose.