Aventador Crash - Moment of Impact

dantastic · 01-04-2014 01:51PM

Some fella on reddit has done the maths and it would suggest the lambo is doing somewhere around 30mph

using different reference points getting 23mph, 31mph & 38mph

http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/21vkm1/the_moment_an_aventador_lp7004_crashes_in_london/cgh6kjk

corktina · 01-04-2014 01:53PM

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lamborghini-crash--aventador-west-london-smash-caught-on-camera-123500659.html#v8U5nxh

A different view from the speed kings on here...

He said: 'I got a call to say someone had reported the Lamborghini crash on Sloane Street, and had heard this particular Aventador had been racing all day."

"Minutes before the smash, the matte black motor - with the expensive plate A4AAA - was filmed being driven aggressively by its owner"

Tea 1000 · 01-04-2014 01:56PM

Caliden wrote: »

You can't judge speed by sound. It's a 6.5litre v12 with 700hp, that thing would be loud going 10mph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ1DDIwhw4M

Shure jaysus lads he's flying it with the sound out of it

It's not the sound that matters, it's the pitch.

ironclaw · 01-04-2014 02:01PM

I figure, and this is complete rough work, the car travels 1m in 4 video frames. So at 30 frames per second, thats 7.5m per second or 27km/h. Remembering that is after they had seen the car pulling out so they would have been braking. 0 to 100km/h in the Aventador is 2.8s, and can brake almost as fast.

So they weren't speeding and could easily have been seen by the Mazda, at least in my opinion.

REXER · 01-04-2014 02:01PM

corktina wrote: »

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lamborghini-crash--aventador-west-london-smash-caught-on-camera-123500659.html#v8U5nxh

A different view from the speed kings on here...

He said: 'I got a call to say someone had reported the Lamborghini crash on Sloane Street, and had heard this particular Aventador had been racing all day."

"Minutes before the smash, the matte black motor - with the expensive plate A4AAA - was filmed being driven aggressively by its owner"

Sure, the car looks too fast!

jimgoose · 01-04-2014 02:04PM

Aventador man going a bit lively, I'd say. Still shouldn't have pulled out when he did, though. The Lambo appeared to have a lot of carbon fiber bodywork - properly expensive tip if so. :eek:

K.Flyer · 01-04-2014 02:09PM

There is a very simple point, but an important one being overlooked.
The road that the Mazda pulls out from has a very clear YIELD sign.
This TELLS the Mazda driver to give way to the drivers on the road he is joining.
He failed to do this and so he made the bad judgement call.

corktina · 01-04-2014 02:17PM

Yes but that's why you don't fly about at 30 mph in a busy high street full of mazdas, buses cyclists and pedestrians.

They don't use Yield signs in the UK

01-04-2014 02:29PM

corktina wrote: »

Yes but that's why you don't fly about at 30 mph in a busy high street full of mazdas, buses cyclists and pedestrians.

They don't use Yield signs in the UK

If the Mazda doesn't drive in front of the Lamborghini then the crash does not happen, it is therefore the Mazdas fault 100%.

GreeBo · 01-04-2014 02:38PM

Legend Ugly Passport wrote: »

The car leaving the ground is a very poor indication of his speed, the front of a Lamborghini is very light as its engine is in the rear and its also has a very different body shape to a normal car. All you need is for the two cars to meet in a certain way and it will lift it off the ground even at slow speed.

If he was travelling very fast the crash would have been much worse. The airbags didn't even deploy in the Lamborghini.

EDIT: Looking at the video again, the reason the Lamborghini launched was that it connected with the wheel of the mazda which was sticking out due to turning. The rotation of the wheel would have the effect of launching the Lamborghini.

Look at the still of the video before you play it, at that point at least 3 wheels are off the ground,a good distance after it made contact with the mazda.

The airbags didnt deploy but the crash was bad enough to split the rad, I'd be asking some safety questions there.

dantastic · 01-04-2014 02:41PM

Jaysys! Flying around at 30 like that!

Marcusm · 01-04-2014 02:41PM

corktina wrote: »

Yes but that's why you don't fly about at 30 mph in a busy high street full of mazdas, buses cyclists and pedestrians.

They don't use Yield signs in the UK

You're right, almost never used, the double dash line is the equivalent for UK use.

GreeBo · 01-04-2014 02:42PM

unkel wrote: »

You're thinking of this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQKlyi_49gA

People talk of physics 101 but yet cant see the difference between a car rolling over after attempting to climb a wall and a car bouncing 4 wheels into the air during a crash?

GreeBo · 01-04-2014 02:45PM

MarkR wrote: »

How on god's green earth the flying spaghetti monsters's great noodly appendage does that make it 50/50?

because he was travelling too fast to react to someone crawling out from a junction in the middle of the city centre?

GreeBo · 01-04-2014 02:47PM

ironclaw wrote: »

I figure, and this is complete rough work, the car travels 1m in 4 video frames. So at 30 frames per second, thats 7.5m per second or 27km/h. Remembering that is after they had seen the car pulling out so they would have been braking. 0 to 100km/h in the Aventador is 2.8s, and can brake almost as fast.

So they weren't speeding and could easily have been seen by the Mazda, at least in my opinion.

They could easily have seen the Mazda then as they Mazda would have to pull into the road before they could see.
If all the above is true, why didnt he just stop?
Whats the Lambos 30-0 time/distance?

dantastic · 01-04-2014 02:50PM

But why is it the Lambo's responsibility to stop? Why can't you afford the Mazda driver the same responsibility? Why was the Mazda not driving too fast? Or did the Mazda have right of way?

corktina · 01-04-2014 02:50PM

dantastic wrote: »

Jaysys! Flying around at 30 like that!

you don't think 30 mph is too fast in the middle of a busy London street?

jimgoose · 01-04-2014 02:51PM

unkel wrote: »

You're thinking of this one? ...

I love that video so much. I swear to Cheeses I will never tire of it as long as I shall live. It is beautiful, it is a work of high Art. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!! :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

K.Flyer · 01-04-2014 02:52PM

corktina wrote: »

They don't use Yield signs in the UK

Marcusm wrote: »

You're right, almost never used, the double dash line is the equivalent for UK use.

There is a Yield triangle painted on the road that the Mazda pulls out off.
Its clearly visible behind the car at 0.06 seconds.

ironclaw · 01-04-2014 02:52PM

GreeBo wrote: »

They could easily have seen the Mazda then as they Mazda would have to pull into the road before they could see.
If all the above is true, why didnt he just stop?
Whats the Lambos 30-0 time/distance?

I said, the Mazda could have easily seen them. However, the Mazda should have stopped. The Lambo has right of way. Doesn't matter what is stopping time is really. The onus was not on them to stop.

dantastic · 01-04-2014 02:54PM

When wheels connect cars fly. Chinese proverb...

corktina · 01-04-2014 02:54PM

You are supposed to be able to stop in an emergency..he couldn't ergo: too fast for the road conditions.

corktina · 01-04-2014 02:55PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

There is a Yield triangle painted on the road that the Mazda pulls out off.
Its clearly visible behind the car at 0.06 seconds.

My tongue was firmly in my cheek. They don't use YIELD signs in the UK. They use GIVE WAY

01-04-2014 02:59PM

corktina wrote: »

You are supposed to be able to stop in an emergency..he couldn't ergo: too fast for the road conditions.

But there is no way people would be able to stop in a lot of emergency situations, in my opinion that mazda appeared in front of him and unless he was going completely impractically slow then he couldn't have stopped.

If a person is driving down a straight road at 100km/h and someone drives out in right in front of them would you go around claiming that the person on the main road was driving too fast for as they couldn't stop in an emergency? Its a ridiculous way of thinking.

The mazda is 100% at fault he should not have driven out simple as that.

Its totally different to driving along behind a car etc where you have to judge your speed, stopping distance etc as they are on the same road and in your full view etc.

K.Flyer · 01-04-2014 03:01PM

corktina wrote: »

My tongue was firmly in my cheek. They don't use YIELD signs in the UK. They use GIVE WAY

I was just about to amend my last post as I remembered that the wording is different (but still has the same meaning

)

blingrhino · 01-04-2014 03:03PM

While 95% agree that the Mazda was at fault - was the fact that a Maserati was "following" him an influence.?

Soarer · 01-04-2014 03:06PM

blingrhino wrote: »

While 95% agree that the Mazda was at fault - was the fact that a Maserati was "following" him an influence.?

Like he was being chased by a hitman?

MarkR · 01-04-2014 03:10PM

GreeBo wrote: »

because he was travelling too fast to react to someone crawling out from a junction in the middle of the city centre?

Who says he was too fast? Walking pace is too fast is someone steps out in front of you. There is nothing currently out there to show that the lambo was speeding. The way the car looks, or the noise it makes does not mean it was speeding. In that absence, you're left with the rules of the road. The mazda pulled out in front of the lambo.

BMJD · 01-04-2014 03:24PM

guttenberg wrote: »

was the Mazda driver the fella in red, who ran to check on the blonde passenger but didn't seem to care about the male driver?

it's a LHD so maybe that's why

or maybe he prefers blondes

Truckermal · 01-04-2014 03:28PM

I could bet you that if the Lambo was a normal family car everyone would say its the Mazdas fault and that would be the end of it.

Aventador Crash - Moment of Impact

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