Amnesty for the 30,000 illegals in Ireland

Esho · 19-03-2014 01:30PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Thats exactly why I support MRCIs earned regularisation scheme

Likewise.

steddyeddy · 19-03-2014 01:31PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

There was a FG guy and someone from the Immigrants Council of Ireland on the Vincent Browne show last night proposing this idea.

They maintain it will get all party support, but it seems to me to be giving a reward to people who broke the law.

Any views on this?

Case by case basis Imo. Not a blanket amnesty without knowing the facts.

goose2005 · 19-03-2014 03:52PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

The 30,000 undocumented surely?

Can we do the same for other crimes? Bank robberies become undocumented withdrawals. Smuggling is undocumented imports.

end of the road · 19-03-2014 07:45PM

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

That's life. No reason Australia should have to put up with him.

of course they should, he has children, and australia was built on convicts, he'd only be continuing the tradition

end of the road · 19-03-2014 07:49PM

miss no stars wrote: »

I think it's wrong to just allow people who are here illegally to remain here. Same goes for Irish people living illegally elsewhere in the world.

Why? They broke the law. They're criminals. If they were fleeing from something genuine they'd have been granted assylum. Like, let's all welcome criminals into the country with open arms? Wtf?! I've no problem with immigration provided those who come here are willing to work and contribute and will fit in with Ireland and our way of life, as well as bringing some of their culture and traditions with them. I think the country is better off for having those people here. But people who are here illegally? Fcuk off.

Edit: just saw the link in the post above... Not so bad as an outright amnesty tbh. I would like to see the requirements include something like passing a background check (no criminal convictions with a sentence over a year as with the ozzies) and that they entered the country in a legal manner and can provide proof of such (i.e. have a stamp in their passport but remained beyond their intended "holiday")

shur coming to a country illegally is only a tiny crime, nothing to bother about, its the other convictions some may have that are the issue

end of the road · 19-03-2014 07:53PM

miss no stars wrote: »

There has to be some sort of a sting to breaking the law

not at all, to much work involved

miss no stars wrote: »

a small fine isn't good enough.

its grand, it will do

end of the road · 19-03-2014 08:02PM

hfallada wrote: »

There is no comparison between Irish illegals in the US and illegals living in Ireland.

technically no their isn't, either way its irrelevant, an illegal immigrant is an illegal immigrant

hfallada wrote: »

Irish illegals have been in the us for years and some since 1980s. They probably went as most of their family was in the us. They have built families in the us and have integrated into us life.

makes no difference

hfallada wrote: »

illegals living in Ireland came here in the last couple of years on their own. They have no families here. They have no connection to Ireland at all. They haven't integrated into Irish life in anyway

no evidence for any of that unless you have surveyed every immigrant who has come here which i suspect you haven't

The Aussie · 19-03-2014 08:04PM

end of the road wrote: »

of course they should, he has children, and australia was built on convicts, he'd only be continuing the tradition

Yeh, but the whole kicking a young man into a Blind Vegative state (a condition the victim is still in today, 12 years later) with a group of friends/scum behind him only a few months after beating and kicking another bloke, of course with his mates/scum behind him again, not to mention the Woman Beating, I'm afraid this squat headed coward is Ireland's problem and not another unsuspecting country, it's a pity I will have to share the same city as this Human Skidmark that is Ian Cronin....

crockholm · 19-03-2014 08:48PM

These people, whether they be Irish in Boston or Somali's in Cork deserve nothing else but to be turfed out for being the criminals that they are.If they Believe that they have the right to break Another country's law on a personal whim then such people would be no loss at all,were they rightfully booted out.

end of the road · 19-03-2014 09:05PM

The Aussie wrote: »

Yeh, but the whole kicking a young man into a Blind Vegative state (a condition the victim is still in today, 12 years later) with a group of friends/scum behind him only a few months after beating and kicking another bloke, of course with his mates/scum behind him again, not to mention the Woman Beating, I'm afraid this squat headed coward is Ireland's problem and not another unsuspecting country, it's a pity I will have to share the same city as this Human Skidmark that is Ian Cronin....

its not our problem, we don't want him back, he's been transported now so your problem

The Aussie · 19-03-2014 09:12PM

end of the road wrote: »

its not our problem.

Due to ministerial intervention, he most certainly will be Ireland's problem again.

end of the road wrote: »

we don't want him back.

And I don't want to go to work tomorrow, sometimes things happen we don't like.

end of the road wrote: »

he's been transported now so your problem

He is about to be Boomeranged right on back to whence he came, sort of like a purchase that turned out to be Shoite and like most Shoite you return it...

Gatling · 19-03-2014 09:41PM

So they want to give amnesty to 30+ 000 illegal immigrants,

Which in turns will potentially add 60+ 000 to the social welfare system when all these illegals bring the parents and grand parents to retire here ,
And most likely another 30+ 000 to the social housing list

Sure there's plenty for everyone to go around ,

Electric Sheep · 19-03-2014 09:44PM

Gatling wrote: »

So they want to give amnesty to 30+ 000 illegal immigrants,

Which in turns will potentially add 60+ 000 to the social welfare system when all these illegals bring the parents and grand parents to retire here ,
And most likely another 30+ 000 to the social housing list

Sure there's plenty for everyone to go around ,

If they kick all the Irish illegals out of the USA there will be alot more than 60,000 to the social welfare system.

end of the road · 19-03-2014 09:50PM

The Aussie wrote: »

Due to ministerial intervention, he most certainly will be Ireland's problem again.

And I don't want to go to work tomorrow, sometimes things happen we don't like.

He is about to be Boomeranged right on back to whence he came, sort of like a purchase that turned out to be Shoite and like most Shoite you return it...

we'l Boomerang him back again, as i said we don't want him

The Aussie · 19-03-2014 09:59PM

end of the road wrote: »

we'l Boomerang him back again, as i said we don't want him

He will incur a 3 year exclusion and his passport will be flagged, so his best bet will be waiting out the 3 years and hope for a change in government then hope the Labour Immigration Minister will be more sympathetic to the plight of a squat headed, gap toothed, gang bashing, woman beating coward....

I know you don't want him here, I don't want him here, but sadly it does not matter what we think.

Gatling · 19-03-2014 10:05PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

If they kick all the Irish illegals out of the USA there will be alot more than 60,000 to the social welfare system.

Big difference all right

Big difference between people living in a lot of cases 30+ years with families ,

We've 30 + 000 in a few years not exactly the same beside the undocumented Irish in america probably the support of the 30+ million Irish Americans ,

sillyoulfool · 19-03-2014 10:10PM

Gatling wrote: »

Big difference all right

Big difference between people living in a lot of cases 30+ years with families ,

We've 30 + 000 in a few years not exactly the same beside the undocumented Irish in america probably the support of the 30+ million Irish Americans ,

So its a case of our illegals in USA are decent hard working people, but dem forrin illegals here are pure criminal.:rolleyes:
Oh the irony.

Femme_Fatale · 19-03-2014 10:10PM

hfallada wrote: »

But illegals living in Ireland came here in the last couple of years on their own. They have no families here. They have no connection to Ireland at all. They haven't integrated into Irish life in anyway

conorhal wrote: »

Then why do so many new citizens turn up at the pasport office without sufficient documentation to apply for one?

Just wondering how ye know any of the above.

Gatling · 19-03-2014 10:13PM

sillyoulfool wrote: »

So its a case of our illegals in USA are decent hard working people, but dem forrin illegals here are pure criminal.:rolleyes:
Oh the irony.

Of course they all are ,
Like the many generation before them who build and died for America

MadsL · 19-03-2014 10:15PM

biko wrote: »

Undocumented is a madey-up word so lefties can refer to illegals without saying "illegal".
You can also say "right-to-remain challenged".

There is some truth in the expression.

My wife lost her job (before we were married) went to INIS and was given six months to get another. She did and showed up one day before the expiry with job offer letter and work permit paperwork as submitted to the office above INIS.

The utter, utter cnut behind the counter claimed she had not gained a job in the timeframe and she would not get a work permit as "they have stopped issuing them" (not for her salary level they had not)

Long story short she had her right-to-remain revoked. We asked if she would be deported and they asked (with a straight face) "would you like us to?"

So - she was in fact undocumented despite a job offer and work permit in process.

Appeal process at the time was non-existent.

Electric Sheep · 19-03-2014 10:28PM

Gatling wrote: »

Of course they all are ,
Like the many generation before them who build and died for America

I live in the US and know plenty of undocumented Irish. While they are mostly working, as indeed are most americans, they are very far from all being decent people.

Monife · 19-03-2014 10:48PM

Gatling wrote: »

So they want to give amnesty to 30+ 000 illegal immigrants,

Which in turns will potentially add 60+ 000 to the social welfare system when all these illegals bring the parents and grand parents to retire here ,
And most likely another 30+ 000 to the social housing list

Sure there's plenty for everyone to go around ,

You clearly know nothing about the Irish immigration system.

Gatling · 20-03-2014 12:47AM

Monife wrote: »

You clearly know nothing about the Irish immigration system.

30 + 000 illegal individuals ,

What's exactly do we need to know

We've literally heard every sob story at this stage ,

Nodin · 20-03-2014 12:53AM

Gatling wrote: »

30 + 000 illegal individuals ,

What's exactly do we need to know

We've literally heard every sob story at this stage ,

I wish you wouldn't use the royal "we", because you're sure as fuck not speaking for me.

Gatling · 20-03-2014 12:56AM

Nodin wrote: »

I wish you wouldn't use the royal "we", because you're sure as fuck not speaking for me.

Ohhhh god

Ohhhh Allah

Ohhhh

Are you finished yet

Her comes another pamela story

Nodin · 20-03-2014 12:56AM

biko wrote: »

Undocumented is a madey-up word so lefties can refer to illegals without saying "illegal".
You can also say "right-to-remain challenged".

Amnesty for illegals often get support from left and right. From left because it's humane to let people get a chance at a better life than back home.
From the right because illegals are cheap labour, way cheaper than Irish.

...if there was an amnesty, they'd no longer be illegal.

Nodin · 20-03-2014 12:59AM

Gatling wrote: »

Ohhhh god

Ohhhh Allah

Ohhhh

Are you finished yet

Her comes another pamela story

By your "logic" we should lock up all Ireland because of Larry Murphy (or insert paedo/criminal of choice).

Not sure why you go straight from Amnesty for illegals to asylum seekers either. Your biases showing, I suppose.

Aongus Von Bismarck · 20-03-2014 01:03AM

Nodin wrote: »

...if there was an amnesty, they'd no longer be illegal.

...and if you gave amnesty to murderers and paedophiles, they'd no longer be criminals.

As Thatcher said back in the day, "Crime is crime is crime". There should be no amnesty. If these people were rejected asylum, or never applied for asylum and just came for a visit and never left they should be booted out and barred from re-entry.

Gatling · 20-03-2014 01:04AM

Nodin wrote: »

By your "logic" we should lock up all Ireland because of Larry Murphy (or insert paedo/criminal of choice).

Not sure why you go straight from Amnesty for illegals to asylum seekers either. Your biases showing, I suppose.

What are spouting on about ??????? Larry Murphy

What's this about asylum seekers ?????

You have read the title haven't you

Need some help

dd972 · 20-03-2014 01:05AM

That's sounds like one overworked Bird Sanctuary !

Amnesty for the 30,000 illegals in Ireland

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