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Amnesty for the 30,000 illegals in Ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Esho


    Thats exactly why I support MRCIs earned regularisation scheme
    Likewise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    There was a FG guy and someone from the Immigrants Council of Ireland on the Vincent Browne show last night proposing this idea.

    They maintain it will get all party support, but it seems to me to be giving a reward to people who broke the law.

    Any views on this?

    Case by case basis Imo. Not a blanket amnesty without knowing the facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    The 30,000 undocumented surely?

    Can we do the same for other crimes? Bank robberies become undocumented withdrawals. Smuggling is undocumented imports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    That's life. No reason Australia should have to put up with him.
    of course they should, he has children, and australia was built on convicts, he'd only be continuing the tradition

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    I think it's wrong to just allow people who are here illegally to remain here. Same goes for Irish people living illegally elsewhere in the world.

    Why? They broke the law. They're criminals. If they were fleeing from something genuine they'd have been granted assylum. Like, let's all welcome criminals into the country with open arms? Wtf?! I've no problem with immigration provided those who come here are willing to work and contribute and will fit in with Ireland and our way of life, as well as bringing some of their culture and traditions with them. I think the country is better off for having those people here. But people who are here illegally? Fcuk off.

    Edit: just saw the link in the post above... Not so bad as an outright amnesty tbh. I would like to see the requirements include something like passing a background check (no criminal convictions with a sentence over a year as with the ozzies) and that they entered the country in a legal manner and can provide proof of such (i.e. have a stamp in their passport but remained beyond their intended "holiday")
    shur coming to a country illegally is only a tiny crime, nothing to bother about, its the other convictions some may have that are the issue

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    There has to be some sort of a sting to breaking the law
    not at all, to much work involved
    a small fine isn't good enough.
    its grand, it will do

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    hfallada wrote: »
    There is no comparison between Irish illegals in the US and illegals living in Ireland.
    technically no their isn't, either way its irrelevant, an illegal immigrant is an illegal immigrant
    hfallada wrote: »
    Irish illegals have been in the us for years and some since 1980s. They probably went as most of their family was in the us. They have built families in the us and have integrated into us life.
    makes no difference
    hfallada wrote: »
    illegals living in Ireland came here in the last couple of years on their own. They have no families here. They have no connection to Ireland at all. They haven't integrated into Irish life in anyway
    no evidence for any of that unless you have surveyed every immigrant who has come here which i suspect you haven't

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    of course they should, he has children, and australia was built on convicts, he'd only be continuing the tradition

    Yeh, but the whole kicking a young man into a Blind Vegative state (a condition the victim is still in today, 12 years later) with a group of friends/scum behind him only a few months after beating and kicking another bloke, of course with his mates/scum behind him again, not to mention the Woman Beating, I'm afraid this squat headed coward is Ireland's problem and not another unsuspecting country, it's a pity I will have to share the same city as this Human Skidmark that is Ian Cronin....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    These people, whether they be Irish in Boston or Somali's in Cork deserve nothing else but to be turfed out for being the criminals that they are.If they Believe that they have the right to break Another country's law on a personal whim then such people would be no loss at all,were they rightfully booted out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    The Aussie wrote: »
    Yeh, but the whole kicking a young man into a Blind Vegative state (a condition the victim is still in today, 12 years later) with a group of friends/scum behind him only a few months after beating and kicking another bloke, of course with his mates/scum behind him again, not to mention the Woman Beating, I'm afraid this squat headed coward is Ireland's problem and not another unsuspecting country, it's a pity I will have to share the same city as this Human Skidmark that is Ian Cronin....
    its not our problem, we don't want him back, he's been transported now so your problem

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    its not our problem.

    Due to ministerial intervention, he most certainly will be Ireland's problem again.
    we don't want him back.

    And I don't want to go to work tomorrow, sometimes things happen we don't like.
    he's been transported now so your problem

    He is about to be Boomeranged right on back to whence he came, sort of like a purchase that turned out to be Shoite and like most Shoite you return it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    So they want to give amnesty to 30+ 000 illegal immigrants,

    Which in turns will potentially add 60+ 000 to the social welfare system when all these illegals bring the parents and grand parents to retire here ,
    And most likely another 30+ 000 to the social housing list

    Sure there's plenty for everyone to go around ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    Gatling wrote: »
    So they want to give amnesty to 30+ 000 illegal immigrants,

    Which in turns will potentially add 60+ 000 to the social welfare system when all these illegals bring the parents and grand parents to retire here ,
    And most likely another 30+ 000 to the social housing list

    Sure there's plenty for everyone to go around ,

    If they kick all the Irish illegals out of the USA there will be alot more than 60,000 to the social welfare system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    The Aussie wrote: »
    Due to ministerial intervention, he most certainly will be Ireland's problem again.



    And I don't want to go to work tomorrow, sometimes things happen we don't like.



    He is about to be Boomeranged right on back to whence he came, sort of like a purchase that turned out to be Shoite and like most Shoite you return it...
    we'l Boomerang him back again, as i said we don't want him

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    we'l Boomerang him back again, as i said we don't want him

    He will incur a 3 year exclusion and his passport will be flagged, so his best bet will be waiting out the 3 years and hope for a change in government then hope the Labour Immigration Minister will be more sympathetic to the plight of a squat headed, gap toothed, gang bashing, woman beating coward....

    I know you don't want him here, I don't want him here, but sadly it does not matter what we think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If they kick all the Irish illegals out of the USA there will be alot more than 60,000 to the social welfare system.

    Big difference all right

    Big difference between people living in a lot of cases 30+ years with families ,

    We've 30 + 000 in a few years not exactly the same beside the undocumented Irish in america probably the support of the 30+ million Irish Americans ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Gatling wrote: »
    Big difference all right

    Big difference between people living in a lot of cases 30+ years with families ,

    We've 30 + 000 in a few years not exactly the same beside the undocumented Irish in america probably the support of the 30+ million Irish Americans ,

    So its a case of our illegals in USA are decent hard working people, but dem forrin illegals here are pure criminal.:rolleyes:
    Oh the irony.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    hfallada wrote: »
    But illegals living in Ireland came here in the last couple of years on their own. They have no families here. They have no connection to Ireland at all. They haven't integrated into Irish life in anyway
    conorhal wrote: »
    Then why do so many new citizens turn up at the pasport office without sufficient documentation to apply for one?
    Just wondering how ye know any of the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    So its a case of our illegals in USA are decent hard working people, but dem forrin illegals here are pure criminal.:rolleyes:
    Oh the irony.

    Of course they all are ,
    Like the many generation before them who build and died for America


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    biko wrote: »
    Undocumented is a madey-up word so lefties can refer to illegals without saying "illegal".
    You can also say "right-to-remain challenged".

    There is some truth in the expression.

    My wife lost her job (before we were married) went to INIS and was given six months to get another. She did and showed up one day before the expiry with job offer letter and work permit paperwork as submitted to the office above INIS.

    The utter, utter cnut behind the counter claimed she had not gained a job in the timeframe and she would not get a work permit as "they have stopped issuing them" (not for her salary level they had not)

    Long story short she had her right-to-remain revoked. We asked if she would be deported and they asked (with a straight face) "would you like us to?"

    So - she was in fact undocumented despite a job offer and work permit in process.

    Appeal process at the time was non-existent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    Gatling wrote: »
    Of course they all are ,
    Like the many generation before them who build and died for America

    I live in the US and know plenty of undocumented Irish. While they are mostly working, as indeed are most americans, they are very far from all being decent people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    Gatling wrote: »
    So they want to give amnesty to 30+ 000 illegal immigrants,

    Which in turns will potentially add 60+ 000 to the social welfare system when all these illegals bring the parents and grand parents to retire here ,
    And most likely another 30+ 000 to the social housing list

    Sure there's plenty for everyone to go around ,

    You clearly know nothing about the Irish immigration system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Monife wrote: »
    You clearly know nothing about the Irish immigration system.

    30 + 000 illegal individuals ,

    What's exactly do we need to know


    We've literally heard every sob story at this stage ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Gatling wrote: »
    30 + 000 illegal individuals ,

    What's exactly do we need to know


    We've literally heard every sob story at this stage ,


    I wish you wouldn't use the royal "we", because you're sure as fuck not speaking for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Nodin wrote: »
    I wish you wouldn't use the royal "we", because you're sure as fuck not speaking for me.

    Ohhhh god

    Ohhhh Allah

    Ohhhh

    Are you finished yet

    Her comes another pamela story


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    biko wrote: »
    Undocumented is a madey-up word so lefties can refer to illegals without saying "illegal".
    You can also say "right-to-remain challenged".

    Amnesty for illegals often get support from left and right. From left because it's humane to let people get a chance at a better life than back home.
    From the right because illegals are cheap labour, way cheaper than Irish.


    ...if there was an amnesty, they'd no longer be illegal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Gatling wrote: »
    Ohhhh god

    Ohhhh Allah

    Ohhhh

    Are you finished yet

    Her comes another pamela story


    By your "logic" we should lock up all Ireland because of Larry Murphy (or insert paedo/criminal of choice).

    Not sure why you go straight from Amnesty for illegals to asylum seekers either. Your biases showing, I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Nodin wrote: »
    ...if there was an amnesty, they'd no longer be illegal.

    ...and if you gave amnesty to murderers and paedophiles, they'd no longer be criminals.

    As Thatcher said back in the day, "Crime is crime is crime". There should be no amnesty. If these people were rejected asylum, or never applied for asylum and just came for a visit and never left they should be booted out and barred from re-entry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Nodin wrote: »
    By your "logic" we should lock up all Ireland because of Larry Murphy (or insert paedo/criminal of choice).

    Not sure why you go straight from Amnesty for illegals to asylum seekers either. Your biases showing, I suppose.

    What are spouting on about ??????? Larry Murphy


    What's this about asylum seekers ?????


    You have read the title haven't you

    Need some help


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    That's sounds like one overworked Bird Sanctuary ! :D


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