Steorn revolution begins with "Get Real. Get Orbo"

LionelNashe wrote: »

This question is directed to anyone reading the thread who actually uses oscilloscopes in their work or research.

What is the significance of all the talk in the videos of the lack of counter-EMF/back-EMF? Is McCarthy claiming that this is the source of the extra energy, or is he pointing it out as being an anomaly?

Silly Scopes don't measure power.

They measure voltage. The voltage in an L-R circuit resonance is usually many times the applied voltage.


freewheel diode is a device used to short circuit back emf , used in a lot of switched mode power supplies.
if the circuit has something similar then no back emf

One definition of Q factor is it's the ratio of the energy stored divided by the energy lost per cycle ( multiplied by two PI ). Apply this definition to some perpetual motion machines and you can see that you can get a lot of energy out in a small time if you pump a small amount of energy in for a very long time previously, and if the resevoir of energy is big enough you can take it out many times before you notice the drop.


Orbo demos use batteries, most rechargable batteries have a flat discharge curve, besides it's hard to tell how much was in it before / after. IIRC they used a mobile phone in the demo, how many days does a normal phone battery last , how could you easily measure the amount of charge it got during a short demo ?

Deleted User wrote: »

heres yet another independent replication claiming over unity in an orbo configuration[

I wouldn't call them independent seeing as how they are selling magnets

(tip old hard drives have very strong magnets in them)

Am also a little wary of videos


The input voltage was 4 on an analog meter (which was not shown again !!!)
it's easy enough to wire up a field effect transistor as a constant current source ( just wire two of it's legs together )


LED 7.72 V ? bit confused unless he put 4 LED's in parallel in series with the other 5 in parallel OR he is burning half the voltage across a resistor (why would you do this to show efficiency ??)


Orbo still haven't shown a generator feeding itself so even if all this was true it means generators would need to be many times the size they are at present. The increased maintanance costs and interest you need to pay for the extra capital cost would eat in to the value of any free energy you could get. And that's before you pay for the licenses.

Am still mystified about people's belief in free energy. The sun provides us with solar, wind, wave, OTEC, tidal turbines and hydroelectric for free already. We can also get geothermal power for free too. The main reason we use fossil fuel instead is because of capital and maintainace costs.

Have orbo given a cost per installed KW or per KWhr ??

I've build crystal radios, power output is so low you need special earpiece to listen.

Superconductors can store current because a current will run forever. BUT there is a current density limit, you can only store so much current in a superconductor this together with the niggling difficulty of supplying a lot of energy to the heat pumps means we won't see energy stored in this way soon. (there are also the capital costs too, but the good news with superconductors is that volume and hence current increases faster than the surface area so you need less pumping )

Jumboman wrote: »

I wonder was it a scam from the beginning or did they actually believe it worked ?

Dangerous legal ground considering Ireland's liable laws.

In the end it falls down to semantics and weasel words.

Wireless power by ground wave is easy enough to do. Tesla was doing it. Also solar power is down to 50c/watt https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/Module-Costs-Dip-Below-50-Cents-Per-Watt-in-JinkoSolars-Strong-Q4