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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Is taking 10 vehicles (that we can see, could be more, I suppose) off the road not a bit of a silly reaction to that event? Surely it'd have been better to get a little tent set up and a doctor inside to assess people?

    Also, why bother having multiple ambulances if they can't respond to a multiple casualty incident? Just leave the one go back and forth to the hospital.

    And still six in hospital at the moment. So yes, a silly event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭5500


    With 25 casualties at first I'd say a major incident probably was called and a triage tent set up fairly quickly, personally I'd be thinking why only 10 vehicle's as opposed to 10 being overkill with it being an airborne chemical incident that there could have well been even more hurt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Isn't that kind of the point of a major incident plan,
    As soon as you know you have a major incident you go with the plan,
    No point in finding out the kids should have been in hospital an hour ago but are still at the pool cos it's chaos...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    Kub -
    Ever drive one ?

    Long time ago, before better spec (?) Transits / Sprinters came along. The HiAce reminds me of these entry level Chinese cheapo commercials . The modern EU stuff has all the bells and whistles along with multiple configuration options and special build options :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    foreign wrote: »
    How effective would a tent be in dealing with possible chemical burns or breathing difficulties? And the fact we have no responding doctors other than ecrr and wcrr.

    The having no responding doctors is an issue alright - but on the wider point - is there merit in what hes saying in having a doctor on scene assessing patients.

    Getting back to the having no responding doctors aside from the Cork ones - i think this is something which definitely merits been addressed.

    I understand that London has it set up with the air ambulance that the doctors are NHS funded (which would be like the HSE funding doctors over here).

    This is possibly something that could be looked into here more.

    Would be handy too - if the likes of GPs and local Nurses could be trained as pre hospital emergency responders - i always find the idea that an Ambulance crew could have to dash 40 mins to a scene - but theres a doctor in a surgery dealing with less urgent things* 10 mins down the road.

    Obviously of course the best solutions is to resource the Ambulance service properly - but that's the sort of thing that might be considered as a back up to a PROPERLY RESOURCED Ambulance service

    *i mean non life treatning stuff - like colds/sore troats etc


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    Old diesel wrote: »
    The having no responding doctors is an issue alright - but on the wider point - is there merit in what hes saying in having a doctor on scene assessing patients.

    Getting back to the having no responding doctors aside from the Cork ones - i think this is something which definitely merits been addressed.

    I understand that London has it set up with the air ambulance that the doctors are NHS funded (which would be like the HSE funding doctors over here).

    This is possibly something that could be looked into here more.

    Would be handy too - if the likes of GPs and local Nurses could be trained as pre hospital emergency responders - i always find the idea that an Ambulance crew could have to dash 40 mins to a scene - but theres a doctor in a surgery dealing with less urgent things* 10 mins down the road.

    Obviously of course the best solutions is to resource the Ambulance service properly - but that's the sort of thing that might be considered as a back up to a PROPERLY RESOURCED Ambulance service

    *i mean non life treatning stuff - like colds/sore troats etc

    Think the ecrr and wcrr won a prize last year which will allow expansion.

    Actually just watching An Hour to Save Your Life. The doctor response needs the right teams at hospitals to take over. Interesting stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    foreign wrote: »
    Think the ecrr and wcrr won a prize last year which will allow expansion.

    Actually just watching An Hour to Save Your Life. The doctor response needs the right teams at hospitals to take over. Interesting stuff.

    fair point on the expansion.

    however - while the likes of Jason Van de Velde and Dr Hugh Doran - do amazing work.

    I happen to personally think that's whats expected of them - is too much for a volunteer.

    So i happen to think that this pre hospital doctor thing - is too good an idea to be simply voluntary - and that there should be funding for it.

    I wonder if say you take the primary care centre idea - if a pre hospital doctor was a member of the team - would that work????

    Goes without saying they need the training for pre hospital care - in fact part of the reason i think whats expected of pre hospital doctors as volunteers - is the colossal amount of training and skills they need simply for the pre hospital role - which is voluntary.

    In Uk - i understand that pre hospital emergency medicine is getting to the point its a subspeciality in its own right.

    The thinking behind that is pretty sound imo - but you can't have something that's almost a speciality in its own right - and expect it to be

    Anyway - that's all for now - and apologies for the off topic :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Yesterday on local radio /media in Galway the politicians were looking or votes by highlighting the lack of patrol cars and paddy wagons in the Salthill district. Hey presto last night the tooth fairy from Garda HQ, or whoever, delivers a new marked Hyundai in the middle of the night to the station. According to local radio, the car had been earmarked for Dundrum but it has now ended up in Galway. Went by the station this morning to see if I could get a pic, but alas the much needed car was out on patrol. I'll keep an eye out in the next few days and see if I can get pics of it up here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    ratracer wrote: »
    Yesterday on local radio /media in Galway the politicians were looking or votes by highlighting the lack of patrol cars and paddy wagons in the Salthill district. Hey presto last night the tooth fairy from Garda HQ, or whoever, delivers a new marked Hyundai in the middle of the night to the station. According to local radio, the car had been earmarked for Dundrum but it has now ended up in Galway. Went by the station this morning to see if I could get a pic, but alas the much needed car was out on patrol. I'll keep an eye out in the next few days and see if I can get pics of it up here.

    There good few ready to go depot they will be a lot out for paddys day parades show the public they look nice marked in regular markings the ones I saw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    If anyone gets a pic of a marked Hyundai please dont forget to post it up here :D !!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭carzony


    can't believe it's taken so long to capture one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    carzony wrote: »
    can't believe it's taken so long to capture one...

    There only marking them up in last two weeks all unmarked since start of the year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭Bosh


    In his best David Attenborough voice..

    "And meanwhile, in the depths of the Phoenix Park rainforest, dedicated researchers crouch in their camouflaged hides, zoom lenses at the ready, eager to catch a first glimpse of the fabled Lesser Spotted Hye-yun-Dai bird in it's full mating plumage..."

    :D:D:D:D:D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Chief87


    Are the new cars out in operation yet? I thought they were going to be out by the en of last year?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Rawhead


    I suppose it's a real sign of the times that people are getting excited about a new patrol car that if you were handed the keys of at a rental desk you would beg to change and sulk for the rest of your holiday if you couldn't.It's a bottom of the range, budget ****e heap that is stark proof that accountants now run the public service and cost now trumps every other consideration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    Chief87 wrote: »
    Are the new cars out in operation yet? I thought they were going to be out by the en of last year?

    That's more PR bull!!! The marked cars out this week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Rawhead wrote: »
    I suppose it's a real sign of the times that people are getting excited about a new patrol car that if you were handed the keys of at a rental desk you would beg to change and sulk for the rest of your holiday if you couldn't.It's a bottom of the range, budget ****e heap that is stark proof that accountants now run the public service and cost now trumps every other consideration.

    Its an interesting point Rawhead - i don't think id be turning down the keys of a Hyundai or other such car at the rental desk.

    BUT.

    The interesting point is that if you were to pick your ideal patrol car with the following criteria in mind

    1) Very good performance/roadholding - remembering that the car will be for emergency services use and thus will be driven quickly at times, driving to emergencies on all sorts of road conditions in varying weather conditions

    2) It would be expected to do 180,000 miles potentially before been changed

    3) Should be very user friendly in terms of been a good machine to work with when your responding to 999 calls - at the end off a long 12 hour shift

    4) Be capable of the specific task its been asked to do - so no 1.6 diesel on a job like RSU and traffic (remember criteria one)

    Would you pick a Hyundai 1.7 diesel with above criteria in mind or something else.

    To put it all in perspective though - there is a shortage of cars - so for many just the fact that theres something with 4 wheels been given out is handy.

    A Hyundai 1.7 diesel as unsuited as it would seem to emergency services use - is a lot better then been a car down which otherwise would have been the case.

    Fully understand where your coming from and actually agree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,329 ✭✭✭source


    Is that the i30 hatchback or tourer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    source wrote: »
    Is that the i30 hatchback or tourer?

    Tourer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    Blanchardstown station?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭carzony


    where is the pic gone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    carzony wrote: »
    where is the pic gone?

    sorry given the member create its back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭carzony


    POGAN wrote: »
    sorry given the member create its back

    Looks great doesn't it.. I'm actually surprised how well it looks:cool:

    I see they have a top blue light on the windscreen instead of having it at the bottom..

    Lads what's with the AA stickers on them? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    carzony wrote: »
    Looks great doesn't it.. I'm actually surprised how well it looks:cool:

    I see they have a top blue light on the windscreen instead of having it at the bottom..

    Lads what's with the AA stickers on them? :P


    I wish it had front light blues were build in as the unmarks do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭carzony


    POGAN wrote: »
    I wish it had front light blues were build in as the unmarks do

    under the grill like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    carzony wrote: »
    under the grill like?

    No blue into the park lights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    POGAN wrote: »
    I wish it had front light blues were build in as the unmarks do

    The unmarked cars don't have any lights in the parks. Just a removable dash light and two cover lights in the grill. O and two rear blues in the brake lights that aren't worth a fiddlers in the daytime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭carzony


    Hooch wrote: »
    The unmarked cars don't have any lights in the parks. Just a removable dash light and two cover lights in the grill. O and two rear blues in the brake lights that aren't worth a fiddlers in the daytime.
    Doesnt sound very safe if on a motorway or a busy main road does it lol..

    i seen a new focus hatchback and that was well lit up. rear blues in the indicators, huge blues in the grille and a dash light..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    carzony wrote: »
    Doesnt sound very safe if on a motorway or a busy main road does it lol..

    i seen a new focus hatchback and that was well lit up. rear blues in the indicators, huge blues in the grille and a dash light..

    Didn't realise they had the hatch focus on the run - I thought it was all estates for the Focus


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭carzony


    Old diesel wrote: »
    Didn't realise they had the hatch focus on the run - I thought it was all estates for the Focus

    it is a 131 reg. unmarked btw...

    sorry mate might be a saloon now that I think of it.. Anyway, they have one in clondalkin :)


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