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Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    djPSB wrote: »
    RVP signed when United were in the CL and Fergie was there.

    Mata one was a little strange, did anyone other club want him?

    Kroos is one of the top midfielders in Europe, CL is a must for him to even consider a club I would imagine.
    And there lies the issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    One of the players we have been linked with from Portugal.

    Wouldn't be disappointed with him - not the answer to our problems, but possibly the long term answer to one.

    William Carvalho?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    djPSB wrote: »
    RVP signed when United were in the CL and Fergie was there.

    Mata one was a little strange, did anyone other club want him?

    Kroos is one of the top midfielders in Europe, CL is a must for him to even consider a club I would imagine.

    champions league is never a must for most players....money talks and if you pay any player ridiculous wages you will have a good chance to sign them... united are offering kroos 250k a week. bayerns current offer is half that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,925 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    djPSB wrote: »
    RVP signed when United were in the CL and Fergie was there.

    Mata one was a little strange, did anyone other club want him?

    Kroos is one of the top midfielders in Europe, CL is a must for him to even consider a club I would imagine.

    I would imagine if United could sell him that we will only be out of the CL for one season it could be fine - and I think that is what United will be doing - telling all their targets who all the targets are, to show the team they will be a part of, not the team they are seeing now.

    I would imagine the same conversation will have been had with Rooney (was report as such) and Mata.

    City signed some very good players before they got CL football - they were sold on the 'project' (and the money). That is what United will have to do, what I believe they are planning to do - whether they pull it off is another matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭FatherTed


    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9206089/manchester-united-target-toni-kroos-says-premier-league-could-be-an-option

    Dunno if it was mentioned near the end of the last thread or not, but just saw this on Sky, Kroos says Premier League is a possibility, and won't rule out United simply for not qualifying for champions league.

    More than likely just angling for better deal with Bayern, but with RVP and Mata signing in last few years I have become more optimistic about our transfer dealings

    laughter.gif

    Kroos is not coming here. Bayern will reach a deal with him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Heard we have started talks with one player and his club - there could be more, but heard one name actually stated.

    One of the players we have been linked with from Portugal.

    Wouldn't be disappointed with him - not the answer to our problems, but possibly the long term answer to one.

    EDIT: Also - the paper talk that United want deals done BEFORE the world cup is being back up by the sources of the people who feed me tidbits of info. I would be surprised if there aren't a couple of deals officially done before the World Cup starts.

    nothing new there anyway, most clubs would like business done before the world cup, you get players at a better price and most players take holidays after the world cup so harder to buy them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    all the strootman followers will be disappointed now as it looks like he did his cruciate on sunday and will be out for 6-8 months..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,925 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    bangkok wrote: »
    nothing new there anyway, most clubs would like business done before the world cup, you get players at a better price and most players take holidays after the world cup so harder to buy them

    Indeed - but I believe United are actively working right now to get them done - not waiting til the summer to get started (part of the problem last summer).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,207 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    The Kroos quotes just seem like the typical "hurry up and sort out my contract" stuff you get out of players all the time. No doubt him and his agent will continue making flirty eyes at half the big clubs in Europe until he gets what he wants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Indeed - but I believe United are actively working right now to get them done - not waiting til the summer to get started (part of the problem last summer).

    yes well last summer was a total disaster with both fergie and david gill leaving the club at the same time. no potential transfer list was drawn up but now they know exactly what players to pursue and which positions need strengthening...

    I like all the noises Kroos is making but I still think he is playing Bayern for a bigger contract, on the other hand I would not be one bit surprised if he signed for united come summer


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    bangkok wrote: »
    yes well last summer was a total disaster with both fergie and david gill leaving the club at the same time. no potential transfer list was drawn up but now they know exactly what players to pursue and which positions need strengthening...

    I like all the noises Kroos is making but I still think he is playing Bayern for a bigger contract, on the other hand I would not be one bit surprised if he signed for united come summer

    Moyes said from the begining he wanted a CM and actively tried for a LB, the shambles was that it was left to Woodward to sort it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    bangkok wrote: »
    all the strootman followers will be disappointed now as it looks like he did his cruciate on sunday and will be out for 6-8 months..

    Really crap news. I was really looking forward to seeing him in the World Cup.

    Huge loss to Roma. Napoli will be delighted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭user2011


    Was watching the Napoli/Roma game last night, don't know why they let Strootman back on the pitch it was pretty clear it was a serious injury. The Roma manager was pissed like it was a bad challenge was nothing more then shoulder too shoulder and his knee gave out when he tried to stay up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    For any prospective signings, signing for United now is a challenge, a project to be part of, the new era where a new team is to be built around players of the ilk of Rooney (probably as captain), Mata, Januzaj, Kagawa (hopefully), Fellaini, de Gea, Jones, Smalling etc.

    That might well appeal to an awful lot of players, an opportunity to create a massive legacy and be part of a job right from the start...not to mention that and the big wedge of cash they'll be offered.

    Take Kroos for example, it might well be an option for him to resign for Bayern and continue on with more of the same or he could sign for Barca or Real or someone with a ready made CL challenging team where he just slots in and they continue on as they have been.

    OR he could come to us, be that defining player, make the difference in ushering in a new era of success returning United to the pinnacle of European soccer...that sort of challenge will appeal to these players egos.

    I would have to say the Kroos thing though looks to be just posturing to get that contract he wants at Bayern, he'll stay there in all likelihood


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    ericzeking wrote: »
    For any prospective signings, signing for United now is a challenge, a project to be part of, the new era where a new team is to be built around players of the ilk of Rooney (probably as captain), Mata, Januzaj, Kagawa (hopefully), Fellaini, de Gea, Jones, Smalling etc.

    That might well appeal to an awful lot of players, an opportunity to create a massive legacy and be part of a job right from the start...not to mention that and the big wedge of cash they'll be offered.

    Take Kroos for example, it might well be an option for him to resign for Bayern and continue on with more of the same or he could sign for Barca or Real or someone with a ready made CL challenging team where he just slots in and they continue on as they have been.

    OR he could come to us, be that defining player, make the difference in ushering in a new era of success returning United to the pinnacle of European soccer...that sort of challenge will appeal to these players egos.

    I would have to say the Kroos thing though looks to be just posturing to get that contract he wants at Bayern, he'll stay there in all likelihood

    Good post and good points to be fair.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    It's not like Kroos is the only option though. Vidal, Gundogan or Pjanic would also be excellent for us.

    Surely we can get at least 1 of them.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    BloodBath wrote: »
    It's not like Kroos is the only option though. Vidal, Gundogan or Pjanic would also be excellent for us.

    Surely we can get at least 1 of them.

    imo Pjanic is better (and cheaper) option.

    would love him at LFC


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    Mark Clattenburg it is boys !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    BloodBath wrote: »
    It's not like Kroos is the only option though. Vidal, Gundogan or Pjanic would also be excellent for us.

    Surely we can get at least 1 of them.

    Pjanic is open to a move to the Premier League too from what i read a few weeks ago (can't remember where!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    I wonder will players that sign for us use the words....."im excited by this new project" or is that only the players that sign for the oil rich clubs??!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    I just hope Moyes/Woodward don't put all their eggs in the Kroos basket like they did with Fabregas last summer.

    There are other great options.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    going to be a massive summer for a lot of clubs around Europe.... big spending as well

    Man Utd will potentially spend 150m on new players
    Barcelona around the same
    PSG 100-150m and if they get Pogba for 60m Juve will spend heavily
    If Liverpool get champions league they could spend anything up to 100m
    city and Chelsea will spend big again
    Monaco if they make champions league will invest heavily
    Inter Milan with new owners will spend
    Valencia the same
    Real Madrid will try and sign a striker and maybe midfielder

    Hopefully United will have the ground work done and get deals done early otherwise they will enter bidding wars and more than likely lose out


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    bangkok wrote: »
    If Liverpool get champions league they could spend anything up to 100m
    t

    not a chance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Don't think Barca need 150m investment, Madrid another midfielder or would we have to worry about Inter or Valencia..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    Agueroooo wrote: »
    not a chance

    Heard its 50 million and the players linked wouldn't give me confidence bar the Ukrainian chap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Don't think Barca need 150m investment, Madrid another midfielder or would we have to worry about Inter or Valencia..


    Believe me....barca will be having a squad overhaul in the summer.... 2 new defenders at least, a midfielder and a striker and 4 of those players will be going straight into the starting 11..... David Luiz is top target and they will prob get him 30-35m. Looking at Oscar as well. Aguero is possible too


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    Heard its 50 million and the players linked wouldn't give me confidence bar the Ukrainian chap.

    Our scouting has been pretty impressive but not a chance we will have 100mil to splash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    bangkok wrote: »
    going to be a massive summer for a lot of clubs around Europe.... big spending as well

    Man Utd will potentially spend 150m on new players
    Barcelona around the same Not a chance
    PSG 100-150m and if they get Pogba for 60m Juve will spend heavily Juve don't have the money to spend heavily and will be lucky to hold onto their best players
    If Liverpool get champions league they could spend anything up to 100m Not a chance, supposed to be around 50m if they get CL
    city and Chelsea will spend big again No they won't, 50m tops
    Monaco if they make champions league will invest heavily
    Inter Milan with new owners will spend
    Valencia the same
    Real Madrid will try and sign a striker and maybe midfielder

    Hopefully United will have the ground work done and get deals done early otherwise they will enter bidding wars and more than likely lose out


    United are the 4th richest club in the world with far more prestige than the likes of Monaco, Valencia, PSG, Chelsea or City. If we can match or beat their offers then it should be an easy choice for the players.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    Agueroooo wrote: »
    Our scouting has been pretty impressive but not a chance we will have 100mil to splash.

    If suarez is sold maybe........:pac: I dont envy you all summer with Real Madrid stories, they are a pain in the bollox.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    If suarez is sold maybe........:pac: I dont envy you all summer with Real Madrid stories, they are a pain in the bollox.

    We get CL = he stays

    We miss out = he is gone.

    but if Madrid come across with Bale type money then he will also be gone-but that is an extremely long shot.

    lost post about us ;)


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