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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭Tube


    Probably more accurate to compare the base prices with London rather than NI - but even in the one up the road from me in Highgate, a rather posh area, it's still only a little over 3 quid for a 330ml bottle of Punk IPA.

    Nearly made me sick when Against The Grain wanted nearly €7 for a pint of it when I was back home for Christmas.

    Paid €7.20 for a pint of Punk IPA over Xmas in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    2.89stg for 33cl of Punk IPA means an equivalent price of 4.97stg per pint.

    (Now I accept that if it was sold by the actual pint in JDW, the price would be less).

    4.97 at 82pence exchange rate turns into 6.06 euro.

    Add in higher VAT here, plus higher wages and overheads, and 7.00 euro Dublin price does not seem miles out of line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    How much are 33cl bottles of Punk IPA in Dublin?


    Punk IPA is 5.00 in L Mulligan Grocer:
    http://www.lmulligangrocer.com/download/i/mark_dl/u/4012249433/4605307705/beer%20list%20for%20website%20February.pdf


    Brooklyn lager 355ml is 5.00 in Ranelagh:
    http://www.taphouse.ie/download/TapHouse_Beers.pdf

    JDW should be able to sell that for 4.00 max, 20% less, as mentioned on TV news items by them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,764 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Geuze wrote: »
    2.89stg for 33cl of Punk IPA means an equivalent price of 4.97stg per pint.

    (Now I accept that if it was sold by the actual pint in JDW, the price would be less).

    4.97 at 82pence exchange rate turns into 6.06 euro.

    Add in higher VAT here, plus higher wages and overheads, and 7.00 euro Dublin price does not seem miles out of line.

    3.95stg a pint of punk in their Scottish pubs, London more expensive i assume.

    6.80 last time i had one in the black sheep.

    Do i recall someone saying it was 9 euro somewhere in city centre :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    £4.30 in Camden and Shoreditch, if I remember correctly, for Punk IPA and 5am Saint.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I realise that BrewDog pubs would be dearer than average, but no pint under 4.00stg in the Camden pub surprised me a bit.

    A pint of Punk IPA is 4.70stg, see above.

    That's about 5.75 euro.

    London can be pricey.

    Anyways, back on topic - if JDW can deliver 33cl bottles of good ales 6-9%, including hopefully a few Belgians, for 4 euro, I'll be happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    Geuze wrote: »
    The arrival of JD W into the Irish market will be interesting.

    How may the RoI suppliers react?

    Will JDW use their own UK supply chain?



    They will probably have to use their UK supply chain, because I can't see the Irish brewers taking to the Wetherspoon's buying strategy, which I won't go into here in a public forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    Also, prepare for a lot more fighting in the streets when a JDW comes to your town.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,754 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    Also, prepare for a lot more fighting in the streets when a JDW comes to your town.......

    Do you mean a price war between local pubs or drunken brawls on the high street?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    Punchups, fisticuffs, general thuggery, their beer rots the brain and turns idiots into complete f*@kwits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Chelon


    Tube wrote: »
    Draught = keg or cask.

    Cask as you know is rare enough in Ireland, and dare I say it, is more of an English tradition.

    I suppose strictly true, although I remember even in CAMRA circles they talked about draught=cask at times.

    Your second point - is this true? I thought I had read that many years ago Ireland had many small breweries which have disappeared over time - I'd have thought cask would be a natural fit, after all some pubs over here even lacked electricity just a few decades ago I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    Punchups, fisticuffs, general thuggery, their beer rots the brain and turns idiots into complete f*@kwits.

    Do they have a special type of beer that's different to the beer you get in other pubs?


    :o I meant to quote your post but edited my mistake. I put it back to your original statement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    Also, prepare for a lot more fighting in the streets when a JDW comes to your town.......
    Yeah, I can imagine Blackrock ending up making Beirut look like a holiday resort for pensioners.

    The Russel Court hotel has €2 pints of beer, including relatively high % paulaner, and €2 jagerbombs on certain days every week for several years now, the RTE news reports of the weekly riots on Harcourt street due to this are getting tiresome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭BMJD


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    Also, prepare for a lot more fighting in the streets when a JDW comes to your town.......

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Do they have a special type of beer that's different to the beer you get in other pubs?


    :o I meant to quote your post but edited my mistake. I put it back to your original statement.

    I probably shouldn't go into specifics here for obvious reasons, but if you are really eager to know then please don't hesitate to pm me.

    Let's just say not all beers/breweries/consume by dates/prices paid are equal.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Stop talking outta your hoop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    irish_goat wrote: »
    Stop talking outta your hoop.

    And pray tell how do you know I am?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭BMJD


    sloppy seconds then? reallly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    Let's just say not all beers/breweries/consume by dates/prices paid are equal.
    I don't think I have ever seen a beer with a "consume by" or "use by" date, I could imagine some oddball beer might, but I have never seen it nor would I expect to see it on any of the big selling ones in wetherspoons.

    Of course they have best befores, I was drinking one the other day 4 years out. I didn't think it was rotting my brain any more than usual, and found no increased aggression, which you seem to be inferring should happen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    Hypothetical (man goes to provider of "liquid" hello your liquid will be off in x days, we will buy all 1000 kegs, but not for the £100 you are asking, we will give you much much less) resulting in not very good "liquid", stupid reductions and morons consuming far more "liquid than they should.

    I was in the trade some years ago and this certainly was a fact of life then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    rubadub wrote: »
    I don't think I have ever seen a beer with a "consume by" or "use by" date, I could imagine some oddball beer might, but I have never seen it nor would I expect to see it on any of the big selling ones in wetherspoons.

    Of course they have best befores, I was drinking one the other day 4 years out. I didn't think it was rotting my brain any more than usual, and found no increased aggression, which you seem to be inferring should happen.

    If you were drinking an out of date bottle it is a slightly different matter and also you wouldn't have been consuming enough, but it ain't great for you.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    man goes to provider of "liquid" hello your liquid will be off in x days, we will buy all 1000 kegs, but not for the £100 you are asking, we will give you much much less
    This is totally contrary to the Wetherspoon policy of piling it extemely high and selling it extremely cheap. If they were buying in expiring job lots their cheapest beers would change. They wouldn't be GK IPA and Abbots all the time everywhere.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    If you were drinking an out of date bottle it is a slightly different matter and also you wouldn't have been consuming enough, but it ain't great for you.
    Science fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Can we keep him, he's entertaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    BeerNut wrote: »
    This is totally contrary to the Wetherspoon policy of piling it extemely high and selling it extremely cheap. If they were buying in expiring job lots their cheapest beers would change. They wouldn't be GK IPA and Abbots all the time everywhere.

    Their policy must have changed then, because lke I say some years ago they mainly had obscure breweries/beers all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Science fail.

    I wasn't basing it on science, just common sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    I wasn't basing it on science, just common sense.

    More like "common nonsense", the amount of myths surrounding alcohol always amazes me. You worked in the trade, so probably have heard more "bloke in the pub told me" stories than most. I know a few barmen and the stuff & "facts" some of them come out with is astonishing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    rubadub wrote: »
    More like "common nonsense", the amount of myths surrounding alcohol always amazes me. You worked in the trade, so probably have heard more "bloke in the pub told me" stories than most. I know a few barmen and the stuff & "facts" some of them come out with is astonishing.


    Maybe I should have said.....I wasn't a barman, and the conversations I had were with other licensees/trade reps and a couple of "pub company" men.

    I don't really care whether anyone believes me or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I have heard some awful nonsense from reps too, marketing people are prone to talking utter shite, many have no real knowledge of the things they actually sell.

    Was it a rep who informed you that beer past its best before date will "rot the brain and turn idiots into complete f*@kwits."


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