91hilux wrote: »

just got 2 phone calls from farmers where we have the
shooting on their lands
both ready to blow a fuse, it seems a party of local foreign nationals have been seeing poaching deer on some of our shooting ground.
as described by one farmer " they are setting nets along the inside of the forestry, sourced in dingle as damaged trawler nets, they then wait until night time to chase the deer into these nets by way of lamping and then kill them with knifes and machetes ,silver station wagon is the vehicle they travel in , they are working the Kerry area and its only a matter of time before they expand into other counties ,to all deer hunters etc, please keep an eye out and report if you see anything like this or send me a pm
myself and my shooting buddy along with a few local farmers will be keeping an eye out ,anyone that shoots deer in the Kerry area or that have leases please pm me for more details. NOW IS THE TIME TO STOP THIS BEFORE IT SPREADS OUT OF CONTROL AND WE ALL END UP REGREATTING IT .your help is needed as local game wardens and park rangers are thin on the line

If the farmers are seeing it happen, can they not call the garda and report it to the npws?

I was thinking of posting but was very unsure what to say.

Not saying poachers in general have and repect at all but this is a pure sign of disrespect for the deer and it just goes to show the values they have to treat the animals in such a fashion. It's such a disgrace and complete disrespect for the animals life.

Traping with nets and then kills them with knifes and machetes do not try and tell me the animals are not suffering.

I hope you get every one of these guys and make an example of them and send them to jail for a long time.

Bet the game dealer their bringing them to doesn't mind the machete scars.fu-en pigs

strangles wrote: »

Bet the game dealer their bringing them to doesn't mind the machete scars.fu-en pigs

Was alluding to that earlier. If they are taking that many deer, they must be going to game dealers.

I reckon there is a case to be made to food safety authorities around food hygiene etc and poaching meat for sale. If you look at recent cases for example where poachers have left the carcass behind for collection next day, imagine the vermin and all that were at that carcass.

If poaching in Ireland is as high as people suspect, then a huge amount of the meat must be risky too. Perhaps an angle of attack is to bring this to the attention of the food safety authorities, the ones in the UK as well where a lot of the meat is exported to. If they were aware of it, and the sheer lack of controls and low detection rate for poaching then it might concern them enough.

It's nearly unbelievable....then again, replace Ireland/Europe with Africa and net with minefield and that's how one gets ivory....

wexfordman2 wrote: »

Was alluding to that earlier. If they are taking that many deer, they must be going to game dealers.

I reckon there is a case to be made to food safety authorities around food hygiene etc and poaching meat for sale. If you look at recent cases for example where poachers have left the carcass behind for collection next day, imagine the vermin and all that were at that carcass.

If poaching in Ireland is as high as people suspect, then a huge amount of the meat must be risky too. Perhaps an angle of attack is to bring this to the attention of the food safety authorities, the ones in the UK as well where a lot of the meat is exported to. If they were aware of it, and the sheer lack of controls and low detection rate for poaching then it might concern them enough.

That's what this whole Game processors certification was supposed to sort out ,as apprently the British were giving out about the untracebility of Irish venison.

Have been off line for a while and just seeing this. I have a few permissions in the kerry area which i dont get to as often as i would like. Used to have more but for some mysterious reason i dont have now and these are people that i,ve known for years are more like friends than someone who,s, lets say just given you permission. Anyway with this carry on and what was going on Re the reds etc, im begining to see why some land owners down there are refusing people, even as in my case people that they know. This cant be allowed to continue. I remember reading a few years back about a cow that was killed and butchered in the field, cant remember what county but all the farmer found of his cow was skin head and feet and of course entrails, at the time i remember that it was suspected that foreign nationals where responsable. Now im not saying that all foreign nationals are bad or would do something like this but there are some that would have the skills with knives to carry something like this out. Also around the same time swans where dissapearing from rivers etc. Before i get attacked or accused of being against foreigners, i want to stress that this is not the case, im only quoting something that i read to the best of my knowlage and memory.

cookimonster wrote: »

Several years and a good few kilos ago I was out running in the Pheonix park with a mate when we came across a gralloch near the army grounds. As we made our way back to the barracks we meet the park rangers and they had all ready being notified.
I have seen dear being delt with in the park before and it is very discrete so this was not a cull animal by any stretch of the imagination.
So If its blatantly being done in the park its anybody's game in the wild.

On a side note, the deer in the Phoenix Park are like all other wild deer in Ireland. If you came accross a fresh and not too badly damaged road kill that has been abandoned at the roadside there's no offences if you'd throw it in the boot and took it home. If on the other hand you hit it with your car and then proceeded to throw it in the boot there's good enough grounds to prosecute you for poaching offences.