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carzony · 26-02-2014 08:54PM

foreign wrote: »

Nope. Still people on the old system.

You'd think during the 2000's when money was there to invest they'd train as many drivers as possible. Seems a huge amount aren't/weren't sent on these courses.

under 2L? So you couldn't drive the big transits or anything like that.

26-02-2014 08:59PM

carzony wrote: »

under 2L? So you couldn't drive the big transits or anything like that.

You applied for the car or van. You'd only get the van if there was a very good case for it.

source · 26-02-2014 09:02PM

Two i30 tourers in Limerick, apart from the dash light you really wouldn't know they were unmarked patrol cars.

carzony · 26-02-2014 09:06PM

foreign wrote: »

You applied for the car or van. You'd only get the van if there was a very good case for it.

Have to say seems very strict considering any fool with a full license or even provisional could drive a transit with no trouble.

I suppose, the garda transit may have to be driven quite fast though..

Tell me what do you need to drive a yaris or fiesta :P:P (joke)

26-02-2014 09:26PM

carzony wrote: »

Tell me what do you need to drive a yaris or fiesta :P:P (joke)

Thick skin.

kub · 26-02-2014 09:38PM

carzony wrote: »

Have to say seems very strict considering any fool with a full license or even provisional could drive a transit with no trouble.

I suppose, the garda transit may have to be driven quite fast though..

Tell me what do you need to drive a yaris or fiesta :P:P (joke)

I would like to see them parallel parking one.

Rawhead · 26-02-2014 09:45PM

Has genuinely always amazed me how the chiefs permission has never bankrupted the state in claims. A person walks into the chiefs office as a regular license holder with the same training as the next paddy in the street and leaves bestowed with a piece of paper that imparts the same knowledge and expertise that should take 3 weeks to learn.

26-02-2014 10:15PM

Rawhead wrote: »

Has genuinely always amazed me how the chiefs permission has never bankrupted the state in claims. A person walks into the chiefs office as a regular license holder with the same training as the next paddy in the street and leaves bestowed with a piece of paper that imparts the same knowledge and expertise that should take 3 weeks to learn.

Well, even after the 3 weeks you are still driving on your own licence and can still be prosecuted/found responsible for incidents.

kub · 26-02-2014 10:17PM

Rawhead wrote: »

Has genuinely always amazed me how the chiefs permission has never bankrupted the state in claims. A person walks into the chiefs office as a regular license holder with the same training as the next paddy in the street and leaves bestowed with a piece of paper that imparts the same knowledge and expertise that should take 3 weeks to learn.

Just as well that the general fleet cars are just family saloons so.

Old diesel · 26-02-2014 10:59PM

foreign wrote: »

Well I'm on chief the last few years and haven't had as much as a near miss so I think your comment is a bit unfair.

Sometimes cars will get damaged because of driver error but others are the victims of other drivers and deliberate acts. What happens the car after purchase should not be a deciding factor in purchasing. It should be member safety, appropriateness for the role and performance.

Do we have a place for i30's? Yes. Is it for frontline responders? No.

-snip-.

when you say -snip-

Turner · 26-02-2014 11:22PM

There is to be no release of internal Garda code or rules and regulations, as per charter.

This includes driving related discussion with regard to Chiefs permission or CPD driver training.

I have had to edit a few posts to remove certain material

No more discussion on Garda rules and regulations with regard to driving, that are not already in the public domain.

redout · 26-02-2014 11:24PM

Why is it that AGS does not provide driver training for new recruits? Regardless of whether they hold a license or not. Surely it limits them in their duty if they cannot drive a vehicle. Also what is the bike situation? I believe they were testing BMWs and Kawasakis a few months ago.

D Trent · 26-02-2014 11:39PM

redout wrote: »

Why is it that AGS does not provide driver training for new recruits? Regardless of whether they hold a license or not. Surely it limits them in their duty if they cannot drive a vehicle.

Well for three reasons really;
1. Cost
2. Cost
and
3. Cost

source · 27-02-2014 06:38AM

redout wrote: »

Why is it that AGS does not provide driver training for new recruits? Regardless of whether they hold a license or not. Surely it limits them in their duty if they cannot drive a vehicle. Also what is the bike situation? I believe they were testing BMWs and Kawasakis a few months ago.

I'm open to correction, but I believe the new syllabus includes driver training, and all new applicants must have a full B licence.

fiverfriday · 27-02-2014 06:43AM

source wrote: »

I'm open to correction, but I believe the new syllabus includes driver training, and all new applicants must have a full B licence.

Incorrect - no driving licence was required for recruitment this year.

27-02-2014 09:42AM

source wrote: »

I'm open to correction, but I believe the new syllabus includes driver training, and all new applicants must have a full B licence.

It was only a proposal.

Rawhead · 27-02-2014 09:53AM

foreign wrote: »

Well, even after the 3 weeks you are still driving on your own licence and can still be prosecuted/found responsible for incidents.

I know you still drive on your own license, but it's much the same as giving chiefs permission for the firearms ticket on the strength of you having a rifle at home. You either need a 3 week driving course or you don't.
It's not a criticism of the people driving on chiefs permission, it's a reflection of successive governments and management that allowed this to continue. Irish solution to an irish problem.

D Trent · 27-02-2014 12:05PM

source wrote: »

I'm open to correction, but I believe the new syllabus includes driver training, and all new applicants must have a full B licence.

Wrong on both accounts

BaronVon · 27-02-2014 12:06PM

redout wrote: »

Also what is the bike situation? I believe they were testing BMWs and Kawasakis a few months ago.

Supposed to be 35 Honda Deauvilles 700cc's coming next month......

Consy90 · 27-02-2014 01:09PM

May sound stupid but would it b possible for the state to bulk buy vehicles for state agency's. Seen a lot of new OPW jeeps on the road also irish water ways have new ford ranger jeeps and then the Esb have a lot of transits on the road.

Would it not make sense to include Garda vehicles in these orders ?

Not sure if I'm making sense

View Profile · 27-02-2014 01:30PM

redout wrote: »

I believe they were testing BMWs and Kawasakis a few months ago.

Be nice to see some Concours on the streets, although I do still love the FJR?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/satrow/8416660279/lightbox/

redout · 27-02-2014 04:29PM

infacteh wrote: »

Supposed to be 35 Honda Deauvilles 700cc's coming next month......

I suppose its better than nothing though I think the Deauvilles are not powerful enough in fairness. Really hoped they were gonna go for the BMWs. There was 3/4 over in Joe Duffys about 3 months back all done up in the Garda livery going out for testing.

View Profile wrote: »

Be nice to see some Concours on the streets, although I do still love the FJR?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/satrow/8416660279/lightbox/

Aye, the FJR is a beaut and well capable.

kub · 27-02-2014 07:59PM

Consy90 wrote: »

May sound stupid but would it b possible for the state to bulk buy vehicles for state agency's. Seen a lot of new OPW jeeps on the road also irish water ways have new ford ranger jeeps and then the Esb have a lot of transits on the road.

Would it not make sense to include Garda vehicles in these orders ?

Not sure if I'm making sense

Economies of scale as they say in economics? That sort of organisation requires what those who do, just don't have.

Mycroft H · 27-02-2014 08:07PM

to be fair the 680cc Deauvilles aren't bad bikes, ultra reliable machine. Not as quick as the Beamers but not a slouch either. Meant to be easy about town too.

kub · 06-03-2014 12:57AM

My credibility in The Gardai always goes up a notch when i see guys like this in action: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4y6rOhy4SNdEqMcK512VuA/videos

Thanks to the poster over on the picture thread.

3fullback · 06-03-2014 01:09AM

kub wrote: »

My credibility in The Gardai always goes up a notch when i see guys like this in action: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4y6rOhy4SNdEqMcK512VuA/videos

Thanks to the poster over on the picture thread.

I knew a few on this would like it ! Wait till you realise what bibing is !!! Haha

donvito99 · 11-03-2014 04:11PM

NAS officers have unmarked versions of those Subaru AP cars. Beggars belief...

Old diesel · 11-03-2014 04:42PM

donvito99 wrote: »

NAS officers have unmarked versions of those Subaru AP cars. Beggars belief...

In an ideal world id rather services like East Cork Rapid response and West Cork Rapid response get the cars.

However - if officers in NAS are managers - its not uncommon imo for managers to get company cars as part of their job.

I can see why though that it would be annoying - if the managers got the cars on the basis that they could use them for going to calls - but they don't actually go to calls.

That would be VERY annoying.

If they do go to calls regularly - then I have no issue with them getting a car for responding to those calls

11-03-2014 05:31PM

Is taking 10 vehicles (that we can see, could be more, I suppose) off the road not a bit of a silly reaction to that event? Surely it'd have been better to get a little tent set up and a doctor inside to assess people?

11-03-2014 06:29PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is taking 10 vehicles (that we can see, could be more, I suppose) off the road not a bit of a silly reaction to that event? Surely it'd have been better to get a little tent set up and a doctor inside to assess people?

How effective would a tent be in dealing with possible chemical burns or breathing difficulties? And the fact we have no responding doctors other than ecrr and wcrr.

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