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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭raymix


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Well that's what I was thinking. An overclocked 4770k would surely be up to the task. I'll have a separate 4TB drive for recording. Would it struggle to write 1440p@30fps without too much compression? Maybe 2x2TB in raid would be better?

    At that resolution I would suggest staying away from green drives, the compression is not the problem here, in fact the more you compress, the less you are BTed by speed of HDD. 4770k is capable of recording 1080p@60fps no problem, which means 1440p@30 should be a breeze, but that definitely rules out fraps and leaves you with frame limiting recorder like Dxtory. You still get to play at full framerate, just that video is limited to 30fps.

    I don't have 1440p monitor yet and there's not much I can help from personal experience. There are 2 options with Dxtory tho - built in Dxtory codec or Lagarith codec. Lagarith one uses bit more CPU power, but makes file size much smaller, which means you can choose between the two depending on your needs.
    For 1080p it's easy - there's not much stress on CPU at all, so doing less strain on HDD is a better idea. I've used 50MB/s, 60MB/s and 120MB/s drives at 29.97fps just fine, just to give you a hint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Squaredude


    I'm losing about 15 fps when using Dxtory. Would using a slower hdd be causing this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    I'd be getting WD Reds. I'd record 1440p at 60 fps if possible. I don't want to compress the source material much as it's going to get compressed again by whatever video service I upload it to.

    I'll look into it more anyway. Thanks for the info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Seaaan


    Just ordered an Asus 290 DC2 and a Samsung 840 evo 120gb. I'm broke now. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭raymix


    Squaredude wrote: »
    I'm losing about 15 fps when using Dxtory. Would using a slower hdd be causing this?

    There are few factors why that happens:
    The game itself and it's resource usage, quad core CPU, HDD and codec you use.
    Dxtory is capable of using all cores of CPU for encoding, which makes Fx-8xxx and i7 series so desirable. It also uses GPU for encoding. So if you are playing GPU-bound game, I would suggest turning this setting on. You can benchmark your HDD speed within Dxtory, too. Not sure how accurate it is tho, I prefer AS SSD one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Squaredude


    raymix wrote: »
    There are few factors why that happens:
    The game itself and it's resource usage, quad core CPU, HDD and codec you use.
    Dxtory is capable of using all cores of CPU for encoding, which makes Fx-8xxx and i7 series so desirable. It also uses GPU for encoding. So if you are playing GPU-bound game, I would suggest turning this setting on. You can benchmark your HDD speed within Dxtory, too. Not sure how accurate it is tho, I prefer AS SSD one.

    Cheers I'll give that a go later on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Why not use a small SSD as a recording drive, then transfer it to a larger drive for storage afterwards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭raymix


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Why not use a small SSD as a recording drive, then transfer it to a larger drive for storage afterwards?

    Some people likes to record whole session of hours of gameplay and then edit it, so the filesize would be enormous to say the least.
    Personally I keep a hotkey close to me and poke it when I see a movement.

    Either way HDD is not that big of a deal compared to other factors. Here's an example of a guy struggling with bad/old/slow drives and giving out some numbers.
    For comparison - latest WD green can handle speeds around 80MB/s, Blue I believe goes about 120-150MB/s, red 160MB/s? Either way after this drive speeds diminishes quite a bit.
    I am using Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 atm at 106MB/s and it works just fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭..Brian..


    Gumbi wrote: »
    Overvolting those bad does cause huge increases in power draw. An 850 gold should be OK though. You had 740w power draw when gaming at1.3v?

    I was just checking to see if the cards were voltage locked. I cranked the volts up in AB and loaded Heaven for about a minute and then checked max volts in GPUz. I had 1.3v on both cards but my power monitor was reading 700w+ being pulled form the wall.
    BloodBath wrote: »
    I doubt there will be much overclocking on the gpus for crossfire. Heat is going to be an issue. I'll be looking to bring them to 290x levels though.

    How did you measure the power consumption? The psu always draws more from the wall than the parts actually use. It's down to the efficiency of the psu and how much load it's under.

    I would say average gaming loads wouldn't use much more than 600w of power. For proper efficiency I should probably go for 1000w gold or platinum though. Not cheap :(

    I use a power monitor to measure draw from the wall. You're dead right, at stock I typically pull between 550w and 650w whilst gaming (3570k, Asus 290 DCU II crossfire). But again, that's stock. I wouldn't be happy with my PSU (XFX 750W) running at 90%+ load all the time gaming.

    1000w doesn't have to break the bank either. You can get a CoolerMaster V1000 for about €185 delivered from HWVD using Skinflint which is arguably the best 1000w PSU on the market! So for the sake of an extra ~€50 over an RM850 for example, it's probably worth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    BloodBath wrote: »

    I don't play Rust or DayZ Shadowhearth, but that is actually the monitor I am using. The only thing I have time to play really is BF4, played the Titanfall Beta as well which also worked perfectly, and Bioshock Infinite, Company of Heroes 2, Colonial Marines, too, to name a few recent ones. Most modern games support it, and the few that don't (like COD) are easily fixed using the 'Widescreen Fixer' program, worked perfectly for Ghosts.

    Movies are usually 21:9, but most rips aren't in that format, so yeah, the vast majority of downloaded content is either boxed or stretched on the monitor, Blu-Rays are great though, usually I watched media content on my TV which is right beside the monitor.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    COD is also easily fixed by uninstalling it :)

    How do you find it for gaming compared to 16:9?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Initially.....

    huge-mistake.png

    But now I love it. I can't speak for most genres as I almost entirely play FPS (with a few older RTS that barely support 16:9 let alone 21:9), but having such a wide view is something that's impossible to go back from - a bit like that initial step from 4:3 to 16:9 to be honest. It's hard going back to 16:9.

    It's not perfect but when it works, as it mostly does, it's brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭raymix


    Depends on what you are after, I guess. For me personally vertical space is as important, especially when working with CGI apps. For multitasking and extra horizontal screen estate i'd rather go dual or tripple monitors.
    I'm actually thinking of getting 1440p and rotating current 1080p 90 degrees and use it for websites or PDF files, keeping 1050p besides for movies/youtube/benchmarking tools, whatever the case.
    Gaming at 21:9 would be interesting tho, it's like having dual monitors without a bezel in middle. It would be a thing to consider if gaming was the only thing I'd plan to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    What model 290s are you going to god for Bloodbath? Reference cooling is usually best for multi GPU setups, unless you have excellent airflow and good spacing between cards, but the reference cooling is poor on the 290/290xs. Replacing the thermal paste can help a lot, but still, the cards will be loud and hot if you want to maintain 1000mhz.

    I'd probably go for the Trix tbh, far superior to the DCUII and other models.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Not sure yet to be honest. I'll look into it closer to ordering.

    Kinda hoping HIS do a version of their blower cooler for the 290.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    raymix wrote: »
    Depends on what you are after, I guess. For me personally vertical space is as important, especially when working with CGI apps. For multitasking and extra horizontal screen estate i'd rather go dual or tripple monitors.
    I'm actually thinking of getting 1440p and rotating current 1080p 90 degrees and use it for websites or PDF files, keeping 1050p besides for movies/youtube/benchmarking tools, whatever the case.
    Gaming at 21:9 would be interesting tho, it's like having dual monitors without a bezel in middle. It would be a thing to consider if gaming was the only thing I'd plan to do.

    If I was doing more than gaming, not sure it'd suit. I do editing as well, and the screen space is OK, sometimes I wish I had more though. I'd only recommend it entirely based upon gaming really though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    If I was doing more than gaming, not sure it'd suit. I do editing as well, and the screen space is OK, sometimes I wish I had more though. I'd only recommend it entirely based upon gaming really though.

    Cheers for all info m8. Looks like I decided now and will go the same monitor. Way too good value to miss out on.

    I just realised,that my both 2312hm's will work perfect I'm portrait mode too thx to amazing dell stands. It will look word but **** will it be good lol.
    Just one more thing, could you measure the length of it, and I am not talking about your eGentelman sausage m8. I want to see will it fit fine on my desk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Another question about that monitor, what are the contrast/brightness levels like?

    Any ghosting?

    Maybe I should go for 16gb of ram as well for recording and editing 1440p. I'd imagine it will eat ram.

    -edit-

    Got a question for 290 owners. Have you had a chance to test AMD's True Audio? Does it work with all games or do they have to support it? Have you tested it and if so what were the results like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Guys, I was just wondering. When I get that new monitor, will I still needto have active display port adapter to be able to have 3 monitors connected? Or I will be able just use any connection spare and have non surround 3 monitor setup?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Seaaan


    Is DVI-I dual link output on a graphics card compatible with DVI-D dual link monitor, with a DVI-D cable? Friend lent me his 7770 until my new card comes, and I'm wondering if I can use my Qnix with it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Pretty sure it has to be DVI-D or mini display port for 1440p.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Seaaan


    Alright thanks. 22" is so small ugh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Pretty sure it has to be DVI-D or mini display port for 1440p.

    I will use DVI-D for new monitor all right, though i got my 2x2312hms that need to be connected too. Can I just use another DVI and Displa port to Display Port connection. Or I will still need and active adapter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Seaaan wrote: »
    Alright thanks. 22" is so small ugh

    I think BloodBath was responding to ShadowHearth? The DVI-I connection should be fine.
    I will use DVI-D for new monitor all right, though i got my 2x2312hms that need to be connected too. Can I just use another DVI and Displa port to Display Port connection. Or I will still need and active adapter?

    You don't need an adapter if one of the connections is displayport to displayport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Monotype wrote: »
    I think BloodBath was responding to ShadowHearth? The DVI-I connection should be fine.



    You don't need an adapter if one of the connections is displayport to displayport.

    Great. Ill get one of those cables too and Connect one of the Dells so. the other one with normal DVI and the main Monitor with Dual DVI. I hope they will give dual one with a monitor.

    Edit: I can connect 2560x1080 through Display port too, right? I might just leave both Dells on DVI then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    The AOC one? I don't see why not. It has a displayport connector on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Monotype wrote: »
    The AOC one? I don't see why not. It has a displayport connector on it.

    I was just wondering if display port supports that resolution. Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Ah yeah, it would, why not if they have the connection? Now your monitor configuration won't allow you to game on them as one, but I don't see any issues with having 3 separate monitors from the one card.

    Don't you have a GTX 680 SH? nVidia did away with that needing specific connections/SLI in their 600 and 700 series. The high end cards, at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Monotype wrote: »
    Ah yeah, it would, why not if they didn't have the connection? Now your monitor configuration won't allow you to game on them as one, but I don't see any issues with having 3 separate monitors from the one card.

    Don't you have a GTX 680 SH? nVidia did away with that needing specific connections/SLI in their 600 and 700 series. The high end cards, at least.

    Its going to be wide enough as it is lol. I think I will put my other 2 monitors in portrait mode too as my awesome antique table wont fit in all 3! :pac:
    As long as I can have all 3 monitors working and use them as one big desktop etc, I am happy enough. I am playing on one monitor even now.

    Need to bring bad news to misses now. I found my birthday Present! :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian




    Titanfall review from a Quake player's perspective.


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