Charlatan "girl against flouride" finally exposed

Muise... · 23-02-2014 08:03PM

melissak wrote: »

I imagine that the fluoride that occurs naturally in water is NATURAL no? I believe that this is her point, that UNNATURALLY adding something to our water is a bad idea. I personally don't have any faith in the government figuring its way out of a paper bag, not to mind figuring the safe level of anything..

Riiiight.

The government look at the best of our scientific knowledge to ascertain levels of fluoride that will improve dental health, but you'd personally have faith in an unvaccinated nutritionist angel healer who makes her case with her tits?

melissak · 23-02-2014 08:05PM

I'm sorry. I am new to boards i thought that post quick reply to a post would clarify who you were replying to. Do I have to copy and paste to do this or is there an easier way

Wacker The Attacker · 23-02-2014 08:08PM

mango salsa wrote: »

I really have despaired at Irish people over the last year or two who were taken by this clueless conspiracy theorist and am delighted that she is being finally exposed. I am delighted her previous supporters are now starting to withdraw their support. Luke Ming Flanagan announced the other day he no longer supports her.

The thing that I found really really hilarious and worrying at the same time is that some of her campaign team believe the pill and plastics cause homosexuality and castor oil cures cancer.

www.geoffsshorts.blogspot.ie/2013/11/girl-against-fluoride-f-minus-for-effort.html?m=1

www.geoffsshorts.blogspot.ie/2013/11/girl-against-fluoride-vaccine.html?m=1

www.geoffsshorts.blogspot.ie/2013/12/fluoride-girls-creative-director-links.html?m=1

www.corkskeptics.org/2013/12/18/water-fluoridation-and-leukaemia-the-missing-connection/

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7IibyOvUf1Fc0VuSmYyQTJFNTg/preview

I'd shag the girl in the pink knickers. Top left. The two top right are mad looking yokes

BlutendeRabe · 23-02-2014 08:08PM

melissak wrote: »

I imagine that the fluoride that occurs naturally in water is NATURAL no? I believe that this is her point, that UNNATURALLY adding something to our water is a bad idea. I personally don't have any faith in the government figuring its way out of a paper bag, not to mind figuring the safe level of anything..

In a number of cases where fluoride occurs naturally (e.g. Southwest America and a large part of Inida), the levels are way above accepted safety levels. This leads to problems with bone development and strength.

Just because something is natural doesnt mean its safe. Its the single biggest fallacy with a lot of Alt.Med practitioners.

melissak · 23-02-2014 08:10PM

srsly78 wrote: »

What about all the Nitrogen in our air supply? A dangerous chemical often used in explosives!

yes but we as a species have evolved to tolerate what occurs naturally in our environment. Otherwise species would have died out:)

Muise... · 23-02-2014 08:15PM

melissak wrote: »

yes but we as a species have evolved to tolerate what occurs naturally in our environment. Otherwise species would have died out:)

Oh no. So much remedial education. Such little time. Wow.

23-02-2014 08:17PM

melissak wrote: »

yes but we as a species have evolved to tolerate what occurs naturally in our environment. Otherwise species would have died out:)

THere is no difference between the fluoride already present in our water and the fluoride that is added.

Robbo · 23-02-2014 08:21PM

jh79 wrote: »

THere is no difference between the fluoride already present in our water and the fluoride that is added.

But but but but.....[adopts sinister tone of voice]industrial waste byproduct.

A qualified sciencemologist with his PLC certificate in forestry management from West Bantry School for the Bewildered told me so...

melissak · 23-02-2014 08:23PM

BlutendeRabe wrote: »

In a number of cases where fluoride occurs naturally (e.g. Southwest America and a large part of Inida), the levels are way above accepted safety levels. This leads to problems with bone development and strength.

Just because something is natural doesnt mean its safe.[/QU
Yes, I am aware of this, but over generations a species will either adapt to its environment, die or move away. I am just saying that we have to put up with what is natural in our environment or move but that is not an argument to unnaturally add it to our water. Thank you for your info though I didn't know that about bone development in india etc. I just got on this thread to say people are entitled to their opinions

Muise... · 23-02-2014 08:24PM

Robbo wrote: »

But but but but.....[adopts sinister tone of voice]industrial waste byproduct.

A qualified sciencemologist with his PLC certificate in forestry management from West Bantry School for the Bewildered told me so...

and we should not dismiss his opinion because DEMOCRACY!!!!!!

Robbo · 23-02-2014 08:26PM

Muise... wrote: »

and we should not dismiss his opinion because DEMOCRACY!!!!!!

And if you don't like it, you're a communist. Who as it happens are trying to steal our precious bodily fluids through fluoridation.

Muise... · 23-02-2014 08:28PM

Robbo wrote: »

And if you don't like it, you're a communist. Who as it happens are trying to steal our precious bodily fluids through fluoridation.

OMG my calcified pineal gland just asploded!

ancapailldorcha · 23-02-2014 08:31PM

melissak wrote: »

BlutendeRabe wrote: »

In a number of cases where fluoride occurs naturally (e.g. Southwest America and a large part of Inida), the levels are way above accepted safety levels. This leads to problems with bone development and strength.

Just because something is natural doesnt mean its safe.[/QU
Yes, I am aware of this, but over generations a species will either adapt to its environment, die or move away. I am just saying that we have to put up with what is natural in our environment or move but that is not an argument to unnaturally add it to our water. Thank you for your info though I didn't know that about bone development in india etc. I just got on this thread to say people are entitled to their opinions

You're certainly entitled to your opinion but posting it on a discussion forum will open it up to criticism from that forum's users.

Robbo · 23-02-2014 08:31PM

Muise... wrote: »

OMG my calcified pineal gland just asploded!

Few crystals, some angel healing and a reverse osmosis filter and you'll be grand.

€1,500 please, invoice is in the post.

melissak · 23-02-2014 08:38PM

jh79 wrote: »

THere is no difference between the fluoride already present in our water and the fluoride that is added.

Except perhaps that it is ADDED...

Annasopra · 23-02-2014 08:40PM

ClovenHoof wrote: »

She never said anything like this from what I've read? Why the hatred? All she wants is for Fluoride to be a topical treatment like it is in most of Europe and not ingested.

How is this so appalling to you?

I don't hate her.

I just don't believe any of the nonsense from her or her campaign. It's apalling that so many people are gullible enough to believe it.

Jonny7 · 23-02-2014 08:40PM

melissak wrote: »

yes but we as a species have evolved to tolerate what occurs naturally in our environment. Otherwise species would have died out:)

Think of all the naturally occurring diseases, bacteria, chemicals, deadly flora and fauna that can kill you

Have we evolved to deal with them? nooope

We just use technology to beat them.. we literally cheat illness and death

23-02-2014 08:41PM

melissak wrote: »

Except perhaps that it is ADDED...

What's your point?

Jonny7 · 23-02-2014 08:41PM

This must be the third time I've posted this but what the hey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

Corkfeen · 23-02-2014 08:46PM

Robbo wrote: »

And if you don't like it, you're a communist. Who as it happens are trying to steal our precious bodily fluids through fluoridation.

Have you ever seen a Russian drink water? No? That's because they drink vodka as they've fluoridated all the water!

I've been contemplating posting the same Strangelove clip.

melissak · 23-02-2014 08:46PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

You're entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts.

What facts did i offer except that she can say what she believes

melissak · 23-02-2014 08:49PM

jh79 wrote: »

What's your point?

what is yours. My point is that she can say what she believes as long as she has the courage to say it publicly under her own name instead of attacking someone for having the courage of her own convictions behind a screen name and a computer

23-02-2014 08:53PM

melissak wrote: »

what is yours. My point is that she can say what she believes as long as she has the courage to say it publicly under her own name instead of attacking someone for having the courage of her own convictions behind a screen name and a computer

What has this got to do with your suggestion that the addition of fluoride is wrong?

melissak · 23-02-2014 08:58PM

Muise... wrote: »

Riiiight.

The government look at the best of our scientific knowledge to ascertain levels of fluoride that will improve dental health, but you'd personally have faith in an unvaccinated nutritionist angel healer who makes her case with her tits?

Riiiiight.
The government also look at the best of our economic knowledge to ascertain levels of knowing how to get out of a recession.... I never said that I have faith in anything. I have more respect for a person who makes a case with her tits and her own name and face than people who hide behind a screen name and a computer disparaging people who feel strongly about an issue who put their reputation where their mouth is...

melissak · 23-02-2014 09:01PM

Jonny7 wrote: »

Think of all the naturally occurring diseases, bacteria, chemicals, deadly flora and fauna that can kill you

Have we evolved to deal with them? nooope

We just use technology to beat them.. we literally cheat illness and death

We can't cheat death. Alas it comes to us all. I am not saying anything except that she like all of us is entitled to her opinion..

23-02-2014 09:04PM

melissak wrote: »

We can't cheat death. Alas it comes to us all. I am not saying anything except that she like all of us is entitled to her opinion..

And we are entitled to challenge her opinion

Jonny7 · 23-02-2014 09:05PM

melissak wrote: »

My point is that she can say what she believes

Yes, just as someone can say she is full of ****

Maybe some feel it's okay for people to be spreading nonsense, e.g. vaccines cause autism, but it's flat out wrong and could (and does) genuinely affect people who believe it

Jonny7 · 23-02-2014 09:12PM

melissak wrote: »

We can't cheat death.

We do daily

"naturally occurring diseases, bacteria, chemicals, deadly flora and fauna"

I deliberately never mentioned old age

Capt'n Midnight · 23-02-2014 09:15PM

melissak wrote: »

Yes, I am aware of this, but over generations a species will either adapt to its environment, die or move away. I am just saying that we have to put up with what is natural in our environment or move but that is not an argument to unnaturally add it to our water. Thank you for your info though I didn't know that about bone development in india etc. I just got on this thread to say people are entitled to their opinions

No we don't have to put up with what is natural in our environment.

That, after all is why we have water treatment plants in the first place.

It's also why we have houses and clothes and cooked food and use fire and medicine. We have been cheating for most of the last 1.9 million years.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0044904

dating back to the Neolithic. Here we report a 6500-year-old human mandible from Slovenia whose left canine crown bears the traces of a filling with beeswax.

6,500 years later and we still need fillings , we aren't evolving fast enough :rolleyes:

http://www.juniordentist.com/oldest-tooth-decay-caries-found-in-paleozoic-reptile-dinosaur.html

The First recorded evidence of Tooth Decay / Caries has been seen in this Reptile named Labidosaurus hamatus or the “lipped lizard” which belonged to the Permian geological period which was 275 million years ago.

Hmmm... might take a bit longer than to evolve.

melissak · 23-02-2014 09:23PM

jh79 wrote: »

What has this got to do with your suggestion that the addition of fluoride is wrong?

Muise... wrote: »

Oh no. So much remedial education. Such little time. Wow.

Such little time?? I doubt that. You seem to have the opposite problem...again, hiding behind a screen name insulting people isn't big or clever..To speak to you in a language you MIGHT and this is a stretch, understand bounces off me and sticks to you. If you wish to personally insult me use your name. People are entitled to opinions. Not just you.

Charlatan "girl against flouride" finally exposed

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