Why do Irish people hate their country so much?

Artful_Badger · 21-02-2014 07:21PM

I don't hate the country I hate all the assholes who live in it.

For Forks Sake · 21-02-2014 07:21PM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I don't hate the country I hate all the assholes who live in it.

Don't worry, we're not too fond of you either

Reekwind · 21-02-2014 07:55PM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I don't hate the country I hate all the assholes who live in it.

Ever hear of Epimenides?

UCDVet · 21-02-2014 07:57PM

I don't know many people who hate Ireland...and I think it's a bit unfair to paint people that way.

Irish people are going to complain about Ireland more than anyone else because....it's Ireland. I don't care if people in Canada have to pay high taxes nearly as much as I care about the taxes I have to pay. That doesn't mean anyone hates the country. It means they see opportunities to improve it.

Irish people have a high rate of emigration too - but again, I think it's really unproductive to say, 'Oh they hate Ireland!'. I've never met anyone who left Ireland because they 'hated it'. They actually had really good reasons for leaving that parallel the reasons other people I know have left their home country. Sure, some want some adventure....but overwhelmingly, the #1 reason is economics.

It's easier to say, 'Oh so many Irish people hate Ireland!' than to say, 'There are some serious problems in Ireland that makes it really easy for Irish people to leave and live somewhere else with fewer problems'.

blueser · 21-02-2014 08:02PM

A great country, ruined by politicians, religion and the bloody weather.

Artful_Badger · 21-02-2014 08:03PM

Reekwind wrote: »

Ever hear of Epimenides?

Cant say as I have, and I'm none the wiser after lookin it up either.

questionmark? · 21-02-2014 08:11PM

I love Ireland. I loved Ireland before I had to emigrate, I still love it and one day I will move back and love it some more! Just like a proper bunny boiler would!!!

I'm not going to let a few **** who live on the island ruin it as much as they may try.

coolbeans · 21-02-2014 08:15PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

You sound like the type of boring old fart who enjoys the Kraut sense of humour. God help the poor ***** who have to listen to your fulfilling conversations about recycling and efficient use of empty beans cans. Moving to Germany was the best decision you made. I bet your relatives would agree with that

That's a fairly bitter comment tbh. Touched a nerve has he? Feeling left behind perchance?

MonstaMash · 21-02-2014 08:17PM

We don't hate our country per se...we hate the weather, the corrupt politicians/government/bankers, paedo priests & ourselves, who once were 'The Fighting Irish' & are now the 'roll over & take it up the ass & whinge about it while doing fook all about it Irish' IMHO :mad:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 21-02-2014 08:18PM

FTA69 wrote: »

Ireland's the greatest country in the world. It's just run by a self-serving clique of bastards who f*ck the rest of us over at every opportunity.

In fairness, much of the population are a self-serving shower of bastards who f*ck each other over at every opportunity. Its what the property bubble was built on.

My hole is killing me most of the time.

dd972 · 21-02-2014 08:20PM

It's actually a great wee country in terms of it's geological make up and many of the people, however the state, weather, gombeenism, village idiot mentality and infrastructure render it borderline uninhabitable.

Great place to live if your're in the money but of course that applies everywhere.

daRobot · 21-02-2014 09:14PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I find the conversations I have on a night out with other people to be much more fulfilling.

+10000

Having lived in a few places, I find that many of us Irish are painfully trapped in either (among friends) endless "slagging/banter", or (among semi-strangers) the most predictable small talk.

It's the sole thing that makes me want to leave here. It can genuinely be hard to have a good conversation. People constantly talk about nothing.

FollatonWood · 21-02-2014 09:22PM

I like Ireland. That said, if I wasn't living in Dublin I'd most likely be abroad. I can't stand the small town mentality and backwardness of rural Ireland. I'm allowed to say that - because I grew up in the arsehole of nowhere for 17years!

SpaceCowb0y · 21-02-2014 09:44PM

I love being Irish and all that goes with it, ridiculous stereotypes included!

However having travelled a bit i can honestly say i do like living elsewhere! Ireland will always be here to come back to when you feel homesick, you can get to Ireland from just about anywhere in 24 hours now it's not like the olden days where it took a week and the family saving to get abroad and there's a lot more on offer elsewhere (jobs, decent weather etc) especially with the way things are going here at the moment!

orangesoda · 21-02-2014 10:26PM

It's a grim hole just like everywhere else in the british isles but it is still better looking than england

Dirty Dingus McGee · 21-02-2014 10:37PM

Am I the only person that likes the miserable weather.

I don't think I'd be able to live and work in a country where the weather was great all the time at least here you don't feel like your missing out on something by being in work imagine having the work in a really warm climate it would drive me mad.I can't stand anything much hotter than 20 degrees.

swimming in a sea · 21-02-2014 11:01PM

First off I detest the weather and I know some day I'll retire somewhere warm,

But what I do appreciate about Ireland is the freedom, leave Dublin and you can travel the country and not meet a single police car(some might think this is bad but not me), some people here saying how great Germany is, well i work for a German firm and often go there, a lot of Germans use a compulsory ID Card instead of the passport when flying in the EU. The thought of being forced to have one of them fills me with dread(I don't know why)

Kev_2012 · 21-02-2014 11:51PM

I'm Irish and living in Vancouver and I love Ireland.

However, there are major problems :
- The government screwing everyone and no one doing anything about it.
- The weather is f*cking awful.
- The negative attitudes people have all the time.
- The lack of opportunity outside of Dublin.
- The amount of scumbags and crime.
- The laziness and self entitlement of a LOT of people. Our social welfare is too bloody high.
- I wish Irish women were more into activities and sport etc.! Look at the Canadian womens olympic team and how well they do, most of the women here love working out and that, I love that.

Positives :
- I think, genuinely that we have some of the best humour in world.
- Our women can be seriously hot and better craic than most others!
- We DEFINITELY have the best quality of pint.
- Limerick, for me, is the best place in the world when it comes to sport, either watching it or playing it and nothing beats a good heineken cup match in Thomond Park

- Wages, well in my area of work are much better in Ireland than anywhere else except California.

blueser · 22-02-2014 12:39AM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Am I the only person that likes the miserable weather.

I don't think I'd be able to live and work in a country where the weather was great all the time at least here you don't feel like your missing out on something by being in work imagine having the work in a really warm climate it would drive me mad.I can't stand anything much hotter than 20 degrees.

In all probability, yes. The weather is godawful.

22-02-2014 12:48AM

Kev_2012 wrote: »

I'm Irish and living in Vancouver and I love Ireland.

However, there are major problems :
- The government screwing everyone and no one doing anything about it.
- The weather is f*cking awful.
- The negative attitudes people have all the time.
- The lack of opportunity outside of Dublin.
- The amount of scumbags and crime.
- The laziness and self entitlement of a LOT of people. Our social welfare is too bloody high.
- I wish Irish women were more into activities and sport etc.! Look at the Canadian womens olympic team and how well they do, most of the women here love working out and that, I love that.

Positives :
- I think, genuinely that we have some of the best humour in world.
- Our women can be seriously hot and better craic than most others!
- We DEFINITELY have the best quality of pint.
- Limerick, for me, is the best place in the world when it comes to sport, either watching it or playing it and nothing beats a good heineken cup match in Thomond Park
- Wages, well in my area of work are much better in Ireland than anywhere else except California.

Agree with almost all of what you said apart from Thomond Park (gimme Croker anyday :pac: ) and the wages. :pac:

bennyineire · 22-02-2014 01:21AM

Yep our weather is crap subjectively but look at the good points of our weather and geological state, no earthquakes,no snake, no venomous spiders, no tornado's, no life threatening floods (yes we had bad floods this winter but no one died) no life threatening heat waves, no life threatening cold weather, no droughts.

Yep our weather is pretty drab and boring but on the whole and in a balanced way (believe it or not) it is one of the best weather systems in the world.

We will always have fertile land and plenty of water and we won't have to worry about that unlike some of the supposed "Greatest Countries in the world", do you think the Aussie's and Merican's have the same security we have in regards to future water and food.

Sure we have out problems just like any country in the world and I've done my fair share of traveling (as many an Irish person has) but I wouldn't bring my kids up anywhere else up in the world than where I'm right it now. Which BTW is about 5 miles outside my county town, yep and I know some people give of out about small minded country folk but what I say is surround yourself by like minded people who are progressive thinking (yes there are plenty of us) and ignore and forget about the begrudders and religouse fanatics who talk behind your back.

And you what if they do talk about ya,wow gives a funk, I still love Ireland and my friends and family and I defy you to name me a better country without its problems.

Cantremember · 22-02-2014 01:25AM

We don't. We hate ***** who have for generations enslaved people to drink, the church, the politicians, the banks etc etc

pragmatic1 · 22-02-2014 01:27AM

It's nowhere near the worst, but it is shyte. When you add bad weather, bad services, self serving governments/civil service and the conservative nature of the majority, it's fairly grim.

jank · 22-02-2014 09:02AM

Irish people hate Ireland so much because they are massively insecure. Anyone who gets too big for their boots is shot down more often than not. In one sense it means that we are not a serious people, have humility and that we can look at the humour and funny side of many things. The pub culture is an example of people just going for pints, chewing the fat and so on. People from all classes of life in Ireland go to the pub. Dock workers, teachers, lawyers, Guards, business men, politicians and people who basically run the country. This doesn't really happen in other countries. In one sense this non seriousness of the people is a great leveller. However, we don't take things that actually matter seriously so we become the Real Madrid of moaning and the Yeovil Town of actually doing something about our situation whatever that may be. No place like it though and I don't think I wish I could be from any other country.

playedalive · 22-02-2014 10:25AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The Youth are been (without directly asked) to get the **** out, Oz, New

Totally agree. Like it is so hard in Ireland to get experience in ANY job and nowhere will hire you unless you have x amount of work experience. Then, if you have a degree, they can tell you you're overqualified/not relevant at all. Don't get me even started on small Island nepotism. The employer's market completely screws young people over. Realistically my future is in another country for the foreseeable future. The only thing that keeps me here is family and a couple of friends.

In fairness to Ireland though, I have been given a reasonably great education from schools and university (despite not liking my course). It did round me with a good view/head for life. I can never take that away from the place. Also social welfare can be reasonable (depending on your circumstances and crappy civil servants who, in a narrow minded, treat you like dirt for not having a job)

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-02-2014 11:20AM

jank wrote: »

Irish people hate Ireland so much because they are massively insecure. Anyone who gets too big for their boots is shot down more often than not. In one sense it means that we are not a serious people, have humility and that we can look at the humour and funny side of many things. The pub culture is an example of people just going for pints, chewing the fat and so on. People from all classes of life in Ireland go to the pub. Dock workers, teachers, lawyers, Guards, business men, politicians and people who basically run the country. This doesn't really happen in other countries. In one sense this non seriousness of the people is a great leveller. However, we don't take things that actually matter seriously so we become the Real Madrid of moaning and the Yeovil Town of actually doing something about our situation whatever that may be. No place like it though and I don't think I wish I could be from any other country.

I wonder at times does the country suffer from collective inferiority complex, a post colonial hangover maybe? We don't like anybody criticising us, we shout them down and insult whatever country they may be from as a defence tactic.

We are an insignificant island in the North Atlantic and not big players in world affairs but we're still great craic. The court Jesters of the world. :rolleyes:

The French and the Italians are proud of their countries and they don't give a fcuk about what anybody thinks of them. They're secure in their identity, that's how I want us to be.

Like Dogs we always seem to seek approval especially from the likes of the USA, our big buddies. Terms like Potato N!gger and White N!gger are still widely used in US city's, we're not as loved as we think we are over there.

Femme_Fatale · 22-02-2014 03:27PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

We are an insignificant island in the North Atlantic and not big players in world affairs but we're still great craic. The court Jesters of the world. :rolleyes:

Well that's balanced out by the endless self flagellation. I do not know of a nationality as critical of itself as Irish people, even though there's ironically the cringey backslapping stuff too. Both kinda the same thing I guess: an obsession with how others view "us".

karaokeman · 22-02-2014 03:31PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Am I the only person that likes the miserable weather.

No, I get sick of everything. Too much rain hitters me, but only as much as too much sunshine. I need to see the right balance.

MRnotlob606 · 24-02-2014 08:28AM

We Actually have it fine and we were voted 10th Happiest country in the world which is pretty good out of 195 recognized countries

24-02-2014 09:26AM

I love Ireland. I love the beauty of it, I love the people. I love that you can talk to almost anyone and they'll talk back. There's very little I don't like about it. The weather doesn't bother me, rain is rain, I'm well used to it my now and sure it makes me appreciate the sunshine all the more! My biggest gripe with the weather is folk who don't know how to use the lights in their car appropriately

I think there are some who can be blind to how good a country Ireland is. Is it perfect? No, but there are few places that are. I love travelling, love seeing new things, new cultures and new places. Ireland is where I belong though, I fit here and I'll always return here.

Why do Irish people hate their country so much?

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