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Neknomination ***MOD WARNING FIRST POST***

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  • Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The hysteria about this is getting ridicules now.

    It started before the weekend when people started making anti-neknomination videos.
    Basically all you'll see on FB now is some hipster doing some other variation, fair play to them but it's getting old in itself now.

    Now we have reports on RTE radio and Joe Duffy along with ''stop the chain'' campaigns in college.

    It seems the point is being missed entirely again in the mainstream.

    The problem isn't the neknomination, it's the clowns taking it too far.
    It's similar to when a kid goes on a rampage in the US, lets blame the computer games he was playing or the rock music he was listening to.
    Seems society is always missing the real culprit... the individual.

    If some muppet wants to down a litre of vodka, or jump off a bridge for his neknomination, then you can be sure that at some other point that same stupidity will come to the fore.
    The craze isn't making them do such things, it's their feeble mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    You still haven't explained on what basis it should be banned. What laws are being broken?

    The laws regarding broadcasting misuse if alcohol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,214 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    efb wrote: »
    We need to protect out most vulnerable citizens

    Or round them up and place them in a safe facility while the adults get on with it. The Labour party and their Jaysis banning, grrrrr... :mad:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    efb wrote: »
    The laws regarding broadcasting misuse if alcohol

    Which laws?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Which laws?

    There are laws regarding how alcohol use can be broadcast on tv this needs to be extended to the internet to protect our vulnerable citizens


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Or round them up and place them in a safe facility while the adults get on with it. The Labour party and their Jaysis banning, grrrrr... :mad:

    Get on with what? Stupid drinking games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,214 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    efb wrote: »
    Get on with what? Stupid drinking games

    Get on with whatever we like without getting bogged down in endless debates with Leftie window-lickers about what should be banned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Get on with whatever we like without getting bogged down in endless debates with Leftie window-lickers about what should be banned.

    Quite


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    OF COURSE people had to go and die doing this. How utterly predictable in this day and age


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    efb wrote: »
    So the videos should be allowed?

    If Neknomination videos were to be banned on the internet then what would prevent the likes of the Iona Institute to attempt to get the likes of Rory O'Niell's speech banned on the internet?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    this makes me pine for the harlem shake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Disagree they should be banned - feel rather uneasy about thought of such censorship
    jimgoose wrote: »
    Get on with whatever we like without getting bogged down in endless debates with Leftie window-lickers about what should be banned.

    What a dicky comment :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭papu


    efb wrote: »
    There are laws regarding how alcohol use can be broadcast on tv this needs to be extended to the internet to protect our vulnerable citizens

    no , no , no.

    If they can drink legally , they are held as adults in the eyes of the law , as such they need utilize some common sense and not take unnecessary risks .

    Some people can't be trusted with a bendy straw , doesn't mean we should ban bendy straws.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,214 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    wprathead wrote: »
    ...What a dicky comment :rolleyes:

    Pity 'bout you. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    P_1 wrote: »
    If Neknomination videos were to be banned on the internet then what would prevent the likes of the Iona Institute to attempt to get the likes of Rory O'Niell's speech banned on the internet?

    If People are dying they might have a point


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    papu wrote: »
    no , no , no.

    If they can drink legally , they are held as adults in the eyes of the law , as such they need utilize some common sense and not take unnecessary risks .

    Some people can't be trusted with a bendy straw , doesn't mean we should ban bendy straws.


    If enough people died yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭papu


    efb wrote: »
    If enough people died yes

    What merits enough? what number?

    15 people have died in the bull run so far , should we ban that too? Running down a narrow street with a bunch of angry bulls is about as appealing to me as downing a litre of spirits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Mr Jinx


    If someone does a nekmonination, how long after they do it can it be blamed if they die?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    efb wrote: »
    If enough people died yes

    I'm sorry but you can't encourage censorship/banning on one issue and rally against it on another.

    I'd imagine that people used the 'it kills people' argument in relation to HIV and the LBGT community in the debates surrounding the decriminilisation of homosexuality back in the 60's/70's/80's/90's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    smoking kills a lot of people too, they might want to think about banning that first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Is it peer pressure or attention seeking? I would have to say a bit of both. You do the neknomination because you were nominated, you feel like you have to do it.
    The escalation of things comes down to attention seeking. If you do something 'cool' you will get all the likes and attention on FB. You want to be seen as the man for your extraordinary neknomnation.

    I wonder if the people that started this will be sued or something? I think that would be an outrage but you never know.

    Also the spelling really annoys me. Why no 'c' in neck?
    :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 149 ✭✭Chris The Hacker


    efb wrote: »
    If enough people died yes

    People have died in car accidents.

    I KNOW, LET'S BAN CARS!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    efb wrote: »
    If enough people died yes

    Didn't whiskey kill one fella and a river the other. Why stop at banning videos?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Dr Robotnik


    Education is the key.

    I can't see censorship having any impact on the fad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    efb wrote: »
    A retard that sees the peer pressure that happens form this muck

    People are dead this needs to stop

    So neknominations caused his death?

    Can we not blame the river or something instead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭BlurstMonkey


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    Didn't whiskey kill one fella and a river the other. Why stop at banning videos?

    Captain Morgans is not whiskey, it's piss flavoured rum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    Banning a video is a surface level tactic. It doesn't effectuate long-term change or impact individual beliefs which is what is truly needed. Instead, it has to be a cultural shift.

    Let's consider smoking. Speaking to what happened in the US, it began with banning commercials and limiting paper ads. That was a surface level tactic. Then there was implementation of laws that restricted smoking areas then anti-smoking campaigns that informed people of health risks and so on. It's now to the point that people are looked at differently when it's discovered that they smoke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Absolutely devastated to hear about Ross :(
    Such a tragedy, I still can't believe it.

    Terrible about that Carlow lad as well obviously.

    I'm glad so many people seem to have stopped posting these videos now at least. I hope I never see another one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    efb wrote: »
    We need to protect out most vulnerable citizens

    There are ways of doing that without impinging in everyone else's most basic human rights, such as freedom of expression.


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  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    efb wrote: »
    There are laws regarding how alcohol use can be broadcast on tv this needs to be extended to the internet to protect our vulnerable citizens

    Why stop there? You better ban all the American Pie movies, The Hangover movies, Old School...

    In fact lets just ban everything and become Amish right now. Wanna raise a barn efb?


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