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Iona vs Panti

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  • #152
    diddlybit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    i'm starting to really hate the term "Liberal" and especially "liberal agenda"


    You left out the liberal fascists!


  • #153
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    I've been meaning to ask: How exactly is liberal fascism supposed to work?


  • #154
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Sarky wrote: »
    I've been meaning to ask: How exactly is liberal fascism supposed to work?
    when you say "i f**ing want equal rights for all nooooowwwwwww"


  • #155
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Sarky wrote: »
    I've been meaning to ask: How exactly is liberal fascism supposed to work?

    Like militant atheism.


  • #156
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Sarky wrote: »
    I've been meaning to ask: How exactly is liberal fascism supposed to work?


    'You will now all be gay or be taken out and shot'


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  • #157
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Oh. So mostly pub-time then.


  • #158
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Nodin wrote: »
    'You will now all be gay or be taken out and shot'

    No, I think you'll find that's the homosexual agenda.


  • #159
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Sarky wrote: »
    How exactly is liberal fascism supposed to work?
    Far as I can make out from Popette and Alive, it seems that "liberal fascism" is what happens when you try to roll back religious privilege, stop tolerating religious prejudice, that kind of thing.


  • #160
    oceanclub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    Anyone annoyed that an RTE discussion on the state's involvement in education should give undue preference (2/4 people) to a Catholic minority group should complain to complaints@rte.ie.

    P.


  • #161
    diddlybit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    i'm still waiting for my first complaint to be answered.


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  • #162
    Bannasidhe
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    lazygal wrote: »
    No, I think you'll find that's the homosexual agenda.

    Noooo - The Homosexual Agenda is (male version) 'You will all be taken out and restyled or shot' and/or (female version) 'You will put up shelves and they will be sturdy and straight or you will be shot with a nail gun I got in Lidl/Aldi for tree fiddy.'


  • #163
    Links234
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    Sarky wrote: »
    That's the same Jim Walsh who complained about how he can no longer call gay people "fairies", isn't it?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Walsh_(politician)#Views

    He's my girlfriend's home grown nutcase, herself being from Wexy, and he even mentioned her in one of his rants before about "persons known to be homosexual" leading a hate campaign against him :pac:


  • #164
    diddlybit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    Links234 wrote: »
    He's my girlfriend's home grown nutcase, herself being from Wexy, and he even mentioned her in one of his rants before about "persons known to be homosexual" leading a hate campaign against him :pac:


    So they're good friends, right?

    *Seriously though, what an assh*le to even vaguely refer to her?


  • #165
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    But he's totes not a homophobe, right?


  • #166
    diddlybit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    I bet some of his best friends are gay


  • #167
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    diddlybit wrote: »
    I bet some of his best friends are gay
    At this stage, I'm beginning to wonder about him:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

    Next time he started homofabulating, somebody should watch his trousers.


  • #168
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Its the same "will somebody think of the children" crazy argument put forward when it came to divorce in Ireland.

    People claimed it would bring the downfall of society, it didn't.

    Rather selfish to not think of the children.

    Study: Children Of Divorced Parents Are More Likely To Be Unhappy And Feel Unfulfilled

    http://elitedaily.com/news/world/study-children-of-divorced-parents-are-more-likely-to-be-unhappy-and-feel-unfulfilled/


    Children Of Divorced Parents Are More Likely To End Their Own Marriages

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/26714.php


    United States: Studies Show Children of Divorce Struggle with Relationships as Adults

    http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x/253612/divorce/Studies+Show+Children+of+Divorce+Struggle+with+Relationships+as+Adults


    Children of divorced parents more likely to start smoking, study finds

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130314110251.htm


    Kids Of Divorce And Suicide: New Study Shows Link

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/24/divorce-and-suicidal-idea_n_812456.html


    etc

    Broken home children are 'five times more likely to suffer mental troubles'

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1079510/Children-broken-homes-times-likely-suffer-mental-troubles-says-Government-study.html#ixzz2rtxluWvP


  • #169
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Penncil Dick wrote: »
    With respect, the wording of your posts has an undertone of distain for the person in question. That may not have been your intention and I wouldn't begin to suggest it was, but that's how it came across to a lot of people, myself included, as indicated by this post and the number of thanks it received (implying that people agreed with it)

    This guy Rory is a drag queen so what is the problem with referring to this fact?

    Replace "drag queen" with "Big Brother contestant" in everything I said and tell me if you still have a problem. Why/Why not?

    If describing a public person by the reason they are public at all supposedly has undertones of homophobia I am glad this thing with Waters has happened to make people think twice about making false allegations again in public.


  • #170
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Rather selfish to not think of the children.

    :rolleyes:
    Even more selfish to not think of women,

    I know a women who met a man in the 1950's, it was great at first but then the day after they got married she said something to him in the car that he didn't like and her new husband punched her in the face,

    She endured years of abuse at the hands of the man she married, she received no support from priests and none from society at the time either...because of the catholic instilled view of marriage.

    Eventually she was able to leave him as times thankfully changed,

    Marriage back then made for better or worse and it didn't matter if worse was having seven shades of ****e beaten out of you,

    Its like the abortion debate when it comes to people like you bb, lets think of the children but to hell with the women (or man, lets not forget men can be abused in a relationship as well).

    Its no good keeping a relationship together for the sake of the children if both partys in the relationship hate each other, you honestly think that hatred won't affect the children? Seriously whats wrong with you?


  • #171
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    This guy Rory is a drag queen so what is the problem with referring to this fact?

    Replace "drag queen" with "Big Brother contestant" in everything I said and tell me if you still have a problem. Why/Why not?

    If describing a public person by the reason they are public at all supposedly has undertones of homophobia I am glad this thing with Waters has happened to make people think twice about making false allegations again in public.

    Great so from now on you'll also be saying "The Iona people" and "the chap that works for the Irish times"?

    We'll all know who your on about and if you can't be arsed to use Rory's name I assume you can't be arsed to use anyone elses?


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  • #172
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,029 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Rather selfish to not think of the children.
    As someone who had their parents go through a divorce, I say thank you to all those that supported their right to end their toxic relationship.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #173
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Brown Bomber wrote: »

    Though thanks for sharing his name, Rory it is from now on.

    I said this only 5 hours ago.


  • #174
    diddlybit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    This guy Rory is a drag queen so what is the problem with referring to this fact?

    Replace "drag queen" with "Big Brother contestant" in everything I said and tell me if you still have a problem. Why/Why not?

    If describing a public person by the reason they are public at all supposedly has undertones of homophobia I am glad this thing with Waters has happened to make people think twice about making false allegations again in public.


    I think this issue was answered way, way back in this post

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=88741267&postcount=117


  • #175
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,596 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Replace "drag queen" with "Big Brother contestant" in everything I said and tell me if you still have a problem. Why/Why not?

    False equivalence.

    You had already been told what his name was in this post which you responded to. Not only that, but your quote "nor do I care what drag queens say on what looks like an awful tv program" makes it sound like you're being dismissive of this man's opinions based on the fact that he is a drag queen, as opposed to being a gay man who is a popular and well-liked figure in the gay community on a TV show where in the section of the interview in question, he was talking about issues relating to gay people. Dismissing his extremely valuable and knowledgeable opinion based on the fact that he is a drag queen is why people took issue with how your posts were worded.

    Do you always refer to people by their occupation or hobby? In both a post you quoted and responded to, and the title of this thread, you had two names by which to refer to this person; Rory or Panti. You chose "drag queen". You weren't "referring to him by this fact", you were reducing him down to it as if being a drag queen is his only identity. If you can't see how that displays a dismissive and condescending attitude, you're doomed to repeat the same mistakes.


  • #176
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    This guy Rory is a drag queen so what is the problem with referring to this fact?

    Replace "drag queen" with "Big Brother contestant" in everything I said and tell me if you still have a problem. Why/Why not?

    If describing a public person by the reason they are public at all supposedly has undertones of homophobia I am glad this thing with Waters has happened to make people think twice about making false allegations again in public.

    http://collegetribune.ie/index.php/2012/08/gay-marriage-is-a-product-of-this-bunker-mentality/

    If those aren't the words of a homophobic person, I have entered some bizarre opposite world. Describing a conspiracy of gay people that don't wish to destroy the fabric of society are the words of a person with an irrational (homophobic) fear of gay people.


  • #177
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Cabaal wrote: »
    :rolleyes:
    Even more selfish to not think of women,

    I know a women who met a man in the 1950's, it was great at first but then the day after they got married she said something to him in the car that he didn't like and her new husband punched her in the face,

    She endured years of abuse at the hands of the man she married, she received no support from priests and none from society at the time either...because of the catholic instilled view of marriage.

    Eventually she was able to leave him as times thankfully changed,

    Marriage back then made for better or worse and it didn't matter if worse was having seven shades of ****e beaten out of you,

    Its like the abortion debate when it comes to people like you bb, lets think of the children but to hell with the women (or man, lets not forget men can be abused in a relationship as well).

    Its no good keeping a relationship together for the sake of the children if both partys in the relationship hate each other, you honestly think that hatred won't affect the children? Seriously whats wrong with you?
    Ah, more personal abuse I see.

    You've made a few giant leaps. I said it is selfish to not think of your children due the damage and you've leaped into a ridiculous strawman without even acknowledging that children can be innocent victims of consequence with divorce.


  • #178
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    This guy Rory is a drag queen so what is the problem with referring to this fact?
    You know exactly what you're doing and -- as earlier today -- you're fooling nobody with your faux "Who, me?" act.

    If you refer to Rory again as a drag queen, or anything other than his full name, you will be banned. Likewise for any more posts that are inflammatory or hostile in the opinion of any of the mods. Like your immediately previous post, for example.

    This, lest you try a "Who, me?" with respect to this warning, comes at the end of a long, long series of public and private warnings about your use of objectionable and hostile language.


  • #179
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Ah, more personal abuse I see.

    If you think its personal abuse then report it and stop your nonsense claiming it in posts...it looks seriously silly, your only looking for attention now.


  • #180
    MrPudding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Cabaal wrote: »
    If you think its personal abuse then report it and stop your nonsense claiming it in posts...it looks seriously silly, your only looking for attention now.

    I for one can't wait for his next dispute resolution thread. I love them.

    MrP


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  • #181
    Cabaal
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    At this stage I suppose Iona have to ask themselves, have they do more harm to their image then good due to their actions.

    My take, they've done more harm.

    Had they done nothing the interview would have not been mentioned again a week later and that would have been it,

    Now due to their actions its gotten widespread coverage in the media, td's have picked it up and Iona are seen as the big bad bully taking money from the tax payer (rte).

    Most sane minded people view their views as not the social norm and they are certainly not in keeping with the majority of 20-40 year olds (the future old people in Ireland).

    Ultimately they've lost what is no doubt the first of many skirmishes that will take place around gay people and gay marriage rights in the coming year,


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