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I Need To Lose Weight

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Vision of Disorder


    thecatspjs wrote: »
    A whole sliced pan? What is your poo like? I bet it's weird. That is an impressive amount of bread consumption.

    It seems normal to me (neither particularly hard or soft, dry or wet) but, to be completely fair, I have very little basis for comparison. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    I had no idea I needed to lose weight until AH educated me that as an Irish female I am, by default, an obese minger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭carraig2


    Katgurl wrote: »
    I had no idea I needed to lose weight until AH educated me that as an Irish female I am, by default, an obese minger.

    How did they do that


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    White bread is shít. May as well be eating bowls of sugar(and salt. Give up bread for a year and then have a slice, you may find, as I did it's remarkably salty). Most brown bread isn't that much better BTW. Still a large simple carb load, just with extra roughage and nutrients, so better than the white. Irish people have a larger than average number of people allergic to gluten(coeliacs), so if you're one of them... Though coeliacs are usually underweight as the condition screws up absorption.

    Portion control is the biggie. Basically people tend to eat too much and more than their bodies actually require to thrive. Buy smaller plates. Yep sounds daft, but it does work. A good mate of mine did that and him and his missus had the weight fall off(though in fairness neither were exactly overly portly to start with).

    Exercise is brilliant, but walking and the like isn't that great when you look at the figures. It takes one helluva long walk to burn off the actual calories* from a big mac. Exercise that builds muscle is the way to go. Muscle is very calorie greedy. Just sitting there doing nothing it's chewing up calories. Ask any dedicated bodybuilder how much food he(or she) needs to consume to keep the muscles at their best.

    Hunger pangs can often be confused with other stuff. It may be boredom, anxiety, habit often enough simple thirst. Try having a cup of tea/coffee when you feel "hungry", wait ten minutes and see if you're still hungry. The tyranny of modern life and set regular meals, kids told to "eat all on the plate" adds to all this. IMH too many folks eat when they expect to eat, not when they're actually hungry. Indeed very few people in the west have experience of true hunger, more often than not it's a blood sugar drop. A healthy man or woman should be able to not eat for a day with no real stress. IMH if someone can't go a day without food there's something amiss with their systems.

    Avoid processed food. That stuff is laden with bad fats, sugar and other ingredients purposely designed to trigger very deep needs within our animal brain**. It makes for more profit. Avoid most "low fat" foods too. Fat, good fats, are not the enemy, the sugars are and check out the labels on "low fat" foods and count up the sugars involved.

    Go for high nutrient foods. The better bang for your buck. EG eggs. Full of nutrients, but low in calories for the nutrients received. Bread/pasta/rice/etc on the other hand has the ratio go completely the other way. Berries, nuts, some fruit and veg, some meats... you get the picture. A steak has a shedload more nutrients per mouthful than a shedload of other foods.

    If you're not a problem drinker, then a glass(even two:eek:)of red vino with your evening meal will help.

    Increase variety in your foods. An easy way to do this is with colour. If your food is mostly beige you're fooked. Turn up the colour dial. The more colours the better.

    Forget the bathroom scales. The bathroom mirror will give a much better appraisal, as will your clothes.




    Completely personal opinion and all that, but at 47 I am the exact same clothes size I was at 19 and pretty much never varied in the interim so in one sense I am walking the walk as well as talking the talk.






    *calories are a vague term. A neat vodka is very high in calories(cos it burns like petrol), but unless you're Irishman 2.0, no way can your body metabolise those "calories" into fat.

    ** these ingredients selected by the food industry to make us come back for more are rare in nature, hence we sought them out. White sugar? The natural equivalent would be something like honey and that was hard to find and seasonal. Today that idea of rare is gone, we have a smorgasbord of such delights in every supermarket, but our monkey brain has yet to catch up in recognising the inherent dangers. Put it this way diabetes is pretty much unknown among hunter gatherer folks(type 2 and 1), coronary disease is rare too.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Links234 wrote: »
    Serious answer? Cut out bread, try not to snack during the day, and do some walking every day. Doesn't have to be far, but getting in a little walk every day will help.

    Its almost impossible to feel full without bread, well apart from dinner time when you can load up the plate with spuds, rice or pasta.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Wibbsus, we are not worthy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Don't eat anything white, or anything that could be.

    I.E. Bread, pasta, rice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭carraig2


    Wise
    Insightful
    Brainy
    Brilliant
    Sensible

    Wibbs, you are the man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭e.r


    When ordering mc Donald's ask for a diet coke ðŸ˜


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    Get a stronger chair OP ;)



    But seriously 10 slices of bread a day does seem excessive,anyway good luck with the weight loss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    woodoo wrote: »
    Its almost impossible to feel full without bread, well apart from dinner time when you can load up the plate with spuds, rice or pasta.

    no it isn't. I rarely eat bread

    also, can't stand big piles of mash, etc. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    10 slices is very excessive, cut it back to maybe 4 just for your lunch. Have a cereal for brekkie. I posted my story on another AH weight loss thread a while back.

    As a slim looking bloke in his 30's I had a beer belly protruding which was at least 1.5 stone overweight and it bothered me. Over about a 4 month period last summer I lost a stone thru changing eating habits and exercise(cycling and walking), I never went near a gym. During weight loss, I had my treats like ice cream, crisps, choc and my beer, thing is I kept my intake of food regular noting a mental calorie intake to get a daily routine and choosing "medium fat" foods instead of high\low fat to get a balance for the long term and i've felt full every day without the hunger panes for extra food.

    Then as planned I got lazy for the winter and yet managed to keep my new weight stable since about Sept due to keeping my food intake routine and that was without even thinking about it!.
    Most days i've had a brown roll with nice veg for lunches. You can eat bread regularly(look at the French!), thing is here we do eat the wrong foods as well, avoid white bread though as said. By the way, soups, coffee, cappuccino's(within size limits) are excellent for fighting false hunger panes.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    woodoo wrote: »
    Its almost impossible to feel full without bread, well apart from dinner time when you can load up the plate with spuds, rice or pasta.
    Ehhhhhhhhhhh. No. Just no. Bread, rice, pasta(bread by any other name) is pretty much "empty" calories. Grand if you're a marathon runner or the like, who is gonna need that for basic fuel, but if you're a sedentary cubicle dweller, then no, you don't need to be eating that stuff.
    carraig2 wrote: »
    Wise
    Insightful
    Brainy
    Brilliant
    Sensible

    Wibbs, you are the man
    You forgot sexeh. I'll let it slip C2... This time. Just this time. You just can't get the staff these days, even with paypal.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭snowbabe


    Ahh now i know my problem:) its the french side of the family with the bread,but they dont lather on the butter too , or the brie on top of the dam butter :):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    carraig2 wrote: »
    I start 2 threads in 3 days and I am a troll and an attention seeker?
    Is that how it works?

    You give off a certain vibe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Wait. Did you lose 20 kilos or 20 stone?

    Ha.....bloody typo, now corrected, thank you.

    20 kilos!

    Thankfully never had 20 stone to lose!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,527 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Me? wrote: »
    Push the plate away and get some exercise. Also fix the chair.

    Awful advice. Change whats on the plate is key. More so than exercise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    I am embracing the "eat less, exercise more" option and have lost ~7 kg in a few weeks. I have more to lose but I have cut out fizzy drinks / crisps / chocolate and watching what ingredients I'm putting into dinners (swapping cream with creme fraiche, low fat cheese etc) and increasing physical activity and I don't even miss the junk food!


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    One slice of the little square toasting bread is 85kcal. The bigger one is over 100kcal and the proper big one is around 120kcal. 10 of any of them is pretty much half your calories for a day, just in bread.

    Best way to approach it is to basically eliminate carbs. At least have that as a guideline, don't feel guilty about some turnip. :pac: Look up what a "portion" of spaghetti or rice actually is and see how much you've been overeating. Think about that big plate of pasta with a jar of red sugar-water poured over it. Think about how hungry you are 3 hours afterwards.


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