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2 Gardai force man in to Garda van

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  • #32
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    pappyodaniel wrote: »
    Bald Gard used that baton like a boss....real smooth and natural, kinda like he's used it before.


    I'd say by the accent he spent more than one day hanging around/working in a cattle mart as a young fella. That's where he got that smooth practiced move. Just the right amount of lean back too in case a kick comes in his direction as well.


  • #33
    errlloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    ****ing disgrace, this sort of brutality makes me so angry. How our local politicians don't step up and do something. The image is bad, it reeks of corruption and power hunger. It makes me feel unsafe and uneasy walking the streets. I just don't understand why the **** the cobbles on one footpath don't match the other side of the road. It makes me ****ing furious. Obviously some local politician lives on the left side. Bullsh!t.


  • #34
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    **** cobbles. They're **** for people in wheelchairs.


  • #35
    Sir Arthur Daley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    You need the Healy Raes here to make sure both pavements are the same.


  • #36
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    I'm glad the discussion has moved onto something important.


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  • #37
    Sir Arthur Daley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    The paving is well layed in fairness.


  • #38
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Axidium wrote: »
    And he would learn his lesson. Calm is the problem. No one is going to fear a calm person. Police should be feared. They are there to protect the law. He broke the law and deserves punishment.

    The day I fear people who are supposed to uphold the law is the day I fight them, because they've gotten to a point where it's tyrannically done.

    They are there to UPHOLD the law and protect people.

    Also, he allegedly broke the law. There's no evidence of him committing a crime :)

    That said, I don't see much issue with what they did except for the garda wearing the hi-vis slamming the gate pretty hard on his legs straight off the bat. That was a bit uncalled for but looked like it hit the fat of his shoes more than anything.


  • #39
    Sir Arthur Daley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    At 1:42 in the clip he got a nice surprise.


  • #40
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Gardai showed remarkable patience and restraint tbh. If that had taken place in other countries, like Germany, UK, Spain, Netherlands or the US, the guy would have received far more "encouragement" to get in the van.


  • #41
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    Nothing wrong with it at all. A little light slap across the toes and he still didn't cop on, so he got another until he moved.
    Proper order.


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  • #42
    Pacing Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    He probably spoke Irish to them too at some point.


  • #43
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Axidium wrote: »
    Oh and just to clarify. I think the Gards should of been even more harsh.

    They used reasonable and proportionate force, any more than that and they would be guilty of assault.
    I think they handled it very well, they have a tough job to do and in this case did it well.


  • #44
    Seedy Arling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭Seedy Arling


    The gardai looked like they were taking their time and being patient with him. Seemed like very 'controlled' swings of the baton too.

    Man handling someone can be a very risky business, just in terms of biting, scratching even the manual handling side of it I'm sure. No harm in giving him a bit of a tap for encouragement.


  • #45
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,078 ✭✭✭✭josip


    1.40 - Red Head looks around before taking out the baton to see if there's anyone coming.
    1.41 - Decides not to take out baton and turns around again.
    1.41 - Shiny head already has his baton out using it.
    1.42 - Red head has a quiet word with shiny head to tell him to lay off.
    1.45 - Reason for red head not taking out baton and telling shiny head to lay off walks by.
    1.49 - Red head and shiny head check again to see if anyone is coming before resuming batoning.

    The Guards don't have an easy job to do, but from their own body langauage it's easy to see that these two knew they were doing something (batoning) that they shouldn't be doing.

    Will any action be taken over this? I doubt it.


  • #46
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    josip wrote: »
    1.40 - Red Head looks around before taking out the baton to see if there's anyone coming.
    1.41 - Decides not to take out baton and turns around again.
    1.41 - Shiny head already has his baton out using it.
    1.42 - Red head has a quiet word with shiny head to tell him to lay off.
    1.45 - Reason for red head not taking out baton and telling shiny head to lay off walks by.
    1.49 - Red head and shiny head check again to see if anyone is coming before resuming batoning.

    The Guards don't have an easy job to do, but from their own body langauage it's easy to see that these two knew they were doing something (batoning) that they shouldn't be doing.

    Will any action be taken over this? I doubt it.

    There's always one.......


  • #47
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    they should have tickled him into the van - sure everyone knows that


  • #48
    DwightSchrute1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭DwightSchrute1


    josip wrote: »
    1.40 - Red Head looks around before taking out the baton to see if there's anyone coming.
    1.41 - Decides not to take out baton and turns around again.
    1.41 - Shiny head already has his baton out using it.
    1.42 - Red head has a quiet word with shiny head to tell him to lay off.
    1.45 - Reason for red head not taking out baton and telling shiny head to lay off walks by.
    1.49 - Red head and shiny head check again to see if anyone is coming before resuming batoning.

    The Guards don't have an easy job to do, but from their own body langauage it's easy to see that these two knew they were doing something (batoning) that they shouldn't be doing.

    Will any action be taken over this? I doubt it.

    Action taken over what exactly?


  • #49
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,078 ✭✭✭✭josip


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    There's always one.......

    Happy to be the one.

    I don't think this warrants any more than the sergeant having a word with them and telling them to try a bit longer to get the lad's legs in the next time.

    They'll probably just tell shiny head to check for passers by before taking out the baton in future.


  • #50
    DwightSchrute1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭DwightSchrute1


    josip wrote: »
    Happy to be the one.

    I don't think this warrants any more than the sergeant having a word with them and telling them to try a bit longer to get the lad's legs in the next time.

    They'll probably just tell shiny head to check for passers by before taking out the baton in future.

    If they tried a bit longer and the male still hadn't put his legs in, then hit him with the baton, you would still be on here complaining. You hardly expect the Gaurds to wait around all day until the arrested man decides to put his feet in the door.


  • #51
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    josip wrote: »
    Happy to be the one.

    I don't think this warrants any more than the sergeant having a word with them and telling them to try a bit longer to get the lad's legs in the next time.

    They'll probably just tell shiny head to check for passers by before taking out the baton in future.

    You're what's wrong with this country.


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  • #52
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,078 ✭✭✭✭josip


    DwightSchrute1 wrote: »
    If they tried a bit longer and the male still hadn't put his legs in, then hit him with the baton, you would still be on here complaining. You hardly expect the Gaurds to wait around all day until the arrested man decides to put his feet in the door.
    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    You're what's wrong with this country.

    The Guards know better than you or me what's the appropriate response for this situation.

    If they felt that what they were doing was correct, why did red head check behind him before taking out his baton?
    Why did he tell shiny head to stop when he saw someone coming?
    Why did they wait until the guy had passed before resuming batoning.

    They know. Not you or me. We just have our opinions


  • #53
    Seedy Arling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭Seedy Arling


    josip wrote: »
    The Guards know better than you or me what's the appropriate response for this situation.

    If they felt that what they were doing was correct, why did red head check behind him before taking out his baton?
    Why did he tell shiny head to stop when he saw someone coming?
    Why did they wait until the guy had passed before resuming batoning.

    They know. Not you or me. We just have our opinions
    You sort of answered your own questions there. What they did was probably appropriate for the situation, it just takes one keyboard cowboy to come along and put a different slant on it for whatever crack pot agenda they are pursuing.


  • #54
    DwightSchrute1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭DwightSchrute1


    josip wrote: »
    The Guards know better than you or me what's the appropriate response for this situation.

    If they felt that what they were doing was correct, why did red head check behind him before taking out his baton?
    Why did he tell shiny head to stop when he saw someone coming?
    Why did they wait until the guy had passed before resuming batoning.

    They know. Not you or me. We just have our opinions

    You must be watching a different video. Where does it show one garda telling the other to stop? Also "red head" doesn't take out his baton at all.


  • #55
    Seedy Arling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭Seedy Arling


    DwightSchrute1 wrote: »
    You must be watching a different video. Where does it show one garda telling the other to stop? Also "red head" doesn't take out his baton at all.
    He's an expert at X-ray lip reading.


  • #56
    Seedy Arling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭Seedy Arling


    This isnt about civil liberties or living in a nazi state, it's about somebody being drunk and disorderly and not following the instruction of a garda. The guy should have gotten the batton the minute he resisted.


  • #57
    Shady Tady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Shady Tady


    Axidium wrote: »
    Maybe this was discussed before. Not sure. If it was please direct me to the thread.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp0PclrLZeA

    Thoughts on this?

    Is that you being put in the van?


  • #58
    DwightSchrute1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭DwightSchrute1


    Seedy Arling wrote: »
    He's an expert at X-ray lip reading.

    Also an expert in body language. Who knew that a guard turning around was a sign of guilt!


  • #59
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,078 ✭✭✭✭josip


    DwightSchrute1 wrote: »
    You must be watching a different video. Where does it show one garda telling the other to stop? Also "red head" doesn't take out his baton at all.

    At 1.42
    Yes, red head reached for his baton and then when he saw the person approaching decided not to.
    Seedy Arling wrote: »
    He's an expert at X-ray lip reading.

    I am extremely deaf and do lip read, but I haven't completed the X-ray semester yet.
    When you don't hear much you tend to observe more and learn what body language is saying.


  • #60
    bmaxi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭bmaxi


    Strange how so many people can say the guy should have been battered into the van but nobody has said what it was he had done to deserve it. Probably hadn't paid his property tax.


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  • #61
    Gambas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Gambas


    bmaxi wrote: »
    Strange how so many people can say the guy should have been battered into the van but nobody has said what it was he had done to deserve it. Probably hadn't paid his property tax.

    Did you miss all the 'resisting arrest' posts?


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