2 Gardai force man in to Garda van

Axidium

Maybe this was discussed before. Not sure. If it was please direct me to the thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp0PclrLZeA

Thoughts on this?

osarusan

Absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Insect Overlord

What are YOUR thoughts?

Frynge

The man is clearly under the influence of something and after getting arrested.

How would you like for him to be put into the Garda van?

Sir Arthur Daley

Its a disgrace Joe

Muppet Man

Resisted arrest.... Nothing wrong with response.

TeddyTedson

Standard policing really isn't. Red top wouldn't let them close the door, a few mild hits with a baton to encourage him seems to have done the job. Video is very boring being honest.

Mycroft H

2 Gardaí getting a drunk lad in the van. What's the problem here?

ScumLord

Nonissue. Drunk got arrested.

h2005

What are your thoughts on it?

Karl Stein

Were they to coax him into the the van with the promise of sweets?

What's the problem?

CB19Kevo

Cant say i see any issue, They had to get him in the van and when he was not complying they used reasonable force to ensure he did.

Axidium

Insect Overlord wrote: »

What are YOUR thoughts?

My thoughts over all are: I think the Irish police force has to be much more strict. If laws need to be changed then so be it. Too many scumbags and wasters walking the streets everyday. Either help them get back on track or take some sort of action. I mean for such a small population there is way too much crime in Ireland. I understand the cuts and all, but in this situation for example, it took too long to get the scumbag in to the van. Anywhere else in Europe and he would be shoved in. In my opinion it was embarrassing.

To me it seems like the Irish police force, the people protecting out streets, are not feared at all. It all seems like a joke.

20/20

Noting wrong with that.

Axidium

Oh and just to clarify. I think the Gards should of been even more harsh.

Sir Arthur Daley

Ill be up to your gaff in about half an hour

Frynge

Honestly didn't expect you to take line.

Saw you going the complete opposite on this. It's nice to be wrong sometimes.

ScumLord

Axidium wrote: »

Oh and just to clarify. I think the Gards should of been even more harsh.

Why? They got the job done, they clearly know the guy and probably didn't want to hurt him any more than they had to, they just had to get him in the van for his own safety if nothing else. Good police work.

h2005

They seemed to handle it quite well to me.

RDM_83 again

When I watch a video on youtube from AH I hope to get worked into a good self-righteous froth, that was just a waste of 3 minutes, going to watch something good instead.

Thoie

They stayed calm, didn't rush, got the job done with a minimum of force. If they'd fecked him in head first then broke his ankles to close the door, he'd be whining about police brutality.

Karl Stein

Boo!
Boooo!
That was the worst thing I’ve ever seen!
It was terrible!
Horrendous!
Well it wasn’t that bad.
Oh, yeah?
Well, there were parts of it I liked!
Well, I liked alot of it.
Yeah, it was GOOD actually.
It was great!
It was wonderful!
Yeah, bravo!
More!
More!
More!
More!

Axidium

Thoie wrote: »

They stayed calm, didn't rush, got the job done with a minimum of force. If they'd fecked him in head first then broke his ankles to close the door, he'd be whining about police brutality.

And he would learn his lesson. Calm is the problem. No one is going to fear a calm person. Police should be feared. They are there to protect the law. He broke the law and deserves punishment.

Think_then_talk

I'll spray you now again... Must have BO.

end of the road

Axidium wrote: »

My thoughts over all are: I think the Irish police force has to be much more strict. If laws need to be changed then so be it. Too many scumbags and wasters walking the streets everyday. Either help them get back on track or take some sort of action. I mean for such a small population there is way too much crime in Ireland. I understand the cuts and all, but in this situation for example, it took too long to get the scumbag in to the van. Anywhere else in Europe and he would be shoved in. In my opinion it was embarrassing.

To me it seems like the Irish police force, the people protecting out streets, are not feared at all. It all seems like a joke.

the police aren't supposed to be "feared" their just there to enforce the law regardless, theirs only to much crime because ireland being a small country we know about it, i'm sure if you dig deep enough the same nonsense is going on around europe

end of the road

Axidium wrote: »

Oh and just to clarify. I think the Gards should of been even more harsh.

nonsense, their response was perfect

T-K-O

Thoughts?

There is some glow of their heads

Neil Andblomee

Axidium wrote: »

Maybe this was discussed before. Not sure. If it was please direct me to the thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp0PclrLZeA

Thoughts on this?

Seems fair enough, he looks like a rapist.

end of the road

Axidium wrote: »

And he would learn his lesson.

well, if he breaks the law again, arrest him again, simple

Axidium wrote: »

Calm is the problem.

no it isn't, it works well, better calm then headcase like certain police forces around the world

Axidium wrote: »

No one is going to fear a calm person.

if it gets the job done, then its good enough for most.

Axidium wrote: »

Police should be feared.

no they shouldn't, thats a very dangerous statement, like what a dictator might say. thankfully we don't live in a dictatorship so no the police shouldn't be or aren't there to be "feared"

Axidium wrote: »

They are there to protect the law.

exactly, so as long as they do that no need to be feared.

Axidium wrote: »

He broke the law and deserves punishment.

he got arrested, so he did get punished

pappyodaniel

Bald Gard used that baton like a boss....real smooth and natural, kinda like he's used it before.

HeidiHeidi

Jaysus, this just confirms what I've long suspected - the Gardai can never win.

Even when they're right they're wrong

freedominacup

pappyodaniel wrote: »

Bald Gard used that baton like a boss....real smooth and natural, kinda like he's used it before.

I'd say by the accent he spent more than one day hanging around/working in a cattle mart as a young fella. That's where he got that smooth practiced move. Just the right amount of lean back too in case a kick comes in his direction as well.

errlloyd

****ing disgrace, this sort of brutality makes me so angry. How our local politicians don't step up and do something. The image is bad, it reeks of corruption and power hunger. It makes me feel unsafe and uneasy walking the streets. I just don't understand why the **** the cobbles on one footpath don't match the other side of the road. It makes me ****ing furious. Obviously some local politician lives on the left side. Bullsh!t.

Lyaiera

**** cobbles. They're **** for people in wheelchairs.

Sir Arthur Daley

You need the Healy Raes here to make sure both pavements are the same.

Lyaiera

I'm glad the discussion has moved onto something important.

Sir Arthur Daley

The paving is well layed in fairness.

minidazzler

Axidium wrote: »

And he would learn his lesson. Calm is the problem. No one is going to fear a calm person. Police should be feared. They are there to protect the law. He broke the law and deserves punishment.

The day I fear people who are supposed to uphold the law is the day I fight them, because they've gotten to a point where it's tyrannically done.

They are there to UPHOLD the law and protect people.

Also, he allegedly broke the law. There's no evidence of him committing a crime

That said, I don't see much issue with what they did except for the garda wearing the hi-vis slamming the gate pretty hard on his legs straight off the bat. That was a bit uncalled for but looked like it hit the fat of his shoes more than anything.

Sir Arthur Daley

At 1:42 in the clip he got a nice surprise.

suicide_circus

Gardai showed remarkable patience and restraint tbh. If that had taken place in other countries, like Germany, UK, Spain, Netherlands or the US, the guy would have received far more "encouragement" to get in the van.

SV

Nothing wrong with it at all. A little light slap across the toes and he still didn't cop on, so he got another until he moved.
Proper order.

Pacing Mule

He probably spoke Irish to them too at some point.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Axidium wrote: »

Oh and just to clarify. I think the Gards should of been even more harsh.

They used reasonable and proportionate force, any more than that and they would be guilty of assault.
I think they handled it very well, they have a tough job to do and in this case did it well.

Seedy Arling

The gardai looked like they were taking their time and being patient with him. Seemed like very 'controlled' swings of the baton too.

Man handling someone can be a very risky business, just in terms of biting, scratching even the manual handling side of it I'm sure. No harm in giving him a bit of a tap for encouragement.

josip

1.40 - Red Head looks around before taking out the baton to see if there's anyone coming.
1.41 - Decides not to take out baton and turns around again.
1.41 - Shiny head already has his baton out using it.
1.42 - Red head has a quiet word with shiny head to tell him to lay off.
1.45 - Reason for red head not taking out baton and telling shiny head to lay off walks by.
1.49 - Red head and shiny head check again to see if anyone is coming before resuming batoning.

The Guards don't have an easy job to do, but from their own body langauage it's easy to see that these two knew they were doing something (batoning) that they shouldn't be doing.

Will any action be taken over this? I doubt it.

mickydoomsux

josip wrote: »

1.40 - Red Head looks around before taking out the baton to see if there's anyone coming.
1.41 - Decides not to take out baton and turns around again.
1.41 - Shiny head already has his baton out using it.
1.42 - Red head has a quiet word with shiny head to tell him to lay off.
1.45 - Reason for red head not taking out baton and telling shiny head to lay off walks by.
1.49 - Red head and shiny head check again to see if anyone is coming before resuming batoning.

The Guards don't have an easy job to do, but from their own body langauage it's easy to see that these two knew they were doing something (batoning) that they shouldn't be doing.

Will any action be taken over this? I doubt it.

There's always one.......

Scouser

they should have tickled him into the van - sure everyone knows that

DwightSchrute1

josip wrote: »

1.40 - Red Head looks around before taking out the baton to see if there's anyone coming.
1.41 - Decides not to take out baton and turns around again.
1.41 - Shiny head already has his baton out using it.
1.42 - Red head has a quiet word with shiny head to tell him to lay off.
1.45 - Reason for red head not taking out baton and telling shiny head to lay off walks by.
1.49 - Red head and shiny head check again to see if anyone is coming before resuming batoning.

The Guards don't have an easy job to do, but from their own body langauage it's easy to see that these two knew they were doing something (batoning) that they shouldn't be doing.

Will any action be taken over this? I doubt it.

Action taken over what exactly?

josip

mickydoomsux wrote: »

There's always one.......

Happy to be the one.

I don't think this warrants any more than the sergeant having a word with them and telling them to try a bit longer to get the lad's legs in the next time.

They'll probably just tell shiny head to check for passers by before taking out the baton in future.

DwightSchrute1

josip wrote: »

Happy to be the one.

I don't think this warrants any more than the sergeant having a word with them and telling them to try a bit longer to get the lad's legs in the next time.

They'll probably just tell shiny head to check for passers by before taking out the baton in future.

If they tried a bit longer and the male still hadn't put his legs in, then hit him with the baton, you would still be on here complaining. You hardly expect the Gaurds to wait around all day until the arrested man decides to put his feet in the door.

mickydoomsux

josip wrote: »

Happy to be the one.

I don't think this warrants any more than the sergeant having a word with them and telling them to try a bit longer to get the lad's legs in the next time.

They'll probably just tell shiny head to check for passers by before taking out the baton in future.

You're what's wrong with this country.