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Garda Age Card,,,Whats The Point

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,987 ✭✭✭✭ kneemos


    coolock94 wrote: »
    so therefore telling people its over 21s they are discriminating against my age

    The righteousness of youth is a joy to behold.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,087 ✭✭✭✭ Witcher


    coolock94 wrote: »
    i be questioning it when i get my chance

    First step is to state your case to the bouncer on the door.

    Don't let him silence you..just rant rant rant at him. It will definitely help the case in court.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,009 wnolan1992


    I don't think you being refused had anything to do with the age card tbh. They just didn't like the look of you and made up some excuse to make you feel better rather than saying "You look like a scumbag, we're not serving you."

    I've never had any issue with the card bar a bouncer laughing at my photo once...


  • Registered Users Posts: 865 ✭✭✭ markad1


    Blay wrote: »
    First step is to state your case to the bouncer on the door.

    Don't let him silence you..just rant rant rant at him. It will definitely help the case in court.

    The assault case?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,087 ✭✭✭✭ Witcher


    markad1 wrote: »
    The assault case?

    :pac:

    We all know the first step in a successful discrimination case is shouting the odds about your rights like a loudmouth:p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭ coolock94


    trust me i don't look like a scumbag, if i did i wouldn't be doing what i do today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭ coolock94


    alright i think i cleared it up looking up the liquor act i found this makes intresting reading.


    If—


    (a) the holder of a licence or other authorisation which permits the sale of intoxicating liquor adopts a policy of refusing to supply intoxicating liquor to any person below a specified age which exceeds 18 years,


    (b) a notice setting out the policy is displayed in a conspicuous place in or on the exterior of the premises, and


    (c) the policy is implemented in good faith,


    a refusal to serve intoxicating liquor to such a person shall not constitute discrimination on the age ground


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,087 ✭✭✭✭ Witcher


    coolock94 wrote: »
    trust me i don't look like a scumbag, if i did i wouldn't be doing what i do today

    In fairness, nobody's going to say 'Actually, you're right, I do look like a scumbag'.

    Your testimony will have to be stricken from the record. We need a third party opinion of your appearance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭ coolock94


    haha have to laugh pal im not going to discuss whether or not i look like a scumbag, i don't speak nor look like one. ive been offered jobs as cabin crew and am currently in waiting for a medical for the garda reserve, nether of which take on scumbags,, hope i cleared that up for you


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,087 ✭✭✭✭ Witcher


    coolock94 wrote: »
    haha have to laugh pal im not going to discuss whether or not i look like a scumbag, i don't speak nor look like one. ive been offered jobs as cabin crew and am currently in waiting for a medical for the garda reserve, nether of which take on scumbags,, hope i cleared that up for you

    Sure the guards will take all sorts these days...desperate for bodies:pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭ coolock94


    cant argue there great point ah sure I must be a scumbag so explains a lot really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭ hfallada


    You cant carry around you €80 passport as it might get lost or stolen. Most twenty somethings I know in Dublin dont have a drivers license as insurance is too expensive to bother getting one. So an Age Card is the only choice.

    But if we had a national ID like Italy there would be not need for an Age card and a passport( most Italians can use their ID card instead of a passport, even on Ryanair).


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,087 ✭✭✭✭ Witcher


    Were you out in your Santy suit again OP?

    Maybe that explains it all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭ coolock94


    fecking wish I was I got in everywhere in that suit didn't get asked for id once that night


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭ dundalkfc10


    What does a Scumbag look like?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,987 ✭✭✭✭ kneemos


    What does a Scumbag look like?

    Hmm


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭ dundalkfc10


    kneemos wrote: »
    Hmm

    Loads of scumbags dress well and loads of non scumbags might dress like a scumbag


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,009 wnolan1992


    This is the first image result for scumbag.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,491 looking_around


    Ranting & Raving forum , that way ---->

    I've never been refused, even at 18 I manage to get in to the odd "over 21's". (Being polite does amazing things.)

    I've also never seen an "over 21's only" in a shop, sure you're not mistaking it with those "if you're under 21 you must supply an age card" signs? or the ones that say "think 21, ask for ID"?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭ dundalkfc10


    Ranting & Raving forum , that way ---->

    I've never been refused, even at 18 I manage to get in to the odd "over 21's". (Being polite does amazing things.)

    I've also never seen an "over 21's only" in a shop, sure you're not mistaking it with those "if you're under 21 you must supply an age card" signs? or the ones that say "think 21, ask for ID"?

    Loads of places have signs saying over 21 and over 23

    Some nightclubs, 1 in Dundalk 1 in Newry are both 21s on certain nights


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,491 looking_around


    Loads of places have signs saying over 21 and over 23

    Some nightclubs, 1 in Dundalk 1 in Newry are both 21s on certain nights

    I was talking about shopd, OP makes mention of Spar. I know plenty of bars do that, but I've never seen it in shops.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,449 ✭✭✭✭ RobbingBandit


    You need a guy named Scott Tenorman OP he will sell you some pubes so you can reach maturity. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,255 ✭✭✭✭ Cookie_Monster


    coolock94 wrote: »
    alright i think i cleared it up looking up the liquor act i found this makes intresting reading.


    If—


    (a) the holder of a licence or other authorisation which permits the sale of intoxicating liquor adopts a policy of refusing to supply intoxicating liquor to any person below a specified age which exceeds 18 years,


    (b) a notice setting out the policy is displayed in a conspicuous place in or on the exterior of the premises, and


    (c) the policy is implemented in good faith,


    a refusal to serve intoxicating liquor to such a person shall not constitute discrimination on the age ground
    bollox it doesn't constitute age discrimination, that's exactly what it is and legalised too. :mad:
    how is it 'good faith' in any way?
    what if it were reversed and they refused to serve anyone over 35, there's be outrage in the media over it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭✭ lilymc


    Get this for unfair. My friend who is 25 (and looks it) got refused tobacco skins with his age card!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭ dundalkfc10


    lilymc wrote: »
    Get this for unfair. My friend who is 25 (and looks it) got refused tobacco skins with his age card!!!

    You can buy them at 16


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭ harr


    You can buy them at 16
    Not sure about 16 for skins,I think all tobacco related Products are over 18,just last week a neighbor of mine sent her 17 year old son down for skins and was refused in two different shops....
    I could be wrong ,does anybody know for sure what the legalities are for the likes of skins and filters?


    Just found the answer here. http://www.showmeid.ie/faqs.htm so it's defo over 18 for skins and the like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 oldyouth


    coolock94 wrote: »
    so therefore telling people its over 21s they are discriminating against my age

    Nope, they really mean they don't want YOU in their establishment, they can legally let in anyone from 18 onwards. They are using their internal rules to keep YOU out of their premises


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 djPSB


    'Go get a Burger and a Coffee.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭ Lenin Skynard


    I didn't read the whole thread but I have come into this "age card" thing even into my 30s. The age card is basically just the "drink card".

    I think licenses to sell alcohol shouldn't be given to people unless they agree not to have a "over-25s" or whatever age policy. When people turn 18, they have just as many rights as other adults. I'm saying this as a 32 year old.


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