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Is being late for dinner rude?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    Witchie wrote: »
    Ok friend who is carer to her sick mum and elderly dad is here but other is 50 minutes late. Am really pissed off with her at this stage.

    50 mins late is bollox!

    Start and finish if necessary without the other friend.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    Oh here we go........

    too close for comfort ;)

    Seriously though, I have been all over the US and the UK and Canada and never saw such disregard for traffic signals...

    "ah sure there's no one coming"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I give them a 15 minutes grace period and then I consider the agreement null and void, auto cancelled.

    Mobile phones has made the compulsively late even worse.

    THey look at you in shock ..."Didn't you get my text?"

    Eh no I didn't... It must have flown up your ass.

    I don't really mind 15 minutes or so if it's a drink in the pub or something but I had mates that were turning up 40 minutes late or more for a barbecue and whatnot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    Not true, some people do arrive on time. I'm not calculating a list of time constants for everyone else who is too disorganized or disingenuous to meet me at the agreed time
    *Shrugs* The reality is, as this thread shows, that most Irish people have a very relaxed attitude towards timekeeping. You can accept that or continue to be disappointed. Or sitting on your own

    For example, I'm about to head out to a party that's supposed to start at 20:00 but there's no way that I'll be there before 20:30. Why? Because I know that the host will still be getting ready and things won't kick off proper until around 21:00. I'm not going to turn up and start complaining that not everyone else shares my sense of timeliness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    muletide wrote: »
    Bullsh1t

    Punctuality doesn't suit lazy, self absorbed people of any nationality

    Don't disagree but the Irish see it as acceptable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭muletide


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    Bullsh1t.

    I've lived in multiple countries and never had so many issues with punctuality...

    ...and I've had so many Irish people tell me, when I used to complain about this, that the only option was to just adapt and be late myself.

    I've lived in many countries and have had just as many issues with punctuality.

    Unfortunately my and your experiences don't allow us to make generalisations of any nation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭dmc17


    Witchie wrote: »
    Ok friend who is carer to her sick mum and elderly dad is here but other is 50 minutes late. Am really pissed off with her at this stage.

    Ok, now the two of ye should definitely eat without her. Then when she comes ye can sit there and watch her eat :D


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Marley Salmon Rodeo


    Witchie wrote: »
    Ok friend who is carer to her sick mum and elderly dad is here but other is 50 minutes late. Am really pissed off with her at this stage.

    Just eat without her


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    too close for comfort ;)

    Seriously though, I have been all over the US and the UK and Canada and never saw such disregard for traffic signals...

    "ah sure there's no one coming"

    Iv been all over the US and the UK and Canada. They all eat babies over there!

    Let's keep to the topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    I can't do being late for anything, be it work, an appointment, meeting friends, going to the cinema etc. It's the one one thing I'm fussy about. I don't know why I'm like that, I just am. I'm less than tolerant with people who are late for things


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    Reekwind wrote: »
    *Shrugs* The reality is, as this thread shows, that most Irish people have a very relaxed attitude towards timekeeping. You can accept that or continue to be disappointed. Or sitting on your own

    For example, I'm about to head out to a party that's supposed to start at 20:00 but there's no way that I'll be there before 20:30. Why? Because I know that the host will still be getting ready and things won't kick off proper until around 21:00. I'm not going to turn up and start complaining that not everyone else shares my sense of timeliness

    They sure do, well fortunately I don't actually have to deal with it anymore


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    muletide wrote: »
    I've lived in many countries and have had just as many issues with punctuality.

    Unfortunately my and your experiences don't allow us to make generalisations of any nation

    well I lived in the US for 29 years... and have been to 49 out of 50 states... so... I trust my opinion about that more than yours...

    plus, I have heard many a US expat remark about the Irish punctuality issues...

    plus c'mere, this is a place where people didn't bother getting full licenses until the law was changed forcing them too...

    I love Ireland, and am an Irish citizen, but there's no comparing the punctuality of Yanks and Irish.

    You'd be fired many times over in the US if you behaved the way you do here, in this respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    Nothing worse though than when you arrive on time to someone's house for dinner and 1.5 mins later the dinner is on the table.

    Have dinner ready, turn everything down low as possible or indeed off. Have a few drinks and krank the oven up and then serve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭poundapunnet


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    I show up 10-15 early for almost everything. If I think it'll be rude to actually present myself early I wait in my car, etc., until the time I'm meant to be there.

    This rude behaviour exists because people allow it to exist.

    Different things are rude in different countries, manners are not a universal truth. To an Irish person a lot of people from some European countries can come across as rude when really they just don't have the same cultural taboo against being direct and saying what you actually mean. To a lot of people not from Ireland, we can seem rude and inconsiderate in regards to punctuality, but most of the time it's not intended that way. The same way as our attitude to casual swearing seems atrocious to Americans, but there's no aggression or disrespect meant by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    Very simple solution.........
    Sit down start eating and drinking, take a picture of the plate and send it to them per facebook oder whatsapp.........message below......tasted great, pity you didnt arrive on time. On the sofa in my slippers with a glass of wine. Have a nice evening.

    They will show up on time the next time you invite.

    Or take the route my mother took as we were 5 kids.....dinner is on the table at 6, if you come at 6.30 its the same dinner just a little colder ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,188 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Its a mad time of the year and **** happens and what not but an hour late for a dinner invite is wrong. I'd go ahead and eat without her. As well as you guys not standing around being hungry, you being pissed off or the food getting ruined etc it might send her a small message in a polite way also rather then holding up the whole show for her and indulging her behaviour.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    Different things are rude in different countries, manners are not a universal truth. To an Irish person a lot of people from some European countries can come across as rude when really they just don't have the same cultural taboo against being direct and saying what you actually mean. To a lot of people not from Ireland, we can seem rude and inconsiderate in regards to punctuality, but most of the time it's not intended that way. The same way as our attitude to casual swearing seems atrocious to Americans, but there's no aggression or disrespect meant by it.

    well we all can't have it both ways...

    some people are arguing the Irish are no less late than others, but you seem to say you're definitely more late, but it's not seen as rude here...

    obviously some folks disagree...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭mitosis


    anncoates wrote: »
    Everyone can be unavoidably late on occasion, but I know people that waffle on about their serial lack of punctuality like it's indicative of a daring riposte to conventionality but let's be honest, it just means they're being ignorant cunts

    Your post could be more succinct. You'd have got away with the last four words. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭DoozerT6


    I really hate being late for anything:/

    OP I guess it's one thing if they were just calling around for drinks and nibbles that require little or no prep work or cooking - but when you're going to the bother of cooking them a three-course meal, they should have made damn sure they were not more than 10 minutes late (if even that!!) unless there was a damn zombie apocalypse on the way. Cooking like that takes time and preparation, and if dinner is at six, you're calculating all prep and cooking time around that. Turning up at 7 without any excuse...well I'd just answer the door in my slippers with a bottle of beer in my hand and tell them the leftovers are in the kitchen if they want to help themselves. Then shuffle back to Eastenders :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    All together now, at midnight:

    Should bold lateness be forgot,
    and never thought upon;
    The flames of love extinguished,
    and fully past and gone.

    Is thy sweet dinner now grown so cold,
    that brings tears to my eyes
    That thou canst never once reflect
    On old, cold herby fries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭poundapunnet


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    well we all can't have it both ways...

    some people are arguing the Irish are no less late than others, but you seem to say you're definitely more late, but it's not seen as rude here...

    obviously some folks disagree...

    I can only speak from my own experience to be honest but I'd say yes, Irish people definitely tend to be lax about punctuality for social engagements and I'm far from the only one saying it. I suspect there could be an urban/rural divide on this too or it's different in different parts of the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    well I lived in the US for 29 years... and have been to 49 out of 50 states.

    I've got to know which one you haven't been to. Hawaii or Alaska?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    I've got to know which one you haven't been to. Hawaii or Alaska?

    Hmm...your name looks familiar. Are we related?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hmm...your name looks familiar. Are we related?

    No, I think he's one of the Ballygobay DonkeyOatys, different bunch altogether


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭chrismon


    Nothing worse than inconsiderate people.
    Hope you have a nice evening OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Your upset is completely understandable OP but these are obviously good friends of yours given that you're cooking such a lovely meal for them on New Year's Eve. If I were you I wouldn't escalate things into an argument when you've gone to so much trouble, you'll ruin your own night as well as theirs and you're the one who's put in all the effort.

    Instead, as others have suggested, just keep the food warm until your guest arrives and remember it's also okay to send a text to them in the meantime to see where they're at. Having said all that I wouldn't let the issue go unaddressed.

    For your part, in future, give yourself and them some buffer time when doing a meal. If someone's doing a meal or BBQ type thing I always ask what time we'll be eating and what time they'd like me to arrive. The two are often different. If your friends confirmed that with you in advance then it is pretty rude of them to show up this late but I'd still build in some time in this regard both for you and for them; it takes the pressure off.

    I'd also say to them (at a later date maybe, when you're feeling more collected) that it makes you feel unappreciated when they arrange to meet you at a particular time and then are late. Point out that this is particularly the case when you've put a lot of hard work into something like tonight. Go from there and here's hoping you enjoy your night.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    I've got to know which one you haven't been to. Hawaii or Alaska?

    You can't drive to Hawaii ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I learned a long time ago that if I want someone to be on time I just lie about the time and tell them to be there 10 minutes before I actually need them to arrive. Saves arguments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    You can't drive to Hawaii ;)

    This would drive me mental. I'd have to go just to say I've been to all the states in America. Wouldn't say there's very many who can claim that. Sorry for the thread derail op.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Pang


    I hate when people are late for dinner reservations. There is one girl in our group who is always late even when we tell her an earlier time. It's gotten to the stage where people order for her because she can be at least a half hour late.

    A once off occasion is bearable but being consistently late is just poor manners.


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