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The Puroresu (Japanese Wrestling) thread

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  • #452
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Machismo Fan wrote: »
    Not a fan of that at all, especially if Naito is winning (which he should).

    Naito hasnt exactly been getting great reactions. It seems like hardly anyone cares about him. The IC title match meanwhile received almost twice as many votes. It would be worse for both Naito and NJPW to put the title on him if people dont care about him. I'd expect Okada to win and Naito to quickly drop down the card. Devitt will likely also drop the Jr title at the same show, so he could move back into the main event picture in place of Naito. He was worth a shot, but he doesnt seem to have worked.


  • #453
    BohsJohnny
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    Yep spot on the Japanese fans have not liked Naito being shoved down their throats,especially when the likes of Ishii,Nakamura and Shibata have had the better year in ring and connecting with the fans.Would have rather had Natio vs Okada as the main but the fans have spoken.


  • #454
    BohsJohnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭BohsJohnny


    For anybody on here looking to buy the Tokyo dome there is a new channel on ustream for it http://www.ustream.tv/njpwjp the old one is doing Spanish commentary now,there is word they are looking for English commentators but they haven't announced anything yet.


  • #455
    Machismo Fan
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    The full (and quite amazing) WrestleKingdom card:
    Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Tomoaki Honma & Captain New Japan & Bushi vs. Tiger Mask & Jushin Liger & Manabu Nakanishi & Super Strong Machine

    Four way for IWGP jr. title: Young Bucks vs. Alex Shelley & Kushida vs. Rocky Romero & Alex Koslov vs. Taka Michinoku & Taichi

    IWGP heavyweight tag title: Davey Boy Smith Jr. & Lance Archer vs. Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows

    NWA heavyweight title: Rob Conway vs. Satoshi Kojima

    Yuji Nagata & Kazushi Sakluraba vs. Daniel & Rolles Gracie

    Great Muta & Toru Yano vs. Shelton Benjamin & Minoru Suzuki

    Togi Makabe vs. Bad Luck Fale

    Hirooki Goto vs. Katsuyori Shibata

    IWGP jr. title: Prince Devitt vs. Kota Ibushi

    IWGP hwt title: Kazuchika Okada vs. Tetsuya Naito

    IC title: Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi


  • #456
    Hashtag_HEEL
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    Looks stacked! Can't wait


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  • #457
    rovert
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    I'd hate to be Okada working Naito he is totally DOA as a babyface and being over in general. He came out to silence at Power Struggle and out right slagging at today's Road to Toyko Dome show.


  • #458
    Machismo Fan
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    I'd book a double turn.


  • #459
    BohsJohnny
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    Absolutely fantastic video recapping New Japan's year



  • #460
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    This morning's "go home show" for the Tokyo Dome is available here:


    Review/write up here: http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2013/12/23/new-japan-road-to-wrestle-kingdom-8-1223-review/

    The main event starting around the 1hr 59min mark is up there with Orton/Bryan on Raw from last week.


  • #461
    [Deleted User]
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    Just watched my first ever NJPW match tonight. Mind blowing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdlEnQw9lyQ





    Would this match rate highly among Puro fans? Is this style typical of junior hweights? Anybody care to give me a brief outline of NJPW. As in what the different divisions are like, are there faces/heels, many gaijins etc.


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  • #462
    BohsJohnny
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    Just watched my first ever NJPW match tonight. Mind blowing.





    Would this match rate highly among Puro fans? Is this style typical of junior hweights? Anybody care to give me a brief outline of NJPW. As in what the different divisions are like, are there faces/heels, many gaijins etc.
    Yes that was rated very highly especially with Low-Ki working as Agent 47,the juniors weren't focused on for much of the year with Ibushi sign up there should be more focus on the Junior division.

    There is only the two different weight divisions but the heaveys have the world and ic titles and the ic title is very well booked that now with the Nakamura and Tanahashi match it is on the same level as the world title.

    Their really aren't heels and faces like American wrestling Devitt and the bullet club are american heels but no one else is all out heel or all out face Tanahashi is a face most of the time then he will get the Cena treatment of some crowds.

    The gaijins are very good with Devitt and the rest of the bullet club,Karl Anderson is great and has become brilliant on the mic WWE has been very interested in him,the young bucks are in now and i love the bucks.Davey Boy Smith jr has come on leaps and bounds since leaving WWE and had some great matches this year against Nakamura,his tag partner Lance Archer has improved a ton this year.

    There you go anymore you need to know just ask.


  • #463
    [Deleted User]
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    Is Naito the same dude that was in TNA as part of No Limit? That's him with that smashing lariat I think? Short haired chap?


    EDIT: Sorry it's Okada. Samoa Joe's lackey!!!! Jesus. He looks awesome


  • #464
    BohsJohnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭BohsJohnny


    If you like the Junior style more here are some of my favorite matches of the year



    Devitt vs Gedo
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11unrj_prince-devitt-vs-gedo-njpw-kizuna-road-2013_sport



    Young Bucks vs Forever Hooligans
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16x8wi_the-young-bucks-matt-jackson-nick-jackson-vs-forever-hooligans-alex-koslov-rocky-romero-njpw_sport


  • #465
    rovert
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    DOME SHOW IS LIVE

    You can still purchase and watch live. The first hour or so is free here:
    http://www.ustream.tv/njpw

    Alex Shelly and his tag partner came out to the Back to the Future theme a driving a DeLoren!


  • #466
    Cianan2
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    Rovert how many match of the year candidates do we have from this morning? Looking forward to seeing the show


  • #467
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Haven't seen the entire show between the Saturday shop and housework but the summation is here:
    After three decent matches to open things up, followed by three sub par bouts, this show was up in the air going into the final four matches. The final four delivered big, and this ended up being a pretty great show. The main theme here, is this show was fun. Twitter was buzzing big time, and everybody had a great time. Throw in the fantastic entrances, and we are looking at what will surely be another show of the year contender for New Japan.

    http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2014/01/04/new-japan-pro-wrestling-wrestle-kingdom-8-review/

    The Wrestlemania-ness of the show was better than the in ring show itself according to some.


  • #468
    Machismo Fan
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    They out WrestleMania-ed WrestleMania. An awesome live experience a couple of good matches early and the final four matches were all great.


  • #469
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Machismo Fan wrote: »
    They out WrestleMania-ed WrestleMania. An awesome live experience a couple of good matches early and the final four matches were all great.

    Yep Wrestlemania has the money behind it obviously but New Japan is a LOT more imaginative and playful production wise.

    Things seem to be on a futher uptick business wise. Today's show apparently drew 35,000 people up 20% on last year's attendance, they are doing two Dome shows this year instead of one and Dave Meltzer said the web traffic to his site was on par with upper tier UFC and WWE shows.

    Not a mod but let's have gentleman's agreed about spoilers for now.


  • #470
    EdK
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    Amazing show having been to the last 7 Wrestlemanias this impressed me far more the lighting the production the entrances the big time feel and most importantly some great wrestling delighted we made the trip


  • #471
    [Deleted User]
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    My first ever NJPW PPV and it was very cool. Things I thought I it (spoiler free):

    - Taka Michinoku is actually very very funny in the ring. Comic genius in fact. A cool 4way for the junior heavyweight tag belts.

    - Machine Gun Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows are potty mouths! The language coming out of them during their entrance was a bit shocking , that the PG era for ya I guess.

    - The Bullet Club are pretty cool but they're definitely influenced by the Kliq or paying homage anyway. The crotch chops, saying 'Suck It' and doing the Wolfpac hand sign.

    - Kota Ibushi is an absolute star, as is Fergal Devitt. Killer match.

    Looking forward to seeing a bit more of Japan's finest :)


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  • #472
    ciano316
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    - The Bullet Club are pretty cool but they're definitely influenced by the Kliq or paying homage anyway. The crotch chops, saying 'Suck It' and doing the Wolfpac hand sign.

    They've said before they are paying homage to a lot of kliq stuff even telling Scott Hall he was an honorary Bullet Club member!

    Kota Ibushi is excellent and has lovely hair.
    A great show all round, some serious talent over there.

    I want to go to a Wrestle Kingdom show one day.


  • #473
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    From Senor Lariato on Twitter. Those amazing pre-match graphics from Wrestle Kingdom.

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  • #474
    Machismo Fan
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    I was sitting right in front of the stage and everything from graphics to videos to pyro to presentation to giving most entrances some kind of special element even if they're not main event guys was far above everything I've ever seen.


  • #475
    sockmo
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    the full event is up on watchwrestling. Watched it last night and wow It was really good, would love to have english commentary though, missing out on the narrative a but the show was fantastic i'll definately start watching a lot more.


  • #476
    GTR63
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    Those Match Graphics are fantastic.
    Haven't seen the show but how bad were the Gracies on it?


  • #477
    rovert
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    GTR63 wrote: »
    Those Match Graphics are fantastic.
    Haven't seen the show but how bad were the Gracies on it?

    A farce.

    Both scared of strikes and one of them was most concern with keeping his pyjama top from opening.


  • #478
    GTR63
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    rovert wrote: »
    A farce.

    Both scared of strikes and one of them was most concern with keeping his pyjama top from opening.

    Were they Wrestling or Fighting?
    :D
    Still can't wait to watch the card the weekend.


  • #479
    BohsJohnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭BohsJohnny


    Only posting here now enjoyed watching the Tokyo dome live,apart from the Gracies crap everything else was fun to really good.

    Really fun 8 man from yesterday's New Japan show http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19a1hm_chaos-kazuchika-okada-shinsuke-nakamura-tomohiro-ishii-yoshi-hashi-vs-captain-new-japan-hirooki-goto_sport everything involving Ishii and Naito is great.

    El Desperado made his debut with this nasty looking finisher
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    They announced the two February shows would like Goto to have a run with the title
    2/9 in Hiroshima
    Kota Ibushi & Bushi vs. Jushin Liger & El Desperado
    Minoru Suzuki vs. Tama Tonga
    Yuji Nagata & Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Takashi Iizuika & Toru Yano
    Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs. Michael Tarver
    Satoshi Kojima vs. Big Daddy Yum Yum (Texas indie wrestler Byron Wilcott) for NWA heavyweight title
    Tetsuya Naito & Tomoaki Honma vs. Yujiro Takahashi & Tomohiro Ishii
    Togi Makabe & Ryusuke Taguchi & Kushida & Alex Shelley vs. Prince Devitt & Bad Luck Fale & Young Bucks
    Hirooki Goto & Katsuyori Shibata vs. Kazuchika Okada & Yoshi-Hashi
    Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows vs. Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr. for IWGP tag titles
    Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Shinsuke Nakamura for IC title
    February 11 - Osaka
    Young Bucks vs. Alex Shelley & Kushida for IWGP jr. tag titls
    Katsuyori Shibata vs. Yoshi-Hashi
    Minoru Suzuki & Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr. vs. Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows & Tama Tonga
    Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima vs. Big Daddy Yum Yum & Michael Tarver - Winners to get a shot at NWA tag champs Rob Conway & Jax Dane
    Yuji Nagata & Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Daniel & Rolles Gracie
    Hiroshi Tanahashi & Jushin Liger vs. Shinsuke Nakamura & Yujiro Takahashi
    Kota Ibushi vs. El Desperado for IWGP jr. title
    Tetsuya Natio vs. Tomohiro Ishii for Never title
    Kazuchika Okada vs. Hirooki Goto for IWGP heavyweight title


  • #480
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    From the latest Observer and the reason Devitt's match was "off" compared his previous matches with Ibushi:
    Devitt was really sick with the flu the day before, shaking and throwing up. He was feeling a little better the day of the show, but not himself, and people were really impressed he went out there and had the match he did, as one of four straight **** or better matches that closed out the show.

    He looked very gaunt without the body paint on him the show the day after the Tokyo Dome. I don't agreed with Dave's rating it was more in the ***1/4-1/2 range for me.


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  • #481
    Machismo Fan
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    The six man tag main event of todays Road to New Beginning show was excellent.


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