Garda Recruitment- The Waiting to Apply Room

Santa Cruz · 28-12-2013 11:18AM

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

If you get to interview stage, it won't come down to you having a driving licence or first aid, it will come down to the replies to their questions and how you come across, there are people spouting here who must never have done an interview and realise how much weight is given to it, anyone who gets that far has it in their own hands if they prepare well and come across as decent reliable people rather than coming across as arrogant and condecending but with a first aid course and a few hours in the reserve!

If you get to the interview stage what is required is that you perform well to be included in the number of available positions. If there are 300 vacancies and you perform to the standard of 301st then you don't make the cut. You will then be hoping that someone above you declines the offer.
This is of course depends on the interview board applying a fair and equal approach to all candidates being interviewed. I personally would have no confidence in that happening.

Pappa Charlie · 28-12-2013 01:43PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

If you get to the interview stage what is required is that you perform well to be included in the number of available positions. If there are 300 vacancies and you perform to the standard of 301st then you don't make the cut. You will then be hoping that someone above you declines the offer.
This is of course depends on the interview board applying a fair and equal approach to all candidates being interviewed. I personally would have no confidence in that happening.

Why not? Please elaborate and back up your arguement if you can?

Santa Cruz · 28-12-2013 04:26PM

Member of the final interview board using his/her influence to rate a candidate higher than they should be, perhaps having served as a Garda with that persons father etc. Other non Garda members of the interview board using the same to favour a family member, family friend. Nod nod to the other interview panel members.

This is Ireland Don't be so naieve as to believe that this won't go on

Pappa Charlie · 28-12-2013 04:40PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Member of the final interview board using his/her influence to rate a candidate higher than they should be, perhaps having served as a Garda with that persons father etc. Other non Garda members of the interview board using the same to favour a family member, family friend. Nod nod to the other interview panel members.

This is Ireland Don't be so naieve as to believe that this won't go on

There are 300 places up for grabs, stop looking for excuses if you don't get it, that's typical of Ireland and with an attitude like that you might as well stay at what your at! By the way your forgot to back up your arguement!

thekopend · 28-12-2013 05:04PM

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

There are 300 places up for grabs, stop looking for excuses if you don't get it, that's typical of Ireland and with an attitude like that you might as well stay at what your at! By the way your forgot to back up your arguement!

Your talking s***e Charlie. I would expect you above all to know what goes on if you are in the job!. I know for definate but I would not go into detail for obvious reasons. Naive or innocence I don't know what to call it.

Santa Cruz · 28-12-2013 05:09PM

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

There are 300 places up for grabs, stop looking for excuses if you don't get it, that's typical of Ireland and with an attitude like that you might as well stay at what your at! By the way your forgot to back up your arguement!

If you are a serving member of An Garda Siochana you must have little connection with the way the selection system operates. I don't need any excuse. I have done my time and I know how it works. Lesson one is not to believe anything that is put on paper about you when it comes to applying for any position in an Garda Siochana. It's the phone call and word of mouth where the real truth is told.

Pappa Charlie · 28-12-2013 05:44PM

thekopend wrote: »

Your talking s***e Charlie. I would expect you above all to know what goes on if you are in the job!. I know for definate but I would not go into detail for obvious reasons. Naive or innocence I don't know what to call it.

In the interest of the other 30,000 applicants you should bring your information to the garda ombudsman or shut the feck up!

Santa Cruz · 28-12-2013 05:51PM

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

In the interest of the other 30,000 applicants you should bring your information to the garda ombudsman or shut the feck up!

Do you seriously believe that there is a "paper trail" that the GSOC can use to track down this type of activity? First they would have to look at the careers of some of the former Inspectors and Superintendents they hired and see how they got through the system.

Pappa Charlie · 28-12-2013 05:52PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

If you are a serving member of An Garda Siochana you must have little connection with the way the selection system operates. I don't need any excuse. I have done my time and I know how it works. Lesson one is not to believe anything that is put on paper about you when it comes to applying for any position in an Garda Siochana. It's the phone call and word of mouth where the real truth is told.

Good luck, I'm out of here, best of luck to those who get in, it seems you are going to be accused of nepotism, feck the begrudgers!

Santa Cruz · 28-12-2013 05:57PM

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

Good luck, I'm out of here, best of luck to those who get in and feck the begrudgers!

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Best of luck to those who get in and to those who don't.
Whatever happens it will be a long time before they get the pay and conditions that those who joined between 1970 and 2009 experienced.
They are going to be exploited by Government and Garda management and abused by the public for shortcomings in the service due to lack of manpower, training and equipment.

DesertCreat_15 · 28-12-2013 06:23PM

Time to put the handbags away !

thestar · 28-12-2013 07:36PM

Devil08 wrote: »

Yes you can't. You either accept or decline. Thousands of people wanting the jobs so don't apply if you can't take it. Apply next time when you are available to take it

You 100% sure of that?

Devil08 · 28-12-2013 08:48PM

thestar wrote: »

You 100% sure of that?

Yes u cannot defer as medicals and physical tests are time limited as well as many other reasons.
You either accept or your place is given to someone else on list and u go back to start

Sound of Silence · 28-12-2013 08:53PM

DesertCreat_15 wrote: »

Time to put the handbags away !

It seems like it's always handbags at dawn on these Policing threads.

D Trent · 28-12-2013 08:57PM

Devil08 wrote: »

Yes u cannot defer as medicals and physical tests are time limited as well as many other reasons.
You either accept or your place is given to someone else on list and u go back to start

Candidates could defer in previous campaigns. Where have you seen/heard otherwise for current campaign?

Devil08 · 28-12-2013 09:01PM

D Trent wrote: »

Candidates could defer in previous campaigns. Where have you seen/heard otherwise for current campaign?

You can go back to the end of the panel. Won't guarantee you a spot in next intake though

D Trent · 28-12-2013 09:21PM

Devil08 wrote: »

You can go back to the end of the panel. Won't guarantee you a spot in next intake though

If anything you would be at beginning of the new panel. You would have proven your ability in the interview and physical test ahead of the panelists. The individual may be deferring for a reason out of their control not necessarily by choice. Garda management will see that

thekopend · 28-12-2013 09:25PM

Anyone who wants it would be crazy to defer in any upcoming campaign. No accelerated recruitment anymore!

Section_4 · 28-12-2013 09:26PM

D Trent wrote: »

If anything you would be at beginning of the new panel. You would have proven your ability in the interview and physical test ahead of the panelists. The individual may be deferring for a reason out of their control not necessarily by choice. Garda management will see that

In previous recruitment campaigns candidates who deferred, regardless of reason, were put to the back of the panel and called up when those now in front had accepted their place. There was generally no issue with deferrals as recruitment was on going and in massive numbers.

Raider190 · 28-12-2013 10:12PM

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

It happened to me as a student and I can empathise, but when you become full time you are seen as a working part of the unit that can actually contribute and investigate incidents and share the workload. That's the problem I have is that people think it can be done part time, I find that insulting and so do the vast majority of members. I've spoken to UK officers and they generally say the same!

More utter rubbish creating stories to put forward his point of view. This poster is not a member of AGS. He is constantly disseminating this bias against the Garda Reserve.

senordingdong · 28-12-2013 10:35PM

jimmythedivil wrote: »

All prison officers and civil servants have had to do 40 years service since 2008. There is no mention of the length of service for new recruits into the Guards...something that needs immediate clarification surely.

Yeah, but what's your source for this?

Graciefacey · 29-12-2013 10:45AM

As far as I am aware, there was very fee if anyone on the 09 panel that had a serving garda as a parent so to suggest that was the reason for their selection Is obnoxious. Everyone makes the cut on their own merits. The one piece of advice I would give is to go into the interview room full of confidence because they will go through you for a shortcut if you're nervous. One interviewer was s being particularly difficult questioning everything I said I was calm confident and gave it straight back to him without flinching. I later got feedback saying they were very impressed. Don't be nervous!

Faith and Justice · 29-12-2013 01:05PM

Raider190 wrote: »

More utter rubbish creating stories to put forward his point of view. This poster is not a member of AGS. He is constantly disseminating this bias against the Garda Reserve.

We have to take the posters word. If he says he's a member them we can't say otherwise without proof.

If he doesn't like the Garda reserve then so what? Any Gardai I know don't like them either. We're all entitled to our opinion on this forum.

If you read through some of poppa Charlie's posts, I do find him genuine and helpful

TheNog · 29-12-2013 02:47PM

jimmythedivil wrote: »

All prison officers and civil servants have had to do 40 years service since 2008. There is no mention of the length of service for new recruits into the Guards...something that needs immediate clarification surely.

It is still 30 yr contract in AGS for new recruits. There has been plenty of talks reducing it to 5 yr contracts but it is not happening yet. I confirmed this with a GRA rep couple of weeks ago

TheNog · 29-12-2013 02:49PM

Raider190 wrote: »

More utter rubbish creating stories to put forward his point of view. This poster is not a member of AGS. He is constantly disseminating this bias against the Garda Reserve.

If you hold that belief then report it to the Mods. No point in posting on a thread.

TheNog · 29-12-2013 02:53PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

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They are going to be exploited by Government and Garda management and abused by the public for shortcomings in the service due to lack of manpower, training and equipment.

Welcome to AGS. It's been going on for years and years

mycro89 · 29-12-2013 03:02PM

I wonder how many have applied at this stage?

ann.lewis · 29-12-2013 05:34PM

mycro89 wrote: »

I wonder how many have applied at this stage?

Was thinking the same. If 30'000 odd had expressed interest over the years..how many did apply in the end.

Scouser · 29-12-2013 05:35PM

ann.lewis wrote: »

Was thinking the same. If 30'000 odd had expressed interest over the years..how many did apply in the end.

prob half that

ann.lewis · 29-12-2013 05:48PM

Scouser wrote: »

prob half that

You think so ? I'd say a good amount applied but all these online tests will knock alot of people out. Probs only be 300 left ha !

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