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Garda Recruitment- The Waiting to Apply Room

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭DK man


    Scouser wrote: »
    oh wow

    the commissioner will be delighted you have spotted that obvious lack of judgement on his organisations part

    how silly of them to set it at a reasonable age that suits the needs of operational policing on this island

    Using your logic - a person over a certain age should not be allowed to apply to train as a nurse or primary school teacher - in fact why allow them into college

    I don't know your age but I'm assuming that you are interested in Garda training - a few years over 26 was seen as an unreasonable age to suit the needs of operational policing on this island! Which commissioner do you think is right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭DK man


    Scouser wrote: »
    i think its reasonable to assume that somebody joining at 35 will have a good career up to 65 and still be able to carry out his/her duties (whatever they maybe) at 65

    i

    Well I'm glad to see that you agree that people can be very productive across from 35 - 65. So we do agree after all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭coolock94


    so their not accepting foundation irish I have English and another language ie Spanish is this not enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Disco Dub


    RANDOMUSER wrote: »
    So you want them to have Seperate Email adresses for each specific problem that they think candidates might have. gardarecruitment@publicjobs.ie is the mailbox for ALL queries. There are also phone numbers provided.

    A correction to the e-mail address in your post. It should be gardatrainee2013@publicjobs.ie Also, the phone line given for queries is 08183323222 and I got through today. They said they're open 24/7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭RANDOMUSER


    Disco Dub wrote: »
    A correction to the e-mail address in your post. It should be gardatrainee2013@publicjobs.ie Also, the phone line given for queries is 08183323222 and I got through today. They said they're open 24/7.

    Thanks for clarifying the address disco. I haven't access to MS Word as using phone to post over weekend so couldn't look at info book. The 0818 number is a call centre who PAS awarded the contract to to handle the phone queries on their behalf as PAS no longer have the staffing numbers due to the moratorium on recruitment etc. The 01858 number is directly to PAS who only open Monday to Friday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭RANDOMUSER


    coolock94 wrote: »
    so their not accepting foundation irish I have English and another language ie Spanish is this not enough

    What you have is sufficient. The requirement is English and Irish or english or Irish plus another language


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭HighburyLad


    I have French and German which is grand as it means I'm covered, but why the need for a second language qualification? I could understand English and Irish, but why the need if you have English the need for another bar Irish and vice versa? just a genuine query more curious than anything lol :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭RANDOMUSER


    I have French and German which is grand as it means I'm covered, but why the need for a second language qualification? I could understand English and Irish, but why the need if you have English the need for another bar Irish and vice versa? just a genuine query more curious than anything lol :)

    It allows non nationals to apply and anyone who may have been exempt from Irish etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭HighburyLad


    RANDOMUSER wrote: »
    It allows non nationals to apply and anyone who may have been exempt from Irish etc.

    Fair point, would there be many non nationals within AGS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭RANDOMUSER


    Fair point, would there be many non nationals within AGS?

    A few Asian candidates went through on the last campaign. Garda reserve had a diverse range of nationalities apply too. I reckon a large Asian contingent to apply again and they are usually very good candidates too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭mfergus


    I think they can and could, raise it to 45? They'd still get a good few years out of applicants then, even though they are aware of the future re pension or other

    I think 45 is far too old to join. Fair enough a man in his 40s might be fit but he would be completing the last 5 years of the contract while he's in his 70s.

    That job is a bit stressful, I don't think it would suit a 74 year old man or women...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Maybe it's about time we started looking after Irish people and give them the jobs. If a person is an Irish citizen but of an ethnic background fair enough but we must draw a line somewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭DesertCreat_15


    mfergus wrote: »
    I think 45 is far too old to join. Fair enough a man in his 40s might be fit but he would be completing the last 5 years of the contract while he's in his 70s.

    That job is a bit stressful, I don't think it would suit a 74 year old man or women...

    I mean't that they could still work up until they are 65 and are made aware of the situation with pension's on their retirement. You could still get a good 20 years out of a 45 year old!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭carzony


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Maybe it's about time we started looking after Irish people and give them the jobs. If a person is an Irish citizen but of an ethnic background fair enough but we must draw a line somewhere.

    I couldnt agree more mate. Irish people are struggling for jobs as it is. i'v nothing against foreign people but come on irish people should get priority..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Maybe it's about time we started looking after Irish people and give them the jobs. If a person is an Irish citizen but of an ethnic background fair enough but we must draw a line somewhere.
    carzony wrote: »
    I couldnt agree more mate. Irish people are struggling for jobs as it is. i'v nothing against foreign people but come on irish people should get priority..

    Can we not go down this road folks?? Thanks


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Hooch wrote: »
    Can we not go down this road folks?? Thanks

    Why.

    Maybe it's time that the matter was discussed. Or are you afraid someone might be "offended"

    Maybe it's reasonable that we should expect to be policed by Irish nationals who have been raised in a country where unarmed policing is the norm.
    In a country where the majority of the people support the police but still are confident that they can criticise the police when they do the job incorrectly.

    Or just for the sake of political correctness are we to recruit individuals raised in the atmosphere of communist Eastern Europe or corrupt African states and who have no concept of community policing, policing by consent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Why.

    Maybe it's time that the matter was discussed. Or are you afraid someone might be "offended"

    Maybe it's reasonable that we should expect to be policed by Irish nationals who have been raised in a country where unarmed policing is the norm.
    In a country where the majority of the people support the police but still are confident that they can criticise the police when they do the job incorrectly.

    Or just for the sake of political correctness are we to recruit individuals raised in the atmosphere of communist Eastern Europe or corrupt African states and who have no concept of community policing, policing by consent.

    I, like a number of people here, am from the North, a place where the idea of community Policing is a relatively new concept and where the chances of unarmed Policing becoming the norm anytime in the near future is almost a fantasy. I don't feel, however, that any of this would negatively affect my capacity to be a good candidate.

    I honestly think that the main issue here for some of you is simply the sheer number of applicants, and all this talk of "foreign nationals" somehow not being good candidates is just a deflection from this; Not to mention the fact that they would be but a drop in the ocean in terms of actual applicants.

    I'm just as dismayed as I assume you are about the immense level of competition that we're likely to face and how remote our chances are, but we have to face the reality of the situation, which is that we're a Nation emerging from an economic crisis and, as such, the prospect of a secure government job is incredibly appealing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭thestar


    Has anybody looked at the paying conditions? Anybody who is applying for this job thinking of the steady income then they will get a surprise. Recruits will be lucky to come out with 350e which is a joke. I said that I always wanted to join the job but that money is a disgrace and will put many people off


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    I, like a number of people here, am from the North, a place where the idea of community Policing is a relatively new concept and where the chances of unarmed Policing becoming the norm anytime in the near future is almost a fantasy. I don't feel, however, that any of this would negatively affect my capacity to be a good candidate.

    I honestly think that the main issue here for some of you is simply the sheer number of applicants, and all this talk of "foreign nationals" somehow not being good candidates is just a deflection from this; Not to mention the fact that they would be but a drop in the ocean in terms of actual applicants.

    I'm just as dismayed as I assume you are about the immense level of competition that we're likely to face and how remote our chances are, but we have to face the reality of the situation, which is that we're a Nation emerging from an economic crisis and, as such, the prospect of a secure government job is incredibly appealing.

    I have no difficulty with anyone born on the island joining An Garda Siochana and I can see a situation where unarmed uniformed policing could develop in the North. I am not an applicant but I do want to be policed by Irish men and women


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    thestar wrote: »
    Has anybody looked at the paying conditions? Anybody who is applying for this job thinking of the steady income then they will get a surprise. Recruits will be lucky to come out with 350e which is a joke. I said that I always wanted to join the job but that money is a disgrace and will put many people off


    Be extremely lucky to even come out with 350 even after deductions,
    very important factor to consider, especially for lads to enter with loans,mortgages etc,


    I myself always wanted to join, regardless of pay,but it is lingering, I as like most would b taking a hefty pay cut to join,but i d love to join,
    decisions :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    re : alerts

    Anybody worried about not receiving a confirmation email should check the spam account on your email address as mine was there :)


    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭thestar


    is there a rent allowance for Gardai?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    thestar wrote: »
    Has anybody looked at the paying conditions? Anybody who is applying for this job thinking of the steady income then they will get a surprise. Recruits will be lucky to come out with 350e which is a joke. I said that I always wanted to join the job but that money is a disgrace and will put many people off

    That is why the authorities should be more forthcoming about rates of pay and allowances. Applicants who are in their late twenties maybe with a mortgage and family and in a well paid job now will have to be prepared to take serious financial hardship if the join up. For younger applicants without family etc. this might be a blessing as it will reduce the numbers applying when the truth about the salaries is known.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭thestar


    The figures are clearly given out on the public jobs handbook


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Devil08


    thestar wrote: »
    The figures are clearly given out on the public jobs handbook

    They aren't.
    It says noting about rent allowance, overtime rates, and yearly increments or increments if you hold a degree. No one knows if all this has been scrapped or what's happening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭thestar


    Didn't realise there would be add ons to that figure mentioned in the public jobs booklet. don't think anybody knows what the proper story is. I think that is the final figure, student nurses are on something very similar with a very minimal allowance given for overtime. I know it is a totally different job but the Gardai and nurses are similar in pay scales


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭HighburyLad


    I'm pretty certain things like rent allowance would be subject to where you would end up stationed, pretty certain all gardai get a rental allowance, but some who could be stationed for example, Dublin city could possibly get more to accommodate them, I say this with hope and really a guess, more so hope lol, as I've been told by fam and others that have heard through the grape vine that most recruits could end up, the likes of Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    I'm pretty certain things like rent allowance would be subject to where you would end up stationed, pretty certain all gardai get a rental allowance, but some who could be stationed for example, Dublin city could possibly get more to accommodate them, I say this with hope and really a guess, more so hope lol, as I've been told by fam and others that have heard through the grape vine that most recruits could end up, the likes of Dublin

    no the rent allowance is standard for everyone

    i think it stands at a little over 4k per year

    its basically a way of keeping displaced members happy! basically a 'mobility of labour' allowance, as they can post you anywhere in the state

    whether your in a small country sub station or a large city station, everyone receives the same rent allowance.

    whether it remains for new joiners remains to be seen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 realitycheck24


    Scouser wrote: »
    no the rent allowance is standard for everyone

    i think it stands at a little over 4k per year

    its basically a way of keeping displaced members happy! basically a 'mobility of labour' allowance, as they can post you anywhere in the state

    whether your in a small country sub station or a large city station, everyone receives the same rent allowance.

    whether it remains for new joiners remains to be seen

    Im afraid not Scouser,rent allowance wont be given to new members,it was posted here a while back from some document govt released,its just 23,000e no allowances


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Devil08


    Im afraid not Scouser,rent allowance wont be given to new members,it was posted here a while back from some document govt realeased,its just 23,000e no allowances

    You serious?? That's scandalous


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