Scanning

Conmaicne Mara · 30-11-2013 10:22PM #1

I've a number for a guy - yes, I am going to ring, I know I'll get told to

I'll only have 30 ewes to scan, do lads bother stirring out to scan that few? Want to identify the twins to bring them in earlier and keep a closer eye thanks to the fox cleaning me out this Spring. What would a normal rate be, would there be a call out charge too

Farrell · 30-11-2013 10:39PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I've a number for a guy - yes, I am going to ring, I know I'll get told to

I'll only have 30 ewes to scan, do lads bother stirring out to scan that few? Want to identify the twins to bring them in earlier and keep a closer eye thanks to the fox cleaning me out this Spring. What would a normal rate be, would there be a call out charge too

I got 32 scanned last year, cost €50. Have only 9 this year, supposed to be coming soon, I'm thinking same price

Conmaicne Mara · 30-11-2013 11:01PM

Farrell wrote: »

I got 32 scanned last year, cost €50. Have only 9 this year, supposed to be coming soon, I'm thinking same price

Oh good, that's not bad money at all. Was he accurate? The guy I got a number for is supposed to be the business.

Farrell · 02-12-2013 12:41AM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Oh good, that's not bad money at all. Was he accurate? The guy I got a number for is supposed to be the business.

He was out on a few. He was only a subby cos rush was on. Told a good few complaints on that fellow. Regular guy supposed to be real deal. Fingers crossed

rancher · 02-12-2013 09:28AM

Farrell wrote: »

He was out on a few. He was only a subby cos rush was on. Told a good few complaints on that fellow. Regular guy supposed to be real deal. Fingers crossed

Inaccurate scanning is a disaster, had a new guy one year and got a lot of trouble with Twin lamb disease in '' scanned singles''. The guy I have now would be 100% right on singles and 99% right on multiples, so management now includes being aware of the doubles and if any are losing weight quicker than the rest, put them in with the triplets and most of the time it will be a triplet, but would only have 4 or 5 of those

Farrell · 02-12-2013 11:26AM

True, had 2 Trips (1 scanned single & other twins), everything worked out.
It's nice to have accurate, so you can manage to avoid trouble (where possible).
I try to scan all (Cows & Ewes), means you can sell / Feed empties too.

Bleating Lamb · 02-12-2013 11:48PM

Very annoying when you have an inaccurate scan,same happened us last year with one bunch of around 40 ewes,usual scanner sent a 'deputy'....first year ever scanning.....everyone has to start somewhere but this lad spent more time talking SH*** than looking at screen,of all ewes he had marked for twins around ten lambed singles and had been fed extra....rest marked for twins lambed ok
Point was though he only had around 50% accuracy overall.....the main scanner WILL be coming this year or will lose job;)

razor8 · 03-12-2013 11:50AM

id be looking for money back at that going

premier10 · 07-12-2013 09:17PM

Got the ewes scanned today. Father of a good friend did them. pretty ucking useless, he could only tell single, double, empty. even at that any ewes that were 90 - 95 days by my dates he hadnt a ucking clue. 2 ewes in particular that were bought in were clearly inlamb before i got them as they are starting to slightly spring and are easily visible as heavy inlamb, he put them down as empty. I know it's gets harder to identify the number of lambs as time goes on, but if there inlamb at least say there is one in there.

€ 70 for 34 ewes and i'm no wiser. really pee'd about it, so much for giving a mate a turn. Never again.
:mad:

Conmaicne Mara · 07-12-2013 09:25PM

Rang the guy yesterday, no bother doing mine, but call him again nearer the time. Am looking forward to it now TBH.

Mac Taylor · 08-12-2013 12:52AM

Have 27 to scan myself. Never scanned before. Must give the scanner a call. Have cows to scan aswell so hopefully he'll do a deal!!

Lano Lynn · 08-12-2013 08:51PM

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Have 27 to scan myself. Never scanned before. Must give the scanner a call. Have cows to scan aswell so hopefully he'll do a deal!!

scanning is the best value for money I get every year. I get donegal farm relief unbelievably accurate.:)
saveing feed,better triplets & fostering management,early sale of barren ewes, all bonuses
have seen the other variety elsewhere ,a waste of time.
it is only fair to have you sheep prepared properly,accurate date for relesae of the ram & ewes fasted on the day.
so if your scanner is good don't begrudge them a few quid they have got to live too.....
if they are bad let them and everyone else know:mad:

Conmaicne Mara · 08-12-2013 09:03PM

Lano Lynn wrote: »

ewes fasted on the day.

Never heard of this, is it common? Must ask the fella I want to scan them, he didn't say.

eire23 · 08-12-2013 09:24PM

Lano Lynn wrote: »

scanning is the best value for money I get every year. I get donegal farm relief unbelievably accurate.:)
saveing feed,better triplets & fostering management,early sale of barren ewes, all bonuses
have seen the other variety elsewhere ,a waste of time.
it is only fair to have you sheep prepared properly,accurate date for relesae of the ram & ewes fasted on the day.
so if your scanner is good don't begrudge them a few quid they have got to live too.....
if they are bad let them and everyone else know:mad:

Got the roscommon farm relief to do ours last year. Was our first time getting them and he was 100% accurate, it makes life fierce easy for the reasons ya mentioned above. Scanning the first lot on the 23rd of this month so looking forward to that.
Never heard about fasting the ewes either?

Farrell · 08-12-2013 10:37PM

eire23 wrote: »

Got the roscommon farm relief to do ours last year. Was our first time getting them and he was 100% accurate, it makes life fierce easy for the reasons ya mentioned above. Scanning the first lot on the 23rd of this month so looking forward to that.
Never heard about fasting the ewes either?

Scanned last week, put them in the night before, but gave a small bit of hay. Scanner was there first thing, best results fasting, hay blots them. Guess put them in night before fasting for best results

razor8 · 08-12-2013 11:54PM

my scanner says 3 or 4 hours fasting is enough, just dont be mealing them or putting in a new bale before he/she arrives

one year 30 went awol morning of scanning on some winterage, got them before he left and he was still 100%.

Conmaicne Mara · 09-12-2013 12:01AM

Most of mine will be on the hill so they'll get neither feeding nor fasting.

tabby aspreme · 09-12-2013 12:10AM

Lad who scans for me used to go to New Zealand to scan, and sheep would always be fasted for 12 hours before scanning out there, he says it helps but he doesn't think its necessary and he is very accurate

Nekarsulm · 13-12-2013 03:06PM

Scanned today, had them closed up last night, but at some stage in the night, they escaped again:rolleyes:
Scanner ran through 75 in less than an hour. Only 1 empty. He has a great system of marking them, one dot or two (or 3 if trips). the nearer to the tail he put the dots, the nearer to lambing.

He reckons to be busy from now till March, usually scans 40,000 sheep in this time frame.
80 Euro, was pleasantly surprised.

grassroot1 · 13-12-2013 08:33PM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Scanned today, had them closed up last night, but at some stage in the night, they escaped again:rolleyes:
Scanner ran through 75 in less than an hour. Only 1 empty. He has a great system of marking them, one dot or two (or 3 if trips). the nearer to the tail he put the dots, the nearer to lambing.

He reckons to be busy from now till March, usually scans 40,000 sheep in this time frame.
80 Euro, was pleasantly surprised.

go on spill the beans what"s the % . when we scan we mark singles on shoulder, twins get no mark, triplets on tail and empty ewes on head

Dickie10 · 16-12-2013 09:21PM

Kiwi does ours last 3 years 99% accurate, 80cent a ewe and I have 82 to do. id say this is good value. all his own markers gates, leads etc. were doing it Thursday. he puts 1 blue dot for single, nothing for doubles, a circle for empty, and a 3 for triplets. if its very early or late he puts an L or an E on side in red.this way hes not matking every ewe but maybe just a third

Farrell · 17-12-2013 02:06AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

He has a great system of marking them, one dot or two (or 3 if trips). the nearer to the tail he put the dots, the nearer to lambing.

It seams to be the same method with most scanners, it allows for easier/better management

foxylock · 17-12-2013 07:47PM

Howya lads can anyone recommend a good scanner. Tipperary area, need to get them done shortly and never scanned before. Thanks

hedgecutting eddie · 17-12-2013 11:59PM

scanned my mid feb ewes yes and didnt go well and i never seen them look as in good condition 3 empties
33 singles
48 doubles
6 triplets

hedgecutting eddie · 18-12-2013 12:01AM

foxylock wrote: »

Howya lads can anyone recommend a good scanner. Tipperary area, need to get them done shortly and never scanned before. Thanks

kieran byrne 087 2653439 hes very good never any mistakes

paddysdream · 18-12-2013 12:15AM

The first ones scanned;

3 empty
42 singles
48 doubles
9 triples

Thats 1.65 so very happy with it.Those are lambing in early to mid January.
Scanning the main crop around Christmas and the hoggets/ewe lambs in late January.

In that first lot had a good few older ewes so would be expecting them to scan a decent crop even after the hard year they had here(yes some of us had very little grass due to the dry year.In fact will prob. need to buy a little hay/silage this year whilst I sold in the region of 300 surplus bales the previous year.Roll on another wet summer!)).

premier10 · 18-12-2013 12:57AM

Paddy,

When did you scan if you lambing in mid/Late Jan?
I'm due to start lambing around mid/emd jan and my scanner could'nt figure out any of the early ewes 3 weeks ago!

rancher · 18-12-2013 09:13AM

razor8 wrote: »

my scanner says 3 or 4 hours fasting is enough, just dont be mealing them or putting in a new bale before he/she arrives

one year 30 went awol morning of scanning on some winterage, got them before he left and he was still 100%.

An experienced scanner will scan them full, but they say it takes longer, our scanner prefers them fasted but coming from a field that they have been on a while is no problem, he doesn't like if they're put on a fresh paddock a few hours before ( to have them handy) or put in on a fresh bed of straw or someone gives them hay.
Over 100 days he finds hard, but he's good enough, its usually his fault if they're done late as I book him early

Western Pomise · 18-12-2013 03:48PM

hedgecutting eddie wrote: »

scanned my mid feb ewes yes and didnt go well and i never seen them look as in good condition 3 empties
33 singles
48 doubles
6 triplets

Jaysus Eddie yer hard pleased;)...that's a good enough result.....Have heard lot of early lambing flocks are having poor enough returns from scans.

paddysdream · 20-12-2013 10:30PM

Scanned the main bunch this morning.

Rams went in the 30th of September.

Scanned 527 lambs from 326 ewes.Works out at 1.61 per ewe.Not a great result but all things considered it could have been worse.Sheep had a tough year re. grass plus nearly 200 of those are first or second crop ewes.

At that result it would be very difficult to achieve anywhere near 1.5 lambs sold per ewe.

First time they were all handled since October and surprised with their condition.The vast majority were in very good order.A few thin ones as always but thats to be expected as they are run as one large group up to this stage.

Results were;

Dry;7
Singles;134
Doubles;162
Trebles;23

Just the few ewe lambs that went to the ram left to scan.Ran most of the ewe lambs dry this year as didnt think they had the size in late October.

razor8 · 20-12-2013 10:42PM

paddysdream wrote: »

Scanned the main bunch this morning.

Rams went in the 30th of September.

Scanned 527 lambs from 326 ewes.Works out at 1.61 per ewe.Not a great result but all things considered it could have been worse.Sheep had a tough year re. grass plus nearly 200 of those are first or second crop ewes.

At that result it would be very difficult to achieve anywhere near 1.5 lambs sold per ewe.

First time they were all handled since October and surprised with their condition.The vast majority were in very good order.A few thin ones as always but thats to be expected as they are run as one large group up to this stage.

Results were;

Dry;7
Singles;134
Doubles;162
Trebles;23

Just the few ewe lambs that went to the ram left to scan.Ran most of the ewe lambs dry this year as didnt think they had the size in late October.

Out of interest what breeds do you keep? Not scanning here for a few weeks yet

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