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    #1352
    ftakeith
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    after bayern's great win last night, no need to get bt sport/setanta until the end of january 2014


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    #1353
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,725 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    ftakeith wrote: »
    after bayern's great win last night, no need to get bt sport/setanta until the end of january 2014

    Why? They have nothing else on till then?


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    #1354
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    One for the US/Canadian sports fans, BT obtain rights to the NBA (some time after the season's actually started...)

    http://sport.bt.com/watchnow/programmes/bt-sport-agrees-multiyear-nba-broadcast-deal-S11363853884297


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    #1355
    ftakeith
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    it appears sky have kept the european rugby live rights


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    #1356
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    That one's still a bit to run yet, I'm afraid.


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    #1357
    KellyPavlik
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭KellyPavlik


    I for one am very happy with the news on CL/EL for BT/Set and am extremely confident that they will be shown in ireland. My one thought now, is whether BT are then going to be at a stage where they will need to add a 3rd channel to the pack?.

    They are certainly shaking up tyhe Sky monopoly and its great to see. Hopefully they go from strength to strength...


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    #1358
    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭jay0109


    KellyPavlik wrote: »
    I for one am very happy with the news on CL/EL for BT/Set and am extremely confident that they will be shown in ireland. My one thought now, is whether BT are then going to be at a stage where they will need to add a 3rd channel to the pack?.

    They are certainly shaking up tyhe Sky monopoly and its great to see. Hopefully they go from strength to strength...

    ah yeah, competition EU style.
    Where once we paid just 1 subscription for €30, now we pay 2 or maybe even 3 of them:(


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    #1359
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    yeah. expect Setanta to be around 30 to 35 euro by 2016 if BT do get more premier league rights and sky certainly wont drop their price.


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    #1360
    radiowaves
    Registered Users Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭radiowaves


    KellyPavlik wrote: »
    I for one am very happy with the news on CL/EL for BT/Set and am extremely confident that they will be shown in ireland. My one thought now, is whether BT are then going to be at a stage where they will need to add a 3rd channel to the pack?.

    They are certainly shaking up tyhe Sky monopoly and its great to see. Hopefully they go from strength to strength...

    That's a very strange post. The CL matches are already all shown in Ireland and if Sky were to get them again that would 100% certainly have been the case (same for the EL).
    As things stand, nobody knows for certain what will happen from 2015 but a third channel will not be enough to show 8 matches per CL night!

    If BT concentrate on showing the "extra" matches on their own platforms and decide not to bother with extra satellite capacity for the sake of a few matches per year, it is hard to imagine if/how we'll be getting those matches here.

    What we do know is that they have already indicated that the existing channels will remain, and also remain at the current subscription price.

    The CL matches will be shown on extra channels with a second subscription tier. How many extra channels is the crucial question.

    So, how it will manifest itself here is another question, just don't expect them to mention it in a press release nor on their website ;)

    As for shaking up the Sky monopoly, subscribers looking for the full PL and CL package will be paying more from 2015 than at present (if dependent on Irish/British channels). Is that really something to celebrate?


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    #1361
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,725 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    KellyPavlik wrote: »
    I for one am very happy with the news on CL/EL for BT/Set and am extremely confident that they will be shown in ireland. My one thought now, is whether BT are then going to be at a stage where they will need to add a 3rd channel to the pack?.

    They are certainly shaking up tyhe Sky monopoly and its great to see. Hopefully they go from strength to strength...

    We will probably get shafted as I can imagine all the non televised games will be available via their app which is for BT Broadband customers only. So we will probably lose out on this


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    #1362
    Onthe3rdDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    I thought that UEFA have a use it or lose it attitude to rights, If a company buys rights they have to show the game. Now, that doesn't have to be on Satellite, but I would assume that they'd have to stream the matches they have rights to in the Republic of ireland. Obviously you'd be paying to watch them but they would be available.

    Now things may have changed but Did rte not stream the matches they didn't show in the last European championship. There was at least one world cup or European championships in the last few years when TV3 showed the matches that were on at the same time while RTE showed the glamour tie. This was in the dark days before streaming (around 2004?)


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    #1363
    radiowaves
    Registered Users Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭radiowaves


    Onthe3rdDay wrote: »
    I thought that UEFA have a use it or lose it attitude to rights, If a company buys rights they have to show the game.

    Just like Setanta?

    If the Irish rights are a special case (and if Setanta and one CS rep from BT are to be believed, it is) then the rules don't really apply here one way or the other.


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    #1364
    Onthe3rdDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    radiowaves wrote: »
    Just like Setanta?

    If the Irish rights are a special case (and if Setanta and one CS rep from BT are to be believed, it is) then the rules don't really apply here one way or the other.

    I,m not sure what rights Setanta have here at the moment, but all games are available via sky, so that might (or might not cover them)

    What I'm saying is that from the time the new deal comes in, there will be no other way to see the games other than a sub to Setanta/BT, so they'll have to provide some way of seeing all the games. A complaint to UEFA might actually work, however we have to see what exactly they do first. You never know they might surprise everyone and show all the games.


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    #1365
    radiowaves
    Registered Users Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭radiowaves


    Onthe3rdDay wrote: »
    I,m not sure what rights Setanta have here at the moment, but all games are available via sky, so that might (or might not cover them)
    .

    All matches other than those on RTÉ & TV3 - with a minimum of two to be broadcast each matchnight.


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    #1366
    Onthe3rdDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    radiowaves wrote: »
    All matches other than those on RTÉ & TV3 - with a minimum of two to be broadcast each matchnight.

    Right, but they're not exclusive rights, as in SKY have all of the matches on their stations or their Red Button. So you have access to all matches at some form at this time.

    Once the new contract comes in that won't be the case. They have to be available at some level. Now they might be able to get away with it, but I'd think that UEFA will insist on at least streaming the matches.

    If you look at the European championship qualifiers recently, games that were not shown by tv stations were available live on youtube.

    It won't be that hard to stream the other games anyway, But I'd suspect it'll cost extra to watch the streams.


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    #1367
    danthefan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    I have Sky, and am subscribed to BT Sport/Setanta. Can I get access to watch BT Sports online? I've gone through the site and it's asking for my BT account number, which I don't think I have. Can you not access it in Ireland?


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    #1368
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,725 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Not available in Ireland.


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    #1369
    TAFKAlawhec
    Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭TAFKAlawhec


    jay0109 wrote: »
    ah yeah, competition EU style.
    Where once we paid just 1 subscription for €30, now we pay 2 or maybe even 3 of them:(
    When the EPL rights changed from a single package to six separate packages from which Setanta Sports picked up two and Sky the other four, Sky actually ended up having the rights to show more games than they did previously.

    Neither Setanta or ESPN got to directly challenge Sky on the really big ties, it's only now with BT coming into the fray that Sky are now getting a bit of competition on all levels.

    Also, the EU competition rules that directed the EPL rights to be split no longer applies, however the English FA have decided to keep the awarding of rights in the same format at least for UK & Irish broadcasters.


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    #1370
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    People really do have short memories. Up until 1983 there was no English football live on TV other than the Cup Final. In the 1980s we had one First Division match each week on ITV. When Sky started showing the Premier League in 1992 there was Super Sunday (with one game and two hours of buildup!) and Monday Night Football and little else. When "else" did come in 2001 it was in the form of PremPlus, the first and only time when Premier League games were pay-per-view. Things have moved on since then.

    Anyways some news, the Business Post interviewed Setanta's Brian Quinn today and while not explicitly stated, it seemed to confirm that from 2015 BT Sport's Champions League and Europa League coverage will be available in Ireland. Ominously though the main subject of the article surrounded on the fact that that 2015-16 is in fact the last year of the Setanta-BT agreement and the possibility of BT going it alone in Ireland after that. Clearly its way too early, four months into a three year agreement, to be speculating on that prospect, but the Business Post decided to anyway.


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    #1371
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    icdg wrote: »

    Anyways some news, the Business Post interviewed Setanta's Brian Quinn today and while not explicitly stated, it seemed to confirm that from 2015 BT Sport's Champions League and Europa League coverage will be available in Ireland. Ominously though the main subject of the article surrounded on the fact that that 2015-16 is in fact the last year of the Setanta-BT agreement and the possibility of BT going it alone in Ireland after that. Clearly its way too early, four months into a three year agreement, to be speculating on that prospect, but the Business Post decided to anyway.

    Perhaps Setanta should do a deal seeing them becoming a broadband and TV provider with BT or with Eircom. Also its worrying that Setanta assume that its is also alright to sell BT coverage of games they don't (as of yet) hold the rights to in Ireland.


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    #1372
    Onthe3rdDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    icdg wrote: »
    People really do have short memories.

    Indeed we do, you forget the weekly live game on Sports Stadium.:D


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    #1373
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Indeed I did!


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    #1374
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    anything else in the Business post article re Setanta and profitability? I wonder will BT go alone in 2015. It looks like BT are in for the long haul but a lot will hinge on the next premier league rights auction and what exactly they get out of that.


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    #1375
    batistuta9
    Registered Users Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Setanta is €1 for december https://secure.setantasubs.com/


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    #1376
    iba
    Registered Users Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭iba


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    Setanta is €1 for december https://secure.setantasubs.com/

    199 Euro for 10 months instead of 12. The mind boggles.


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    #1377
    batistuta9
    Registered Users Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    iba wrote: »
    199 Euro for 10 months instead of 12. The mind boggles.

    that's just a mix up

    the €1 is mentioned here too http://www.setanta.com/ie/subscribe
    do you think it's a misprint?


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    #1378
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Anyone try subscribing for the €1 price?


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    #1379
    paulboland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    Try Setanta Sports for the month of December for €1
    Monthly Package
    It says Try Setanta Sports for the Month of December

    1 Month only for €1
    December Only

    Normal Price is €19.99 a Month by Direct Debit

    Annual Package is €199 upfront 10 months price instead of paying 12 months €239.98
    12 months viewing for price of 10 months

    After December Normal Monthly Package would be €19.99 if you wanted to continue Subscribing
    I'm sure it will mention this when you try to take advantage of the 1 month Trial for €1

    Anyone thinking its only €1 every month it does say clearly Try Setanta Sports for the month of December
    But it might confuse some I guess


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    #1380
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Big thread here & the Setanta rep is fielding questions.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057096519

    Basically sign up now & you can cancel at the end of the month,total cost=€1.


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    #1381
    Widescreen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    I have a regular sky sub, but I would like to get BT on a spare box I have instead so I will have a chance of watching everything I want

    I have a white sky card which was used for multiroom up to being cancelled 2 years or so ago. The card delivers a message "this is the wrong set top box etc and will not clear channels such as lfc tv, so it seems inactive.

    If I rang setanta or subscribed on line would they be able to pair this card to the box? Also , does this card have the same status as any card setanta would send me? I just want to know whether I can use this card or will i have to get a new one sent out?

    Finally, is it only credit card you can pay by, when I had setanta previously you could set up a direct debit?

    thanks


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