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"Freemen" try to stop Gardaí arresting mother

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  • #32
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    This is the reason pepper spray and telescopic battons were invented ,

    Bleeding space cadets been smoking manure again in bogs
    360_F_102352090_ie3kLjDIvgrT1sxVDknWCUh8PxgMYzM7.jpg




  • #33
    downonthefarm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    are these the strawmen?had a cousin home from Canada recently. he was telling me it's taken off in a big way over there


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It gets worse the further through you go; "This lady is supposed to be accompanied by a female Gard." Who do they expect to enforce that law? :P


  • #35
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    camel jockey wrote: »
    The have rights (e.g. to the scratcher) but no responsibilities.

    Funny.. most of the videos that emerge of this bull**** seem to involve 'middle class' people with their heads up their own holes. Not the stereotypical welfare scrounger.


  • #36
    returnNull
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭returnNull


    downonthefarm wrote: »
    are these the strawmen?had a cousin home from Canada recently. he was telling me it's taken off in a big way over there

    It started off over there...


    The woman in the OPs video had a child that had to be taken onto care.The child promptly went missing along with the mother.They were found a few days later.
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cork-gardai-appeal-for-information-on-missing-boy-612696.html

    The FMoTL are fukking retards.

    have a read of the megathread in the legal discussion forum :)
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056353782


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  • #37
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Funny.. most of the videos that emerge of this bull**** seem to involve 'middle class' people with their heads up their own holes. Not the stereotypical welfare scrounger.
    Idiots who wouldn't have given a toss about "the downtrodden people of Ireland Joe" before they got into financial trouble.


  • #38
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Tayto of the family Crisp thinks this crowd are pure mad.


  • #39
    rovoagho
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭rovoagho


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    If these "freemen" are really true to their word let them revoke their Irish citizenship and let them try to survive without the states assistance.
    Give them Leitrim. That'll learn em.


  • #40
    onerone
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 28 ✭onerone


    Yeah but what about the baby? Does anyone know if she was a good mother or if the hse actually sell these babies on to other couples, is that even true


  • #41
    rogieop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rogieop


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Does anyone remember the case in Dundalk when they "successfully" saw off the Sheriff or whatever? Would love to know how that case turned out. :p

    i cant tell you too much but i can tell you one thing, his apartment is on daft! :pac:


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  • #42
    Pj!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Pj!


    Blay wrote: »
    This has to be one of the best Freeman cases;

    http://www.independent.ie/regionals/enniscorthyguardian/news/bobby-of-the-family-sludds-may-be-jailed-27250040.html
    :pac:

    Insurance, motor tax and NCT summonses followed against Sludds who told the officer at the time he was a 'free man travelling, not driving'.
    ...
    The accused refused to supply name or address and again said that he was 'travelling'. However, he did admit that there was an engine in the vehicle and a steering wheel in his hand.

    :rolleyes:


  • #43
    Thomas D
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Thomas D


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Funny.. most of the videos that emerge of this bull**** seem to involve 'middle class' people with their heads up their own holes. Not the stereotypical welfare scrounger.

    No these are all welfare scroungers. They have all the free time in the world and thats why they live on these facebook group and head to protests at the drop of a hat.

    The main guy in that video posted earlier lives on welfare and refused to pay child support. He actually posts up pictures of court letters on this.


  • #44
    Thomas D
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Thomas D


    rogieop wrote: »
    i cant tell you too much but i can tell you one thing, his apartment is on daft! :pac:

    For sale or rent? If that is the guy I'm thinking of he was renting it out for years and pocketing the rent. Yet he somehow mobilisied these anti eviction clowns for some misguided noble cause.


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rogieop wrote: »
    i cant tell you too much but i can tell you one thing, his apartment is on daft! :pac:

    If it's sold will he get the proceeds or will it go to the legal entity that bears his name? :pac:


  • #46
    Turpentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Turpentine


    Blay wrote: »
    This has to be one of the best Freeman cases;

    http://www.independent.ie/regionals/enniscorthyguardian/news/bobby-of-the-family-sludds-may-be-jailed-27250040.html

    Michael O'Grady reported that that BS PFN appeared to stand for 'Bobby Sludds, Private Free Man'. A more conventional registration plate, 91 WX 3554, was in the back of the Honda.


    :pac:


    It appears someone's opted-out of using proper acronyms.


  • #47
    Panthro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    They're not people, they're hippies!


  • #48
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Aestivalis wrote: »
    ...right. Was he supposed to look cooler than that or something?

    This is the REAL reason they have a problem with O'Reilly acting on Love/Hate, he sets too high a standard for how cool the rest of them are supposed to be ;)


  • #49
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    They are mistaken about tesco, it is actually Aldi that sells babies.


  • #50
    TireeTerror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    You are all mainly sheep, taught to obey. Very few people have original thought, you have been raised to think you have freedoms, but its an illusion. Mankind has never been so controlled at any point in history as it is now.


  • #51
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    TireeTerror wrote: »
    You are all mainly sheep, taught to obey.

    Calling others sheep doesn't mean you're not standing in the same field, or restricted by the same fences :rolleyes:
    Very few people have original thought

    Well that explains why so many of them appear to gobble up the bolloxology spread by freemen of the land...


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  • #52
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Where were the guards when the real criminals in the banks were committing financial terrorism? Why is it the entire Fianna Fail cabinet of 2007-2011 has not been apprehended for their crimes against the state?

    I have respect for the guards trying to do a job but who I do not have respect for is the Irish military a bunch of total cowards. Look over at Thailand this week thousands of people marching the streets of Bangkok and the military of that country preparing tentatively for another coup d'etat.

    We have no government in this country as far as I am concerned because they are not governing as instructed to do by us the people. Where is democracy if it is broken? A democratically elected Government is of no use if that government is corrupt and conspiring against its own people. The Gardai are supposed to be the keepers of the peace and the military the defenders of the nation, well our nation is under attack from its own within and this is where the Military should intervene and govern properly. There is more personal and financial freedom in China today than there is in the United States or here for that matter. So long as there is a Fianna Fail party in existence in this country then there will only be corruption and oppression of peoples freedom.


  • #53
    Cd_doe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Cd_doe


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Where were the guards when the real criminals in the banks were committing financial terrorism? Why is it the entire Fianna Fail cabinet of 2007-2011 has not been apprehended for their crimes against the state?

    I have respect for the guards trying to do a job but who I do not have respect for is the Irish military a bunch of total cowards. Look over at Thailand this week thousands of people marching the streets of Bangkok and the military of that country preparing tentatively for another coup d'etat.

    We have no government in this country as far as I am concerned because they are not governing as instructed to do by us the people. Where is democracy if it is broken? A democratically elected Government is of no use if that government is corrupt and conspiring against its own people. The Gardai are supposed to be the keepers of the peace and the military the defenders of the nation, well our nation is under attack from its own within and this is where the Military should intervene and govern properly. There is more personal and financial freedom in China today than there is in the United States or here for that matter. So long as there is a Fianna Fail party in existence in this country then there will only be corruption and oppression of peoples freedom.

    Dafuq??

    This is just pure irrelevant to the thread.
    It's as if you wrote a little essay and needed somewhere to put it!


  • #54
    Fratoue
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 71 ✭✭Fratoue


    Amazing people hate on these folk trying to stop a young terrified woman from being arrested (for what seems very little if anything). I'm convinced most folk on this would support a police state , lets be honest these folk are giving up spare time to support a woman and it's more than any keyboard jockey is doing on this. Talk is cheap. If I was being arrested for nothing/to little frankly I would like people supporting me.

    While I don't adhere to any website or freeman ideologies I refuse point blank to pay companies/corporations money for nothing. This is especially true of private car parking companies who's employees have quotas to fill. I don't bother even opening the envelopes of the tickets anymore, I'm not playing their extortion racket game, never have , never will.


  • #55
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,306 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    TireeTerror wrote: »
    You are all mainly sheep, taught to obey. Very few people have original thought, you have been raised to think you have freedoms, but its an illusion. Mankind has never been so controlled at any point in history as it is now.

    That is indeed true, but you make it sound like a bad thing.

    100/200 years ago there would have been a decent chance that I could get away with assaulting you, robbing your property, even a nice bit of murder would be unlikely to be solved.
    Similarly there was little education or health service.

    If we've evolved to agree on a police service to keep society civil, and we've agreed to pay taxes to provide for the public as a whole, then most seem to agree that whatever loss of personal control that this involves is a worthwhile price to pay.

    You can choose to view it as a negative 'mankind has never been so controlled at any point in history as it is now' though as always I suspect when theres a mad axeman in your garden you'll be happy society has paid for the telephone system/police/roads they use to get to your house.


  • #56
    General General
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    On reflection, it's clear that the Freeman/Freemen movement actually have the Jedi as role models... see how the guy calmly tells yer wan to say: I do not consent...

    I'm surprised he didn't wave his hand gently & say to one of the Gardai: this is not the woman you are looking for...

    & as has been pointed out, who does Jedi Master Red Jack`et think will enforce any of these laws that he thinks exist (especially confusing is his claim that the woman must be accompanied by a female Garda, is this under freeman law or real world law that he thinks doesn't apply?)? I suppose he thinks he & his fellow mind-controlling Jedi will... as soon as they get that Jedi mind-trick to work.

    Complete Spingos.


  • #57
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fratoue wrote: »
    Amazing people hate on these folk trying to stop a young terrified woman from being arrested (for what seems very little if anything). I'm convinced most folk on this would support a police state , lets be honest these folk are giving up spare time to support a woman and it's more than any keyboard jockey is doing on this. Talk is cheap. If I was being arrested for nothing/to little frankly I would like people supporting me.

    While I don't adhere to any website or freeman ideologies I refuse point blank to pay companies/corporations money for nothing. This is especially true of private car parking companies who's employees have quotas to fill. I don't bother even opening the envelopes of the tickets anymore, I'm not playing their extortion racket game, never have , never will.

    It's not hate, it's scorn and derision which is what they deserve and is not in the slightest bit amazing.

    When you say she was arrested for little or nothing what do you mean?

    Anyway I don't consent to this thread any more please stop it.


  • #58
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    downonthefarm wrote: »
    are these the strawmen?had a cousin home from Canada recently. he was telling me it's taken off in a big way over there

    It's related, in that it seems to be inspired by it, but it has the added Irish quirk in that here, the whole "movement" all seems to be traceable back to a little circle well dressed conmen at the heart of it. The poor schmucks we see in videos like this, who are getting arrested following nonsensical advice, learn it off the "legal experts" who charge them for the privilege of teaching them this mumbo jumbo.

    They're the loonies you see on the flyers on post boxes etc around Dublin and elsewhere about how government documentation with the wrong number of strings on the harp doesn't have legal authority, or how you can avoid paying your debts by changing your name etc.

    There's a thread about it in, I think, Legal Discussion that is well worth following for entertainment value. The linguistic magic spells they try to cast are just hilarious to hear from grown adults.

    To my knowledge, there has never, ever been a successful attempt to employ Freemen ideology in the courtroom.


  • #59
    Fratoue
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 71 ✭✭Fratoue


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    It's not hate, it's scorn and derision which is what they deserve and is not in the slightest bit amazing.

    When you say she was arrested for little or nothing what do you mean?

    Anyway I don't consent to this thread any more please stop it.

    Why do people you don't know from Adam helping a young woman deserve scorn and derision??:confused::confused:


  • #60
    az2wp0sye65487
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭az2wp0sye65487


    Who do freemen call when a crime has been committed against them if they don't recognise the authority of the gardai / courts...???


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  • #61
    Fratoue
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 71 ✭✭Fratoue


    Aubrey Agreeable Threshold wrote: »
    Who do freemen call when a crime has been committed against them if they don't recognise the authority of the gardai / courts...???

    Batman


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