Stupid ads about how wonderful alcohol is

seanie_c · 22-11-2013 03:09AM #1

Another vomit inducing advertisement about the Irish and our romance with alcohol by Tullamore Dew is being praised as "beautiful" by pseudo journalists on the internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h81oiF7VIOw

This Ad Exploits Every Irish Cliche And Stereotype Imaginable — And Is Still Astonishingly Beautiful

What a load of SH!T.

article here

Surely i'm not the only one sick of seeing the way alcohol is depicted in ads, especially in relation to Ireland.

An average of 88 people per month are dying of alcohol in Ireland and the manufacturers still glamorise it in every ad shown on TV.
Alcohol is a cancer on Irish society.

According to statistics here

it's costing us an estimated €3.7billion* a year in health, crime/public order and other ancillary costs, such as work-place absenteeism.

88 deaths every month in Ireland are directly attributable to alcohol
One in eleven children in Ireland say parental alcohol use has a negative effect on their lives – that is about109,684 children
There are 1,200 cases of cancer each year from alcohol in Ireland
One in four deaths of young men aged 15-39 in Ireland is due to alcohol
One in three road crash deaths is alcohol-related

We need to stop pretending consumption of alcohol is normal because it's setting a poor example to young people in Ireland that it's perfectly okay to do.

Look at the damage it's causing to society. It doesn't help to glamorise it in TV advertisements. And yes, I would support banning advertisements and especially sponsorship of sports...what a joke. Seriously, alcohol sponsorship of sports? Why not tobacco too?

Emotional branding expert, Graeme Newell discusses how the manufacturers of alcohol manipulate their audience with clever emotional based advertisements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVLe0xhalT8

Grayditch · 22-11-2013 03:13AM

Some people who drink alcohol are not a complete disaster.

Cookie_Monster · 22-11-2013 03:15AM

88 deaths every month in Ireland are directly attributable to alcohol
One in eleven children in Ireland say parental alcohol use has a negative effect on their lives – that is about109,684 children
There are 1,200 cases of cancer each year from alcohol in Ireland
One in four deaths of young men aged 15-39 in Ireland is due to alcohol
One in three road crash deaths is alcohol-related

replace 'alcohol' with 'alcohol abuse' in every one of those and they may begin to hold true, otherwise is just sensationalist nonesense with an agenda.

Look at the damage it's causing to society.

it does no damage to the vast majority of society who enjoy reasonable levels of intake.

we'llallhavetea · 22-11-2013 03:15AM

I don't think I've once bought a drink based on a tv advert.
cheap wine ftw

Vito Corleone · 22-11-2013 03:15AM

I can't wait for the Christmas Guinness ad. Once that comes on I get in the Christmas mood. :cool:

"Even in the home of the black stuff, we dream of a white one."

seanie_c · 22-11-2013 03:16AM

Grayditch wrote: »

Some people who drink alcohol are not a complete disaster.

Not exactly a huge success either.

Grayditch · 22-11-2013 03:16AM

seanie_c wrote: »

Not exactly a huge success either.

What?

SparkySpitfire · 22-11-2013 03:18AM

Oh stop being so sensationalist. Obviously this is close to your heart but do you really need to proselytize?

We need to stop pretending consumption of alcohol is normal because it's setting a poor example to young people in Ireland that it's perfectly okay to do.

It is. However, OVER consumption and abuse of alcohol is wrong and people should be taught to respect their bodies and their limits when it comes to alcohol consumption.

Also, it's is possible for media to depict horrible content in a stylistically beautiful way.

seanie_c · 22-11-2013 03:19AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

replace 'alcohol' with 'alcohol abuse' in every one of those and they may begin to hold true, otherwise is just sensationalist nonesense with an agenda.

it does no damage to the vast majority of society who enjoy reasonable levels of intake.

Yeah, 88 people per month dying of alcohol abuse is really nothing.
Doesn't even consider the abuse towards other people in society like women or children suffering domestic abuse.

Alcohol is fantastic....yeah.
My concern for society and the effects of alcohol consumption are purely based on a hidden agenda.

SparkySpitfire · 22-11-2013 03:22AM

seanie_c wrote: »

Yeah, 88 people per month dying of alcohol abuse is really nothing.
Doesn't even consider the abuse towards other people in society like women or children suffering domestic abuse.

Alcohol is fantastic....yeah.
My concern for society and the effects of alcohol consumption are purely based on a hidden agenda.

Did you even bother to read Cookie's post?
The point is alcohol is not evil, the ABUSE of said substance is what the problem is.

Alcohol ABUSE leads to death. And that is a problem. Alcohol itself, is not.

seanie_c · 22-11-2013 03:24AM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

Did you even bother to read Cookie's post?
The point is alcohol is not evil, the ABUSE of said substance is what the problem is.

Alcohol ABUSE leads to death. And that is a problem. Alcohol itself, is not.

And does that mean you agree glamorising it in media like radio and TV is a good thing?

How exactly does this substance enhance the lives of Irish people the way it's depicted in TV advertisements like Tullamore Dew?

Karl Stein · 22-11-2013 03:25AM

Dumb advert seeks dumber audience.

seanie_c · 22-11-2013 03:27AM

Vito Corleone wrote: »

I can't wait for the Christmas Guinness ad. Once that comes on I get in the Christmas mood. :cool:

"Even in the home of the black stuff, we dream of a white one."

No doubt they won't be showing you the women being beat up and raped over the holiday season because of alcohol abuse. Or the high rate of male suicides...

I can see Ireland is never going to change it's attitude towards alcohol consumption.

Drink up... :pac:

Grayditch · 22-11-2013 03:28AM

There's a difference between advertising alcohol and glamourising drunkeness.

"Look at these ridiculous ads where people drink and everything is ok"

This might come as a shock, but THAT HAPPENS! I'll be with you if you said there is far too little effort made to stop people drinking too much, but ads for alchohol? Get over it. We're not all victims of the addiction.

SparkySpitfire · 22-11-2013 03:31AM

seanie_c wrote: »

And does that mean you agree glamorising it in media like radio and TV is a good thing?

How exactly does this substance enhance the lives of Irish people the way it's depicted in TV advertisements like Tullamore Dew?

If you think I'm going to waste a precious 2 minutes of my life by watching an advert, you are sorely mistaken. That's why I have Sky.

seanie_c · 22-11-2013 03:32AM

Grayditch wrote: »

There's a difference between advertising alcohol and glamourising drunkeness.

Of course they don't glamorise drunkenness, they imply you'll have a fantastic time drinking it though and yet rarely do I see anyone enjoying themselves after a few drinks in a bar or club.

I see more people lying collapsed on the street among broken glass and the contents of someone's stomach than happiness overall.
Or some fight is breaking out, or a couple are arguing...it's pure BS.

It's a complete waste of time, money, health...and yet these ads would have many believe it's great stuff.

Grayditch · 22-11-2013 03:34AM

Incredible post. I'm speechless.

April O Neill II · 22-11-2013 03:35AM

aya startin wha wrote: »

I don't think I've once bought a drink based on a tv advert.

No one ever thinks advertising works on them.

:pac:

April O Neill II · 22-11-2013 03:36AM

Vito Corleone wrote: »

"Even in the home of the black stuff, we dream of a white one."

I hate the whispered 'Happy Christmas' after that sentence, it makes my skin crawl.

SparkySpitfire · 22-11-2013 03:39AM

seanie_c wrote: »

Of course they don't glamorise drunkenness, they imply you'll have a fantastic time drinking it though and yet rarely do I see anyone enjoying themselves after a few drinks in a bar or club.

I see more people lying collapsed on the street among broken glass and the contents of someone's stomach than happiness overall.
Or some fight is breaking out, or a couple are arguing...it's pure BS.

It's a complete waste of time, money, health...and yet these ads would have many believe it's great stuff.

You do realise that different people have different limits and reactions to alcohol? And that these people should realise that drink is not for them and they should curb/stop their intake?

You also realise that most people can go out for a few drinks, have a good time and not go on a drunken violent rampage after?

Right? Right?

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General General · 22-11-2013 03:41AM

This thread is the most heart-breakingly astonishingliest thread ever.

Just end it here... before some f`cken thanks whore steps in & rooooo-ins it.

seanie_c · 22-11-2013 03:44AM

Grayditch wrote: »

Incredible post. I'm speechless.

I'm just telling you what I've observed on streets of Ireland by people consuming alcohol. Maybe you're speechless because you know it does more harm to Irish society than anything else.

Seriously, go to any major Irish town and ask Gardai, Health services incl. womens refuge how many times a week they have to deal with physical assaults, criminal damage, rapes, domestic violence, car accidents, suicides, self harm...ALL because of alcohol....

Then come back and tell me what's so nonsensical about my arguments.
Attitudes towards alcohol in Ireland are really messed up.

Any wonder the rest of the world laugh at us with regard to alcohol consumption.

General General · 22-11-2013 03:51AM

seanie_c wrote: »

Seriously, go to any major Irish town and ask Gardai, Health services incl. womens refuge how many times a week they have to deal with physical assaults, criminal damage, rapes, domestic violence, car accidents, suicides, self harm...ALL because of alcohol....

They'd say that, would they? ...that it's ALL because of alcohol? or did you just make that up to bolster your argument with some hyperbolics?

seanie_c wrote: »

Any wonder the rest of the world laugh at us with regard to alcohol consumption.

Jesus H. Wept.

Most of the rest of the world don't think of us... from one end of the day... to the next.

Grayditch · 22-11-2013 03:52AM

He's drunk on bull****. Who knows what he'll say next.

Canis Lupus · 22-11-2013 03:58AM

seanie_c wrote: »

Of course they don't glamorise drunkenness, they imply you'll have a fantastic time drinking it though and yet rarely do I see anyone enjoying themselves after a few drinks in a bar or club.

I see more people lying collapsed on the street among broken glass and the contents of someone's stomach than happiness overall.
Or some fight is breaking out, or a couple are arguing...it's pure BS.

It's a complete waste of time, money, health...and yet these ads would have many believe it's great stuff.

You should have a drink... You sound like you need to relax.

Cookie_Monster · 22-11-2013 04:06AM

seanie_c wrote: »

And does that mean you agree glamorising it in media like radio and TV is a good thing?

people die on the roads all the time yet motor racing is glamorised....
it's not the same thing, not at all, just like me saying motor racing causes road deaths is silly.

seanie_c wrote: »

How exactly does this substance enhance the lives of Irish people the way it's depicted in TV advertisements like Tullamore Dew?

it's a relaxant, it's tasty, people get enjoyment from it. There's plenty of other things advertised that can kill if you abuse it, 'bad' food and obesity is a far far far larger (geddit

) problem, do you have the same problems with McDonald advertising or Tayto or Coke?

Frynge · 22-11-2013 04:12AM

For the last last twelve years our ( Ireland's) alcohol consumption has been decreasing. This is not new info.

Yes if you look for a problem you will find it but the problem is not alcohol it is ABUSE of alcohol that is the problem. As already stated.

I'm sure if you look hard enough you will find someone who abuses kettles, should we ban them too.

April O Neill II · 22-11-2013 04:19AM

Frynge wrote: »

For the last last twelve years our ( Ireland's) alcohol consumption has been decreasing. This is not new info.

Fairly sure that's wrong. Ireland's alcohol consumption soared during the boom years AFAIK.

Davelarson · 22-11-2013 11:05AM

The worst thing about that ad was the guy randomly quoting poetry, mainly because I know a few tossers in real life who do just that.

Davelarson · 22-11-2013 11:09AM

General General wrote: »

They'd say that, would they? ...that it's ALL because of alcohol? or did you just make that up to bolster your argument with some hyperbolics?

Jesus H. Wept.

Most of the rest of the world don't think of us... from one end of the day... to the next.

While I do think seanie_c is going a bit Maude Flanders on us, I remember teaching English to a class of foreign students. As I recall there was Japanese, Koreans, Italians, Spanish, Saudis, and few others. I asked them do they think Irish people drink too much and everyone of them said yes.

junior_apollo · 22-11-2013 11:15AM

Davelarson wrote: »

While I do think seanie_c is going a bit Maude Flanders on us, I remember teaching English to a class of foreign students. As I recall there was Japanese, Koreans, Italians, Spanish, Saudis, and few others. I asked them do they think Irish people drink too much and everyone of them said yes.

Did they know a lot of Irish people to be able to stereotype or were they basing their opinions on their teacher?

Stupid ads about how wonderful alcohol is

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