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Farming Chit Chat III

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  • #3782
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    bob charles wrote: »
    Thats great to hear, once the dust settles, things will be better in the long run. Were they all U grade calves Reilig?

    All but 2 of them would have been. They were twins. I'm about to buy a bull. Was considering a few breeds but now it'll definitely be a ch.


  • #3783
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,149 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    reilig wrote: »
    Sold half of my spring born weanlings yesterday. Heifers are going great. Bulls are back slightly - especially ones for export. However, all in all, bulls with heifers they left about the same as last year. 22 out in total. Some prices:

    CH heifer 440kg €990
    CH heifer 380kg €910
    CH Heifer 300kg €800 (only 190 days old)
    BB Heifer 310kg €820

    CH Bull 420kg €900
    CH Bull 320kg €840
    CH Bull 270kg €790 (May Calf)
    BB Bull 310kg €850

    Very small amount of cattle on offer, but plenty of buyers.

    interesting to note that the BB still made the most per kilo despite all the doom and gloom


  • #3784
    Conmaicne Mara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Out of the Journal piece on 50:50 co funding but regarding IFA CAP meeting in Claremorris, which I attended:

    "John Bryan outlined his vision
    of a balanced CAP deal
    in Claremorris, Co Mayo, to a
    hostile. He won them over
    that night, explaining that
    support for active farmers
    meant two pillars working in
    harmony."

    Horse****. Utter and total.


  • #3785
    Midlandsman80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Midlandsman80


    See from data in back of FJ today on mart in tuam and the top three lots on it were BB's and top lot in Pic was 28cent per kg ahead of 4th placed CH, very small group to be any way representative, but presume they pick from a decent amount of cattle for this spread and pics top lots and its hard to ignore that the top 3 lots were BBX, (none of them too extreme either)...I can see them falling back close in line with CH..


  • #3786
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I know from reading articles written on cattle aales that I've been at, that paper never refuses ink. It's all down to who's reporting, their biases and what angle they want to protray.


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  • #3787
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Midlandsman80 wrote: »
    I can see them falling back close in line with CH..

    From my own point of view, BB's fell back in line with CH about 3 years ago. If you had a good quality CH Bull calf, he has been worth as much as a BB for that length of time. At this stage, the CH is probably more valuable - only exceptional BB calves beat a CH now.

    From my point of view, the advantages to the BB were:
    1. Easy calving - less assisted calvings with BB than CH. BB won't usually form double muscke until a few months old.
    2. Ideal for crossing with black LimX cows. These cows tend to have more milk than a yellow or red cow. A Ch on one of these black cows would bring a gray coloured calf. A Bb will bring a black and white calf.
    3. Hardier. BB will be up and sucking quicker than a big soft CH.
    4. BB's convert creep meal to kg's better than CH. ie. More return for money invested in meal.

    If we could get the same €/kg for BB as CH these days, i'd be happy enough!


  • #3788
    onyerbikepat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭onyerbikepat


    reilig wrote: »
    3. Hardier. BB will be up and sucking quicker than a big soft CH.
    I find the BB are not as hardy later in life though. Always the first to get snotty noses when the weather gets bad. Have always found them to be easy calving, in fairness. I dont think i'll use BB straws again. For the cows I have, I think a good Lim or easy calving charolais is a better bet.


  • #3789
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Nice weather forecast in the FJ :)


  • #3790
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    onyerbikepat wrote: »
    I find the BB are not as hardy later in life though. Always the first to get snotty noses when the weather gets bad. Have always found them to be easy calving, in fairness. I dont think i'll use BB straws again. For the cows I have, I think a good Lim or easy calving charolais is a better bet.

    You see, up till now, that has not been my problem. I calve them in February and March and get rid of them in October/November. I have had very few health issues with them. Once I have a market for them, i'm happy. We will have to see what next year brings!

    If you have a muscley Ch bull, he could get snotty too with bad weather. It must be the muscle that causes it.

    You are right though - you have to breed to your cows strengths. My CHX, LMX and BBX cows are all put in calf to the CH stock bull. Only the black cows get BB. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise, but this year i had trouble picking them out and several of the black cows went to a LIm stock bull. I'll have no more than 5 Bb's on the ground next year!


  • #3791
    Sharpshooter82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    reilig wrote: »
    Huge demand for heifers. Plenty of farmers buying them and not afraid to dig deep to buy something that takes their fancy.

    Noticed that today in Delvin mart, threw my eye on it there earlier. AA and HE are well up from sept when I last sold


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  • #3792
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    reilig wrote: »
    4. BB's convert creep meal to kg's better than CH. ie. More return for money invested in meal.

    Id have to disagree with you there.
    No doubt you'll quote some trial done somewhere to prove me wrong.
    But I can't go along with that.


  • #3793
    jomoloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Id have to disagree with you there.
    No doubt you'll quote some trial done somewhere to prove me wrong.
    But I can't go along with that.

    we gave up commercial suckling about 7 years about

    done a fair bit of showing and show sales

    the bb were winning the rosettes but when the books were balanced it was the limousin that were leaving the most profit

    if looking for milk in lmx dam go for one that's white around the udder abeit red or black


  • #3794
    Midlandsman80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Midlandsman80


    When sending animals to the factory when do ye stop feeding meal?


  • #3795
    dharn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    5 minutes before ,to help gathering / loading


  • #3796
    ABlur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭ABlur


    Kovu Murr wrote: »
    Nice weather forecast in the FJ :)


    I'm hoping for at least three weeks of this weather for my cattle outwintering experiment!


  • #3797
    dharn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    Ya moving through a field with about 10 inchesgof grass ,it got ahead of me in the last month, moving fence a few times a day, high dry field ,it could last another 3 weeks, could not believe how nice today was cattle so happy ;)


  • #3798
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    is today nearly over:mad:


  • #3799
    Viewtodiefor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    Can u spread lime now? Any stupid deadlines for it?


  • #3800
    Viewtodiefor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    whelan1 wrote: »
    is today nearly over:mad:

    Once u put ur head under the covers Whelan !


  • #3801
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    Viewtodiefor wrote: »
    Once u put ur head under the covers Whelan !
    can i do that now please


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  • #3802
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    whelan1 wrote: »
    can i do that now please
    What !!
    And no wine ??


  • #3803
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Id have to disagree with you there.
    No doubt you'll quote some trial done somewhere to prove me wrong.
    But I can't go along with that.

    Each to their own experience I suppose. It's just what I find with my own cattle. Different breeding / feeding / farming produces different results ;)


  • #3804
    Conmaicne Mara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    whelan1 wrote: »
    is today nearly over:mad:

    4 hours 24 minutes left, but we can close today early if it suits?


  • #3805
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    bbam wrote: »
    What !!
    And no wine ??
    ah just one of those days:mad: from start to finish and it aint over yet


  • #3806
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    Conmaicne Mara wrote: »
    4 hours 24 minutes left, but we can close today early if it suits?
    no still have to do the words with youngest lad- fecking hate doing words


  • #3807
    bob charles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Conmaicne Mara wrote: »
    4 hours 24 minutes left, but we can close today early if it suits?

    enjoy today, tomorrow might be worse:D:D


  • #3808
    Conmaicne Mara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    whelan1 wrote: »
    no still have to do the words with youngest lad- fecking hate doing words

    Tessellate is a stupid word :)


  • #3809
    Conmaicne Mara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    bob charles wrote: »
    enjoy today, tomorrow might be worse:D:D

    The light at the end of the tunnel is the on coming train eh Bob :D


  • #3810
    bob charles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Conmaicne Mara wrote: »
    The light at the end of the tunnel is the on coming train eh Bob :D

    sure feels like it this week, better get out of the way as I dont want to damage it


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  • #3811
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    bob charles wrote: »
    enjoy today, tomorrow might be worse:D:D
    yup, cant wait for tomorrow....:cool:


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