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Irish Independent jouno Conor George gets caught rapih' [MOD WARNING POST 36]

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    #92
    durkadurka
    Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    There aren't many Irish rugby journalists who do have rugby background.

    Farrelly had a rugby background. Didn't make him much better.

    So does Hook!


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    #93
    durkadurka
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    I'll have to take your word for it, I'm too uncool to have a linked in account :o

    Yeah. All the madsers are on LinkedIn ...


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    #94
    Rightwing
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    Farrelly had a rugby background. Didn't make him much better.

    So does Hook!

    So does, Ward, Toland, Quinny, Francis, that's the way the trend is going.


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    #95
    Swiwi.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Farrelly had a rugby background. Didn't make him much better.

    So does Hook!

    Yeah, but even if I don't always go along with their views, at least they're formed out of rugby up-bringing...

    ...rather than using google to see what other people are writing and cutting and pasting it into an Indo article. I could never take CG seriously, and then of course his foolish tweets were the icing on the cake.


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    #96
    CatFromHue
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    Does Brendan Fanning have a rugby background?

    I'm not sure but I would read his articles. Gerry Thornley used to be good too until he got too close to the players and management and I don't think he's a rugby background.

    Having a rugby back ground is not a pre requisite for me to be honest.


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    #97
    durkadurka
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Yeah, but even if I don't always go along with their views, at least they're formed out of rugby up-bringing...

    ...rather than using google to see what other people are writing and cutting and pasting it into an Indo article. I could never take CG seriously, and then of course his foolish tweets were the icing on the cake.

    For your amusement here's a quote from his LinkedIn

    • Excellent working knowledge of social media, including Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn


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    #98
    awec
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    Too many journos here have their own agenda that they are pushing. For CG that was ROG - and once ROG retired CG became a bit of an irrelevance.


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    #99
    Camilo Fierce Goose
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    Devastating news.

    Means I'll need a new sig :pac:


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    #100
    Podge_irl
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    I'll have to take your word for it, I'm too uncool to have a linked in account :o

    Well that's cause people in your profession have an incredibly cushy number :P

    I don't have an issue with a journalist not having a "rugby background" per se. CG is just an incredibly non-astute observer of the game.


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    #101
    Swiwi.
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    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Does Brendan Fanning have a rugby background?

    I'm not sure but I would read his articles. Gerry Thornley used to be good too until he got too close to the players and management and I don't think he's a rugby background.

    Having a rugby back ground is not a pre requisite for me to be honest.

    It definitely is for me. Sure if they are just regurgitating soundbites etc any journalist will do, but for a proper analytical piece I like someone who has a bit of knowledge: hence I would always read Brian Moore for example.


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    #102
    P_1
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    Nothing wrong with a reporter not having a rugby background in my eyes, as long as you're able to report on matches and news in an objective way you're good for the job, sadly the bould Conor has shown that he wasn't best suited to the task


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    #103
    jamiedav2011
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Whatever you think about CG, my main bone of contention with him is that - as far as I'm aware - he has no rugby background. Whatsoever. Before anyone gets too excited, he's not on annual leave, or some other simple explanation?

    Sorry Swiwi, that's irrelevent. Shouldn't make a difference. Obviously having played the game is an advantage, but a 'rugby background' does not a good journalist make.


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    #104
    Buer
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Whatever you think about CG, my main bone of contention with him is that - as far as I'm aware - he has no rugby background. Whatsoever. Before anyone gets too excited, he's not on annual leave, or some other simple explanation?

    Which is why he fit in so well in Irish journalism given the likes of some of the most successful rugby journalists in the country.

    Johnny Waterson, former Irish hockey player and now, inexplicably, one of the main rugby writers with The Irish Times.

    Gerry Thornley, The Irish Times tennis correspondent who graduated to LOI football before realising that he had an amazing ability to cosy up to Irish rugby players and tell them exactly what they wanted to hear. Known for his love of Geordan Murphy and apparent fear of grooming.

    I don't think having a history within the game is a pre-requisite for being a journalist on the game. However, some of the guys (both those above, for example) provide very little insight into the game and regularly get facts wrong.


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    #105
    Swiwi.
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    jamiedav2011 wrote: »
    Sorry Swiwi, that's nonsense. Shouldn't make a difference. Obviously having played the game is an advantage, but a 'rugby background' does not a good journalist make.

    Ok, I'm getting the message loud & clear from the forum, I'm a rugby snob :(


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    #106
    Buer
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    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Does Brendan Fanning have a rugby background?

    I'm not sure but I would read his articles. Gerry Thornley used to be good too until he got too close to the players and management and I don't think he's a rugby background.

    Having a rugby back ground is not a pre requisite for me to be honest.

    Fanning does. I'm not sure if he still is a member but he played for Clontarf for a long time and I've seen him at AIL games as a supporter a few times.

    Thornley doesn't.


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    #107
    durkadurka
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    P_1 wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with a reporter not having a rugby background in my eyes, as long as you're able to report on matches and news in an objective way you're good for the job, sadly the bould Conor has shown that he wasn't best suited to the task

    He was a fan with a laptop.

    The PRO of the lions cut him down to size at the time of BOD's dropping


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    #108
    thomond2006
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    The PRO of the lions cut him down to size at the time of BOD's dropping

    Do tell?


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    #109
    .ak
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Ok, I'm getting the message loud & clear from the forum, I'm a rugby snob :(

    Is that all those ITM medals weighing your conscience down? :pac:


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    #110
    P_1
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Ok, I'm getting the message loud & clear from the forum, I'm a rugby snob :(

    I think the polite term is 'traditionalist' :P


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    #111
    Swiwi.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    .ak wrote: »
    Is that all those ITM medals weighing your conscience down? :pac:

    Nah, I retired at age-grade level...


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    #112
    .ak
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Nah, I retired at age-grade level...

    Good call. Never would've been a fair match. The Canterbury Tank. ;)


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    #113
    durkadurka
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Do tell?

    When BOD was dropped for third test, he came out with his usual joke shop type stuff on twitter but the Lions PRO tweeted back and called him a fan with laptop. Tweets deleted now from what I can see.


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    #114
    phog
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    durkadurka wrote: »

    He lost his source of scoops when ROG retired

    Probably as accurate as one of Connor's articles.


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    #115
    P_1
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    When BOD was dropped for third test, he came out with his usual joke shop type stuff on twitter but the Lions PRO tweeted back and called him a fan with laptop. Tweets deleted now from what I can see.

    Anybody else slightly disappointed that it wasn't a withering look at a press conference type scenario?


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    #116
    durkadurka
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Do tell?

    Found it

    https://twitter.com/gregbthomas/status/352286494603485185


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    #117
    thomond2006
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    Found it

    https://twitter.com/gregbthomas/status/352286494603485185

    I'm disappointed, I was hoping it came from the Lions official account! :D


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    #118
    .ak
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    Found it

    https://twitter.com/gregbthomas/status/352286494603485185

    In fairness that's a total case of pot, kettle, black.


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    #119
    durkadurka
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I'm disappointed, I was hoping it came from the Lions official account! :D

    Sure the official account was completely off the wall!


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    #120
    durkadurka
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    .ak wrote: »
    In fairness that's a total case of pot, kettle, black.

    Fair point, but it caused poor Conor to engage in another bout of tweet deleting .


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    #121
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    .ak wrote: »
    In fairness that's a total case of pot, kettle, black.

    Ya, that media manager posted some very dodgy stuff too at the start of the tour


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