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Season 4, Episode 6 - Live Bait [AMC] [Spoilers]

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  • #2
    Cork boy 55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    New cast, maybe?
    There are 2 recurring roles currently being cast: a single mother and former nurse named Laura and a tough and funny woman named Melody. The guest star role of Don is also being cast; he's 50-70 years old, is kind but sometimes grumpy, and has a granddaughter.

    Taken from: SpoilerTV http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/06/the-walking-dead-episode-406-title-and.html#ixzz2keQnEt2j


  • #3
    Grimebox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    Your supposed to feel sympathy for The Governor in case you didn't catch that


  • #4
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    anyone else think the nurse bears a striking resemblance to Maggie?


  • #5
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    that was a great ep


  • #6
    Kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    When she said her name was Lilly, was I the only one who thought we were about to see a Telltale games / tv show crossover? :P


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  • #7
    thegreengoblin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Cracking episode....am we allowed to mention/discuss the
    Rise of the Governor novel
    here? :cool:


  • #8
    Lone Stone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    Well that was surprisingly good, last week i was a bit like ow for fep sake him again. Was a great episode though. Only thing that annoyed me was the way your woman fell over and hurt her ankle.


  • #9
    smcgiff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    thegreengoblin wrote: »
    we allowed to mention/discuss the
    Rise of the Governor novel
    here? :cool:

    Re Rise of the Governer Novel
    It's been a while since I read that Novel, but it comes at the start of the book if I recall. And it's out of sync with the TV series

    Very enjoyable ep.

    It also flew, couldn't believe it when the ending came.


  • #10
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Very good indeed, next weeks will be promising. Also the Governor seems to have the most success with the ladies in the series.


  • #11
    Brozy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Brozy


    Have it downloaded and ready to go, sister won't let me watch it without her so have to watch a few hours. Sounds like it should be a good episode!


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  • #12
    DeepBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    smcgiff wrote: »
    Re Rise of the Governer Novel
    It's been a while since I read that Novel, but it comes at the start of the book if I recall. And it's out of sync with the TV series
    Yeah,
    Penny wasn't really his daughter in the novel but in the TV series she was shwn by the photo of him with his wife and daughter.

    Was waiting the whole episode for the Governor to fcuk them over somehow especially given the episode title. Was surprised when he didn't.

    Also, first episode with no Rick?


  • #13
    smcgiff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    Penny wasn't really his daughter in the novel but in the TV series she was shwn by the photo of him with his wife and daughter.
    I'm compartmentalising them into at least two different universes - TV series and the comics. Not sure which the novels follow or are a third universe. I've only read The Rise of the Governor, but it's hard to see how he turned into the psycho at Woodbury from the character that finished in book 1


  • #14
    LandoCalrissian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭LandoCalrissian


    Have to say very happy with that episode

    however the trip/fall was absolutely ridiculous I've seen better acting in nativity plays

    Also looking forward to next weeks episode having seen the trailer


  • #15
    Lone Stone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    LandoCalrissian wrote: »
    Have to say very happy with that episode

    however the trip/fall was absolutely ridiculous I've seen better acting in nativity plays

    Also looking forward to next weeks episode having seen the trailer

    "CAW CAW" twirl, faceplant amagawd zombies


  • #16
    Grimebox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    Probably the best episode of the series so far for me. I'm completely fed up with the rest of the cast at this stage. I'd follow an entire series based on this guy going around on his own.


  • #17
    thegreengoblin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    smcgiff wrote: »
    I'm compartmentalising them into at least two different universes - TV series and the comics. Not sure which the novels follow or are a third universe. I've only read The Rise of the Governor, but it's hard to see how he turned into the psycho at Woodbury from the character that finished in book 1

    That's probably the best way to view it. I actually like the way they bring stuff in from the books and comics to the TV series but give it a fresh twist. It keeps it interesting for fans of all formats.


  • #18
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    Nice contrast this week. Slightly relived to not be in the prison this week. Feel like an escapee as the viewer, being able to watch something different. Great episode. Some brutal killings in the hole from the governor.

    Happy I watched the clip from next week at the end of the episode. Could have sworn
    those two girls were shot and killed by the governor's right hand men
    .


  • #19
    thegreengoblin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    Nice contrast this week. Slightly relived to not be in the prison this week. Feel like an escapee as the viewer, being able to watch something different. Great episode. Some brutal killings in the hole from the governor.

    Happy I watched the clip from next week at the end of the episode. Could have sworn
    those two girls were shot and killed by the governor's right hand men
    .

    That scene was fantastic, those killings were pure primal stuff. Brilliant scene also when the old man turned in the bedroom.


  • #20
    LOSTfan57
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭LOSTfan57


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    Yeah,
    Penny wasn't really his daughter in the novel but in the TV series she was shwn by the photo of him with his wife and daughter.

    Was waiting the whole episode for the Governor to fcuk them over somehow especially given the episode title. Was surprised when he didn't.

    Also, first episode with no Rick?

    2nd after "Walk With Me" :)


  • #21
    PhiloCypher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    Grimebox wrote: »
    Probably the best episode of the series so far for me. I'm completely fed up with the rest of the cast at this stage. I'd follow an entire series based on this guy going around on his own.

    It was another great ep alright but not the best this season let alone the series as a whole for me . I really hope they know what they are doing with the Governor and that this two episode break(based on next weeks preview) from the prison narrative doesn't see the fallout of Ricks Exile of Carol completely bypassed as I was really looking foward to that.


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  • #22
    pixelburp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    One thing I've noticed a lot of in season 4, and this episode was no exception, is silence. Many scenes go by with very little in the way of dialogue, if any. Often all you can hear is ambient noise and the near-constant hiss of the walkers. It feels like TV series confident it can show rather than tell, using looks, gestures and the camera to tell the story. That's a stark contrast to the depths that season 2 sank with its incessant bickering and telegraphing of emotions. What dialogue there is can still be pretty ropey, but it's to the writers credit that they're using their actors and the stage more effectively.

    A pretty strong episode anyway, even if I can't quite get behind the idea of trying to make us sympathise with The Governor, or offer him a chance at redemption; given all the things he has done it seems a little strange he'd be given this chance. As soon as he befriended the little girl it was clear how things were going to pan out.

    The ankle-twist was hilarious bad though, and I don't quite follow why the Gov figured running into the wood was a good tactic; less visibility, sure footing and ability to get ones bearings. Sensible!


  • #23
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    very good episode, yet it did feel very disjointed and out-of-sync with the season to date.

    All this virus/illness stuff still hasn't reached any sort of conclusion, they devote 5 episodes to it then they give us this. And seemingly next week will be more of the same, thus returning to the Prison stuff for mid-season finale.

    For one thing, viewers were already beginning to lose interest with the virus storyline so i don't see how this interlude/mini-arc with the Gov is going to change that.

    Ultimately, as a stand-alone episode it was excellent but i'd question the timing of it myself.


  • #24
    Grimebox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    PhiloCypher wrote: »
    It was another great ep alright but not the best this season let alone the series as a whole for me . I really hope they know what they are doing with the Governor and that this two episode break(based on next weeks preview) from the prison narrative doesn't see the fallout of Ricks Exile of Carol completely bypassed as I was really looking foward to that.

    I think the entire prison narrative is rudderless


  • #25
    PhiloCypher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    Grimebox wrote: »
    I think the entire prison narrative is rudderless

    I don't think that's a negative so long as the episodes are good and for me they have been. I'm sure now that the virus storyline has run its course the main arc of the season will begin to take shape.

    Based on the previews might they be adapting comic book Spoiler
    the cannibals arc from the comics

    Come what may tho I'm pretty sure the Mega herd will come back into things by seasons end otherwise why bother showing it at all.


  • #26
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    pixelburp wrote: »
    One thing I've noticed a lot of in season 4, and this episode was no exception, is silence. Many scenes go by with very little in the way of dialogue, if any. Often all you can hear is ambient noise and the near-constant hiss of the walkers. It feels like TV series confident it can show rather than tell, using looks, gestures and the camera to tell the story.

    Just like the nursing home scene. Absolutely perfect, almost in a horror movie sort of style. Very little dialogue with the emphasis on the music and ambient noise to create that tension.


  • #27
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    The very definition of a filler episode. I skipped through the whole thing in about 10 minutes and don't think I missed out on anything.


  • #28
    PhiloCypher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    While I really enjoyed the episode I'm with Wonderfullife in questioning it's episode placement just when things were going to get very interesting between Rick and Daryl. It just seems such an odd place to jump narrative tracks.

    I'm also pretty surprised at how universally well liked the episode has been on here considering previous episodes with a similar ratio of character work to zombie violence have pretty much been called snorefests where nothing much happens by some on here. . I guess it comes down to how engaged you are by the actor in questions performance.


  • #29
    Nervous Wreck
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    PhiloCypher wrote: »
    While I really enjoyed the episode I'm with Wonderfullife in questioning it's episode placement just when things were going to get very interesting between Rick and Daryl. It just seems such an odd place to jump narrative tracks.

    I'm also pretty surprised at how universally well liked the episode has been on here considering previous episodes with a similar ratio of character work to zombie violence have pretty much been called snorefests where nothing much happens. I guess it comes down to how engaged you are by the actor in questions performance.

    I'm not so sure. I think the break from the prison (and the group) arc is the main draw for this episode. Like, I don't particularly see the huge appeal in the dude who plays the Guv. He's a pretty good actor yeah, but he's hugely overrated by fans of the show. Andrew Lincoln is easily the better actor and more likeable character. But we've been through the same three storylines with Rick so often and in the same way that even seeing a different actor do the same kinda thing is refreshing.


  • #30
    A Neurotic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    The very definition of a filler episode. I skipped through the whole thing in about 10 minutes and don't think I missed out on anything.

    But you did catch the scene where
    the Governor finds the cure for the zombie virus
    , right?


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  • #31
    Zero-Cool
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    Brilliant episode, beaming when he met tara and april. The Rise of the Governor is one of the best books I have read in ages. Highly recommend it.


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