Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay wrote: »

You're in wintermilk also though Jersey, strip out any of the autumn/late spring ladies and that figure will drop. Mahoney has a point though, for anyone in spring milk, do a quick calculation of what you're paying yourself per hour, and if it aint worth turning on the machine then dry them off, simple as is. One of the lads over on forum4farming.com worked out at the end of the day, milking in december last year only paid him 3quid per hour!

But 54c/l was exceptional ha, the crap silage last year left me with a dec fat of 3.6, and protein 3.05!

Finally someone sees where I'm comming from!!agree with you Jersey it ain't about volume but it is about having a good volume as well as high solids but as Tim pointed out that high priced was proably due to your winter bonuses.also what did it cost u to produce a litre of that milk on the back of that crap silage with the extra high protein meal that had to be put in ???.also did cow condition suffer and then as a consequence emptys repeats etc??.i ain't having a pop at anyone her either just trying to argue a point

Jersey that 22cent figure averaged across the whole year, or just the winter months???

mahoney_j wrote: »

also what did it cost u to produce a litre of that milk on the back of that crap silage with the extra high protein meal that had to be put in ???.also did cow condition suffer and then as a consequence emptys repeats etc??.i ain't having a pop at anyone her either just trying to argue a point

I don't want to know about last winter ha, all I know is I had a hell of alot of Nov/Dec calvers, the cows milked crap, lost flesh off their backs like anything, and I had a serious outbreak of mastitis on 10/15 of them ha. Biggest problem I think was our silage was very wet, water streaming out of every sheargrab, so the cows probably didn't have sufficient intakes. Only saving grace was that I was happy to see the cows push around to calf in Feb.

jaymla627 wrote: »

Only doing 14 litres here, its costing 1.20 a cow per day to milk them including 3 kgs meal, and all parlour running costs at current solids cows are producing 6.50 worth of milk our a profit of say a 5 euro a day give our take therez noting wrong with that in my books.

1.20 total per cow seems low for all running costs your own labour the cost of 14 or 15 kg of grass and 3 kg of meal at proably 28 cent a kg.labour cost is where a lot of lads fall down and don't really take it into account.

jersey101 wrote: »

just winter tim. Drops down to 12 for rest of the year

12 cent a litre to produce a litre don't think delaval could even do it for that.for all costs????

mahoney_j wrote: »

1.20 total per cow seems low for all running costs your own labour the cost of 14 or 15 kg of grass and 3 kg of meal at proably 28 cent a kg.labour cost is where a lot of lads fall down and don't really take it into account.

Labour isnt included, re the grass its there anyway plus dry cows dont live on fresh air either.
All in will proberly clear a grand a week on nov milk when the 5.5 cent bonus is added in plus the fact everything milking is in fantastic order condition wise proberly to good in fact so drying off now would leave us with some very fat cows come spring.

jaymla627 wrote: »

Only doing 14 litres here, its costing 1.20 a cow per day to milk them including 3 kgs meal, and all parlour running costs at current solids cows are producing 6.50 worth of milk our a profit of say a 5 euro a day give our take therez noting wrong with that in my books.

1.20 total per cow seems low for all running costs your own labour the cost of 14 or 15 kg of grass and 3 kg of meal at proably 28 cent a kg.labour cost is where a lot of lads fall down and don't really take it into account.

mahoney you're on the mobile there? Lotsa duplicate posts from ya ha! I think the boards.ie app is on the blink at the minute, you're better off going to boards.ie through your brower.

Jersey I'm sorry you must be out with them figures, probably afew things missing? I'd say go check them again, but meanwhile, don't bloodly let Glanbia, and especially don't let the supermarkets get wind of that 22c/l figure, the fu*kers will have the price of milk slashed to 21c overnight ha!

Timmaay wrote: »

mahoney you're on the mobile there? Lotsa duplicate posts from ya ha! I think the boards.ie app is on the blink at the minute, you're better off going to boards.ie through your brower.

Jersey I'm sorry you must be out with them figures, probably afew things missing? I'd say go check them again, but meanwhile, don't bloodly let Glanbia, and especially don't let the supermarkets get wind of that 22c/l figure, the fu*kers will have the price of milk slashed to 21c overnight ha!

Yep on the i phone tim and then the daughter was messing with it as i was getting her ready for bed,Must be something up with phone or something as i am doing a lot of that lately(duplicate posts).Back on the laptop now for round 2 !!!!
As regards everyone blowing about there production costs and how low they are can i please remind those of us that re dairy farmers that that info should be treated as highly confidential information.In no way should it be made known what farmers can produce milk for especially the very small % that can do it at rock bottom.Ye might not think it but that info is constantly been used against us.Speaking as someone that worked for a large american multinational pharmecutical complany they will go to surprising lenghts to get an edge on competitiors and suppliers from really unlikely sources.Tegasc really pee me off about this as they are tool loose with this info .Th info in a profit monitor should only be discussed beteween group faciliator and members and no further

jersey101 wrote: »

cost us 22c/l to produce, that included paying back all bills. Cow condition did suffer alot and winter calving slipped alot because if it but spring breeding went very well 7% empty compared to 23% last year

cAN U GIVE US A BREAK DOWN OF COSTS

40 cent is there but none of the co ops have the balls to set price at 40.Most farmers should be achieving a price into the mid 40s for nov milk.I even heard of a supplier in my coop who cleared 52 cent for october milk,Wonder what his november price is???.Milking a herd of pure jersey and x breeds.There is good csope in the coops for a thirteenth payement(top up on years supply)in december.Anyone care to set an average price for 2014 milk????i reckon 33 or 34 cent

Less protest from the farmers this time of year in my view ha, the high solids sort of lures us into a false sense of security!

In terms of next year, I'll stick my neck out and say higher than that, say 36c! From what I've read, things have not settled down in the US yet, cull cows are still making very strong money, plenty of empty feedlots. Alot of big dairyfarms went to the wall last price crash. If we can hold that 36c past the peak till August it will be nice. It depends also on how things go in NZ, they are liable to hold onto milk products, and dump them on the worldmarket come the springtime, towards the end of their season.