Metal Gear Solid V

Otacon · 04-11-2013 3:55pm #1

Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes will be releasing Spring 2014.

In a press release sent to VG247 today, Kojima said of the ties between both games, “The advanced capabilities of the FOX Engine have allowed me to tell the new story in a new way. There will be a significant difference in what Metal Gear Solid : The Phantom Pain brings to the series, so we want to ease players into the new open world environment and its potential. As such, Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes has been designed to introduce key elements, allowing them to fully benefit from all that the new game will offer.”

Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes will launch Spring 2014 on PS3 and Xbox 360 as a boxed release at £29.99, while digital versions will cost £19.99., while PS4 and Xbox One digital versions come in at £29.99.

According to the release, Ground Zeroes, “charts a rescue mission as users infiltrate a Cuban prison camp, and sets in motion a series of events that culminate in the stunning plotlines of Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain.”

wes · 04-11-2013 4:05pm

Is this just the prologue bit? The asking price is a bit steep for the prologue.

Retr0gamer · 04-11-2013 4:15pm

In a press release sent to VG247 today, Kojima said of the ties between both games, “The advanced capabilities of the FOX Engine have allowed me to tell the new story in a new way. There will be a significant difference in what Metal Gear Solid : The Phantom Pain brings to the series, so we want to ease players into the new open world environment and its potential. As such, Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes has been designed to introduce key elements, allowing them to fully benefit from all that the new game will offer.”

No man has said so much while saying so little. Moar details!

B.A._Baracus · 05-11-2013 6:30pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

No man has said so much while saying so little. Moar details!

... :pac: Too true.

€29.99 is a bit much for a prologue. But I guess it depends on how long it will be. Would be a joke if it's just an extended demo.

Guess Kojima is recreating the tanker/big shell element of MGS2. But looking back, the Tanker chapter wouldnt be worth 29.99!

Pushtrak · 06-11-2013 1:10am

I really want to know when Phantom Pain is out. I don't think I'll play Ground Zeroes when it first comes out. I'll want to play Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain a lot closer, if not ending Ground Zeroes and swapping to Phantom Pain immediately. You just know there'll be a cliff hanger, and I'm not going to enjoy the wait.

richymcdermott · 06-11-2013 11:27am

They could charge full price and i be too much of a fanboy not to purchase it. Btw I still believe david hayter is involved , he just have to

dazftw · 07-11-2013 12:46am

Dunno how legit it is..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBXyoPNdouM

edit: nvm found another one done by the other guy..

tok9 · 07-11-2013 2:39pm

I'd find it very difficult not to GZ but if it's included with The Phantom Pain I'd be expecting a discount.

Also:

David Gibson ‏@gibbogame 4h
Konami saying MGS5 release timing will depend on how Ground Zeroes goes first combined with next generation, then decide if 2014 or 2015

What does that mean? If it sells well we get it in 2014 and if it doesn't we get it in 2015?

Penn · 07-11-2013 3:17pm

tok9 wrote: »

What does that mean? If it sells well we get it in 2014 and if it doesn't we get it in 2015?

Likely they'll listen to people's suggestions and improve the game if people are complaining about certain things. I'd say he meant Feedback more so than Sales

Otacon · 07-11-2013 5:22pm

Penn wrote: »

Likely they'll listen to people's suggestions and improve the game if people are complaining about certain things. I'd say he meant Feedback more so than Sales

Sales can be interpreted as a form of feedback I suppose.

Varik · 09-11-2013 3:10pm

Very expensive for a glorified demo, but still cheaper than buying Zone of the Enders just for the demo.

They probably didn't have a game coming up that they could add it to to boost sales, that and they're bleeding money now.

Jay Pentatonic · 10-11-2013 12:29am

Off topic but, is it just my computer or did the metal gear forum get scrapped? Wast really that unpopular? :eek:

But I too think it's a bit much for just a demo, really thought GZ & PP were gonna be released at the same time

Wright · 10-11-2013 4:10am

Varik wrote: »

Very expensive for a glorified demo

Oh so Kojima told you how long this title would be did he. :pac:

Timmyctc · 10-11-2013 4:14am

richymcdermott wrote: »

They could charge full price and i be too much of a fanboy not to purchase it. Btw I still believe david hayter is involved , he just have to

I'm the same. The way he was acting was almost that he was putting on a show about not being included in this game. Ill tell you this. If he truly isn't involved in any way. He has definitely gone waayyyy down in my estimations.

What if there was a slight time skip and Snake met Big Boss and Hayter was Snake while Kiefer was BB *dies of a heart attack*

Pushtrak · 10-11-2013 4:27am

Timmyctc wrote: »

He has definitely gone waayyyy down in my estimations.

I wasn't following it that closely, but am aware he wasn't happy about the situation. Why the above though?

Timmyctc · 10-11-2013 4:39am

Pushtrak wrote: »

I wasn't following it that closely, but am aware he wasn't happy about the situation. Why the above though?

He frequented Twitter and interviews at Cons expressing his complete disappointment with not being involved. Came across as a bit of a tit and a child throwing his toys outta the pram at times. Alot of sniping and snide remarks too.

Ah well,

Can't fault @RealKiefer

Great actor, good man. The game will probably still be excellent.

Like New Coke!

(New Coke obviously being Coke's failed product that was a critical failure etc)

"It’s been fifteen years, nine games, and an enormous blast to undertake. If it were my choice, I would do this role forever. To hear anyone else’s voice coming from Snake’s battered throat, makes me a little ill, to be honest."

Can't find the Con interview but he's a little snide here not too much though tbf

He's always complimentary but then drops in a few snide remarks; here around 1.00-1.20

Just following him on twitter the past year or so he's thrown up quite a few RT's and sarcastic remarks directed at Hideo/MGSV. So its either part of a massive ruse (Which I hope and sorta expect) or its not and he's sorta a douche :P

EDIT: Actually his most recent Retweet on Twitter is this

@DavidBHayter
Fantasy: David Hayter
Reality: Keifer Sutherland
#RealityFail
Retweeted by David Hayter

So its still in his mind :pac:

Pushtrak · 10-11-2013 4:43am

Yeah, he'll be back. He'll be all apologetic about how he couldn't say anything as it'd give the game away.

Wright · 10-11-2013 4:59am

Guys, it was all a ruse, they want to keep it a secret that we're not playing as Big Boss after the GZ portion of the game, rather we'll be playing as Grey Fox. That's the real reason behind the change in cast; because Sutherland will be voicing Grey Fox. I assume that because now they plan to release GZ well ahead of MGS5, they plan to come out and say as much, because it will be fairly obvious that Big Boss is voiced by Hayter in GZ.

Penn · 10-11-2013 2:14pm

Jay1989 wrote: »

Off topic but, is it just my computer or did the metal gear forum get scrapped? Wast really that unpopular? :eek:

But I too think it's a bit much for just a demo, really thought GZ & PP were gonna be released at the same time

Yeah, MGS forum was closed a few weeks ago. There was a bit of restructuring going on throughout the Games Category (forums being closed, merged, relocated etc) and it was decided that a few forums weren't really necessary any more and it'd be better if discussion took place on this main Games forum. MGS wasn't the only one closed, but given the only minor bump in posting when MGR:R was released, we thought it was best to just close the forum.

snausages · 10-11-2013 2:28pm

I'll lol if Ground Zeroes ends up being great and Phantom Pain ends up crap.

For some reason I'm not too hyped. Just doesn't seem like we need an MGSV.

Pushtrak · 10-11-2013 2:34pm

Have you seen any trailers? I think we definitely need MGS V on the basis of seeing the E3 one. I don't need to see anything new now, it's just waiting.

snausages · 10-11-2013 2:35pm

Pushtrak wrote: »

Have you seen any trailers? I think we definitely need MGS V on the basis of seeing the E3 one. I don't need to see anything new now, it's just waiting.

I'm thinking more storywise. It's just basically explaining a bunch of convoluted backstory from act 3 of MGS4. MGS always looks amazing in previews

Timmyctc · 10-11-2013 3:04pm

snausages wrote: »

I'm thinking more storywise. It's just basically explaining a bunch of convoluted backstory from act 3 of MGS4. MGS always looks amazing in previews

I think they can still keep making them until the two timelines meet up properly again.

Some of the game mechanic changes sound awful however. Regen health for a start

And they are using a focus group for this game (first game in the series to use one afaik) An awful idea imo.

richymcdermott · 13-11-2013 7:01pm

Kojima is tweeting their be big news tomorrow for ps4

johnny_ultimate · 13-11-2013 7:06pm

Timmyctc wrote: »

Some of the game mechanic changes sound awful however. Regen health for a start And they are using a focus group for this game (first game in the series to use one afaik) An awful idea imo.

You know, I'm typically against focus groups and any sort of interference with a creator's visions. But if anyone could benefit from a focus group saying 'this doesn't work', it's Hideo Kojima whose interesting vision is often perilously obscured by his awful one.

Otacon · 13-11-2013 7:33pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

You know, I'm typically against focus groups and any sort of interference with a creator's visions. But if anyone could benefit from a focus group saying 'this doesn't work', it's Hideo Kojima whose interesting vision is often perilously obscured by his awful one.

I think he needs a strong-willed editor more than focus groups. I can't think of anything positive a focus group has achieved, in any medium.

Timmyctc · 13-11-2013 9:53pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

You know, I'm typically against focus groups and any sort of interference with a creator's visions. But if anyone could benefit from a focus group saying 'this doesn't work', it's Hideo Kojima whose interesting vision is often perilously obscured by his awful one.

Have to agree with Otacon below. I have a bad feeling that a focus group will end up being a bunch of Kojima yes men than people who can challenge him. Kojima needs someone to really challenge him and make edits to get the best out of the game imo.

Otacon wrote: »

I think he needs a strong-willed editor more than focus groups. I can't think of anything positive a focus group has achieved, in any medium.

I can guarantee this game will have my number one pet peeve in games. I HATE when prequel games have superior technology to games made earlier but set in the future. Like the Feckin MGS in Peace Walker is more advanced than Rex, created about 30 years in the future -_-. Batman Arkham Asylum you find a prototype Grappling hook thing. In Arkham Origins you start with the actual Grappling hook -_-. I guarantee Kojima will have Snake with some array of futuristic Tech we could only have dreamt of back in Shadow Moses or even MGS4

SeantheMan · 18-09-2014 8:01am

So this new trailer is up for it.

Her outfit isn't very tactical at all...but I'm not complaining :P
Adding more fuel to the fire about the recent debate with how women are being portrayed in games

Otacon · 18-09-2014 8:43am

Gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2cYlwPMMRs

tok9 · 18-09-2014 9:12am

I take it, we still don't have a release date...

How long ago did we see the Ground Zeroes trailer?

Otacon · 18-09-2014 9:17am

tok9 wrote: »

I take it, we still don't have a release date...

How long ago did we see the Ground Zeroes trailer?

They have confirmed TPP is a 2015 game.

tok9 · 18-09-2014 9:26am

That's something anyway. Please let the rumoured March date be true

Timmyctc · 18-09-2014 11:33am

I'm really not as excited for this one as I was for any other Metal Gear (barring that Raiden one with the hack n slash)
I think there's gonna be wayy too much retconning and the like that'll raise more questions than it answers. I hope I'm wrong though.

tok9 · 18-09-2014 1:08pm

I'm the opposite Timmy. While I agree there will definitely be some retconning (pretty sure he even confirmed it) the game itself looks incredible.

I'm just after finishing watching the new gameplay. My god.. the variety in it is amazing and it looks gorgeous.

I just hope there is a more strict limit to the tools that are used but still.. I'm extremely excited for this.

Timmyctc · 18-09-2014 1:19pm

tok9 wrote: »

I'm the opposite Timmy. While I agree there will definitely be some retconning (pretty sure he even confirmed it) the game itself looks incredible.

I'm just after finishing watching the new gameplay. My god.. the variety in it is amazing and it looks gorgeous.

I just hope there is a more strict limit to the tools that are used but still.. I'm extremely excited for this.

Ah but like. The gameplay in 4 was a step up from that which came before. It looked gorgeous at the time. But the story was wayyy too convoluted. There exists, in MGS4 a very good storyline. But a whole lot of ****e too. IF that game was properly edited it woulda been an all time great imo.

That and the americanisation are the two things I dislike most about Kojima. Its in such a contrast to MGS1 which for me, is still the best, followed closely by 3.

tok9 · 18-09-2014 1:41pm

I don't entirely agree.

At the time I remember loving MGS4 initially but over the years I just think about everything it got so wrong. Those 1st 2 to 3 acts were really good and then it just went downhill mostly.

If I played it I'd probably still enjoy it but in terms of MGS games in both gameplay and story it went a way back.

MGS3 is the pinnacle of the series for me and MGS4 comes nowhere near it.

After playing GZ I'm very confident we're back to an actual stealth game. I had some minor issues with it but it was a load of fun. And everything I see of MGS5 just looks amazing to me.

I just can't see how Kojima will bottleneck us this time when the world appears to be so open.

Timmyctc · 18-09-2014 2:07pm

tok9 wrote: »

I don't entirely agree.

At the time I remember loving MGS4 initially but over the years I just think about everything it got so wrong. Those 1st 2 to 3 acts were really good and then it just went downhill mostly.

If I played it I'd probably still enjoy it but in terms of MGS games in both gameplay and story it went a way back.

MGS3 is the pinnacle of the series for me and MGS4 comes nowhere near it.

After playing GZ I'm very confident we're back to an actual stealth game. I had some minor issues with it but it was a load of fun. And everything I see of MGS5 just looks amazing to me.

I just can't see how Kojima will bottleneck us this time when the world appears to be so open.

Tbh this coulda been said of 4 pre release too :P. Im just approaching it with caution. I didn't like the extreme retconning and broken fulton system in Peace Walker so seeing as this and GZ is a direct follow up i have a sour taste in my mouth

tok9 · 18-09-2014 3:08pm

I know.. but I'm much more hopeful this time round as it seem to be more in line with peace walker except on a far bigger scale.

I've no issue with a bit of variety in terms of chases and all out action... it's just that the last 2 acts of MGS4 had practically no stealth at all.

B.A._Baracus · 18-09-2014 3:39pm

Sucks we didn't get a more accurate release date. If I recall correctly Ground Zeros release date was revealed only 3 months prior (December 2013) So there is still hope that the game might come out March 2015.

B.A._Baracus · 18-09-2014 3:53pm

The more I watch footage of this, the more it reminds me of MGS3. Which is a very good thing.

Wonder if you can hunt animals for food?
also, shame there is no camo meter

iggyigauna89 · 18-09-2014 4:03pm

Really excited for this. Got GZ recently on offer and I really enjoyed the gameplay! Do ye guys think the PC version will be released along side the other versions?

B.A._Baracus · 18-09-2014 4:23pm

iggyigauna89 wrote: »

Really excited for this. Got GZ recently on offer and I really enjoyed the gameplay! Do ye guys think the PC version will be released along side the other versions?

It's hard to say at this point. Pc version may get released after console versions. As is what generally happens to games that are developed with the console market first. But Konami went the extra mile to announce it was coming to Steam before even setting a release date.

So by already revealing the steam version, it will have to come out same day or a few days in between.

Adamantium · 18-09-2014 4:38pm

SeantheMan wrote: »

So this new trailer is up for it.

Her outfit isn't very tactical at all...but I'm not complaining :P
Adding more fuel to the fire about the recent debate with how women are being portrayed in games

Don't even...start. We'll have people complaining about the bro-mance of FFXV soon, as if somehow there been nobody female in the main party was a slight against all womankind in a fantasy world. oh god....What am I doing? Shut up (slaps head)

B.A._Baracus · 18-09-2014 4:41pm

Info from the gameplay video:

Kojima can finally do the things he wanted to, now that the hardware has evolved
Snake has lost weight, they say
You can choose your own routes during the missions
Quiet can assist you during gameplay with the buddy system
You can choose where the helicopter sets you down
Riding your horse is hard in the jungle environment
Snake is ‘naked’, Miller tells him they are making a new suit at Mother Base
The new suit is delivered to Snake
You can climb walls with cracks
Snake is wearing a different arm prothesis in the demo
You’ll be able to use different protheses with different functions
There will be a lot of different protheses according to Kojima
You can set up a talking decoy. He says: ‘Kept you waiting, huh?’
Snake calls in Quiet and orders her to scout up ahead
Quiet can also provide cover fire
When she is in position, she hums
She marks enemies during reconnaissance
If you speed up the time too much, the POW target dies
By hovering the reticle, you can select Quiet’s target
Snake throws a grenade and orders Quiet to shoot it
Quiet has a weakness that will tie into the story
Quiet’s abilities depend on the degree of her bond with Snake
In the demo, the attacks commands were: shoot, target and wait for my signal, shoot this, and provide/cease cover fire
However, a lot has to happen for all these options to be available (bond degree)
If the bond isn’t high enough, Quiet won’t come with you
When Snake uses the ‘pin radar’, all the icons represent animals, but it reacts to people as well
You can analyze soldiers to see their statistics, like in Peace Walker
Another interrogation option is asking: ‘Where are your friends?’
Snake’s can stun enemies with his arm, it packs 1.2 million volts
According to Kojima, you may never meet Quiet. It depends on how you play through the game.

Penn · 18-09-2014 5:24pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Info from the gameplay video:

Quiet’s abilities depend on the degree of her bond with Snake

In the demo, the attacks commands were: shoot, target and wait for my signal, shoot this, and provide/cease cover fire

However, a lot has to happen for all these options to be available (bond degree)

If the bond isn’t high enough, Quiet won’t come with you

According to Kojima, you may never meet Quiet. It depends on how you play through the game.

That's interesting. Shows there'll be some degree of interactivity with NPCs like Quiet (and possibly Ocelot & Miller) which can have a real effect on the game/story.

Falthyron · 18-09-2014 5:48pm

Boob physics confirmed.

tok9 · 18-09-2014 6:31pm

I actually hope you can give her some uniform... otherwise I'll just be semi embarrassed playing this game if someone else comes in to see Quiet.

Timmyctc · 18-09-2014 6:49pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

The more I watch footage of this, the more it reminds me of MGS3. Which is a very good thing.

Wonder if you can hunt animals for food?
also, shame there is no camo meter

I loved that in three. If they had a similar system that was easier to cycle through camos I;d love it. Felt the Octocamo was a bit of a cop out given that you just lay on anything and became near enough invisible.

AlmightyCushion · 18-09-2014 7:01pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It's hard to say at this point. Pc version may get released after console versions. As is what generally happens to games that are developed with the console market first. But Konami went the extra mile to announce it was coming to Steam before even setting a release date.

So by already revealing the steam version, it will have to come out same day or a few days in between.

Never realised that this was confirmed for the PC. I thought they were still just considering it. Absolutely delighted with that. Now, hopefully Square Enix bring their games to the PC and I can avoid dropping a few hundred on a console.

B.A._Baracus · 18-09-2014 7:05pm

Yeah, the Octocamo was a weird one alright.
It was really cool that you could use nearly every texture in the game. It was something brand new that no other game did. But it just wasnt as fun as the camo in MGS3.

MitchKoobski · 20-09-2014 1:29pm

Wolf companion. I'm sold. It's gonna be a dogmeat situation all over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbVcqIoqAcA

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