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The Thylacine Thread
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18-04-2012 11:36pm#1http://news.discovery.com/animals/tasmanian-tiger-devil-120418.html
Same could happen to the Tasmanian Devil
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Were Australian thylacines killed by dingoes?
This is a study about the comparative size of dingoes and mainland thylacines (it seems that dingoes were larger on average than female mainland thylacines but smaller than Tasmanian thylacines), and whether direct predation by dingoes may have caused or accelerated the extinction of the marsupial in Australia.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0034877
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Emperor penguins, and those weird fish that live in the extreme depths of the ocean. Anything else is fair game unfortunately..
I think those animals even are affected by human activity too
The blobfish is one of those weird deep-water fish, and it seems that its endangered due to trawling. Ironically, it is endemic to Australia and Tasmania...
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I think those animals even are affected by human activity too The blobfish is one of those weird deep-water fish, and it seems that its endangered due to trawling. Ironically, it is endemic to Australia and Tasmania...
Dont really have anything to contribute to the thread but dont think many people would mind if the blobfish died out0 -
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Capt'n Midnight wrote: »did the thylacines hunt in packs or alone ?a pack of dogs would make short work of most similar sized predators
As far as I know, they were loners, although this may actually have been due to their low numbers- some hunters said that thylacines would sometimes work cooperatively to drive prey into an ambush, and captive thylacines were extremely docile and even tolerated children well, much like dogs, which has led some to believe that they may have lived in family groups or wolf-like packs (that is, a breeding pair aided by non-breeding relatives). This may have been the case in mainland Australia or even in Tasmania before the thylacines were decimated- eventually they were so rare that they had more trouble to find a mate.
But even as loners it seems they did defend themselves succesfully against dogs- there are recorded cases of them killing attacking dogs. It was guns, poison and snares that finished them eventually.Capt'n Midnight wrote: »and what was that yoke that ate fish longer than itself , so much that they'd be found on the surface bloated by the meal that decomposed faster than it could be digested.
That would be the Black Swallower:
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Capt'n Midnight wrote: »yeah that's the greedy little critter
judging by the angle thylacines could open their mouths they might have a similar MO. to sabre toothed cats ?
Hardly... the reason why sabertooths could open their jaws that much is because of the extreme length of the fangs which couldn´t be used properly without a very wide gape. In the case of the thylacine, it has been said once and again that it killed by "crushing the skull". The teeth were blunt and more apt for crushing than slashing- and there's a rather gory report of a thylacine killing a dog like that:
""A bull terrier once set upon a Wolf and bailed it up in a niche in some rocks. There the Wolf stood with its back to the wall, turning its head from side to side, checking the terrier as it tried to butt in from alternate and opposite directions. Finally the dog came in close and the Wolf gave one sharp, fox-like bite, tearing a piece of the dog’s skull clean off, and it fell with the brain protruding, dead."
So I suposse the wide gape would probably help them "grab" the entire skull of even their largest prey for a crushing bite.
Then again, other marsupials such as opossums and the Tasmanian devil also can open their jaws very wide...
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Tasmania is a big place with a lot of wild regions, rarely visited by people, so it's possible. I don't doubt a few survived the official last one in the zoo, but for how long and whether they're still around is up in the air.
That all said, I'd not just look in Tasmania. IIRC they existed in mainland Australia in the past, up until Europeans showed up, though small in number, so there may be a hidden population there. Another place they may still survive is in New Guinea.
Here's an interesting clip by a Spanish wildlife film crew back in the 90's and one ye've maybe not seen before. Shot in Australia. They thought "dingo" at first, but it looks odd for a dingo. Sadly no shots of it's back, but the head looks very strange for a dog.
Go to around 45 seconds for the clip.
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I watched the video like this :eek:
But then I thought there was something just way too canid about the creature. I don´t think it's a thylacine at all.
Here's a still from the video you linked to, with the animal looking at the camera, along with a still from an actual thylacine from another video:
Even considering that the animal in the Spanish video is apparently mangy, I think the shape of the head is different, and it has smaller eyes and larger ears proportionally than the thylacine's. It looks too canid to me... maybe a fox? (I think they're an important pest in Tasmania as well as in Australia?)0 -
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Yet another search for living thylacines is about to start:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/scientists-kick-off-search-for-tassie-tiger-in-far-north-queensland-20170604-gwk42w.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwOMoC40q6k
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