vu+ duo

kierank01 wrote: »

hey, thanks for the reply.

I was able to find a satellites.xml file generator on the web, and pulled down a file, replaced the file /etc/tuxbox/satellites.xml with that, and rebooted.

did not resolve the issue

the actual error that I am getting is 'service unavailable! check tuner configuration!'

So, unless you have a backup of your settings file, you will need to retune.

The satellite xml reload was because in your original description the original file sounds corrupted - there were no satellites to select. Just reloading the settings file wouldn't have worked.

It happens to me every now and again.

radiowaves wrote: »

So, unless you have a backup of your settings file, you will need to retune.

The satellite xml reload was because in your original description the original file sounds corrupted - there were no satellites to select. Just reloading the settings file wouldn't have worked.

It happens to me every now and again.

I think you may not be getting what I am trying to say...

from time to time channels change, and you have to rescan certain transponders, this is normal, and the error that you would get at that point would be 'tune failed', but is not what is happening here...

I have attempted a manual scan on a transponder, just like I did last week, and i am getting:

nothing to scan!
Please setup your tuner settings before you start a service scan.

attached is a screenshot of both my sat tuners.
The last time I checked, where it says automatic, you would be able to choose from a wide range of satellites, now it is auto, or 'not configured'

kierank01 wrote: »

I think you may not be getting what I am trying to say...

from time to time channels change, and you have to rescan certain transponders, this is normal, and the error that you would get at that point would be 'tune failed', but is not what is happening here...

I have attempted a manual scan on a transponder, just like I did last week, and i am getting:

nothing to scan!
Please setup your tuner settings before you start a service scan.

attached is a screenshot of both my sat tuners.
The last time I checked, where it says automatic, you would be able to choose from a wide range of satellites, now it is auto, or 'not configured'

I know exactly what you're trying to say - it's happened to me too as I said.

Delete the sats.xml file.

Reboot.

Upload new one.

Reboot.

Upload a backup settings file or retune your sats.

kierank01 wrote: »

Was hoping that this was going to be the silver bullet, but alas no.

below is the telnet CLI, there was no satellite.xml in the enigma2 folder.
copied the new file to both locations, and rebooted, but no joy.

vuduo login: root
root@vuduo:~# cd /
root@vuduo:/# ls
autofs  boot    etc     home    media   proc    share   tmp     var
bin     dev     hdd     lib     mnt     sbin    sys     usr
root@vuduo:/# cd etc
root@vuduo:/etc# cd enigma2/
root@vuduo:/etc/enigma2# ls
autotimer.xml                 userbouquet.dbe00.tv
blacklist                     userbouquet.dbe01.tv
bouquets.radio                userbouquet.dbe02.tv
bouquets.tv                   userbouquet.dbe03.tv
cacert.pem                    userbouquet.dbe04.tv
cert.pem                      userbouquet.dbe05.tv
crossepg                      userbouquet.dbe06.tv
epg.dat                       userbouquet.dbe07.tv
key.pem                       userbouquet.dbe08.tv
lamedb                        userbouquet.dbe0d.tv
playlist.e2pls                userbouquet.dbe0e.tv
profile                       userbouquet.dbe14.tv
satellites.xml                userbouquet.dbe1a.tv
server.pem                    userbouquet.dbe20.tv
settings                      userbouquet.extra__tv_.tv
timers.xml                    userbouquet.favourites.radio
userbouquet.94b4c.radio       userbouquet.favourites.tv
userbouquet.LastScanned.tv    whitelist
root@vuduo:/etc/enigma2# cd ../tuxbox/
root@vuduo:/etc/tuxbox# ls
cables.xml         satellites0ld.xml  terrestrial.xml
config             scce               timezone.xml
root@vuduo:/etc/tuxbox# cp ../enigma2/satellites.xml satellites.xml
root@vuduo:/etc/tuxbox# ls
cables.xml         satellites.xml     scce               timezone.xml
config             satellites0ld.xml  terrestrial.xml
root@vuduo:/etc/tuxbox# reboot

Glad you got yours sorted...

Simply uploading the new satellites.xml file is not enough. You uploaded a new one to replace the corrupted one. The satellites should now appear in your tuner configuration menu but (again, unless you have a back-up of your settings file) you will need to reconfigure the satellites.

I said retune earlier - I should've said reconfigure. My bad.

banie01 wrote: »

+1 A reboot isn't enough.
You need to redo your tuner config and then rescan after you have loaded the new sats.xml and rebooted the box.

Right, in my own case.
I am in a quandry and have nothing else to logically blame but VIX
My box was humming along after my repair job and then I start getting spinning VIX logos for 20minutes plus again!
So to I start testing out other images to see if the issue persists.
Blackhole, Vti, OpenATV, OpenPLi 3 and OpenPLi4 all run perfectly well, no hanging.
So I tried some of my older ViX images all eventually hung
Fresh install of the latest Vic(.766) with no backup restored, same result.
And whats even stranger is that my favourite Plug-in Project Valerie will not run on VIX anymore for me when it was fine previously?
Even the image backup with PVMC installed that worked perfectly well previously crashes now(its .679 build)
So I tried ViX's bundled mediabrowser from their feeds and that crashed my box too!
It really is very strange!
But as it stands Vix is off my Vu Duo for the foreseeable now to just decide which image to replace it.

Found all sorts of issues with Vix (although was new to Enigma 2 at the time).

Having went through most other images I settled on Blackhole. It's not without issues but is the best for my box.

banie01 wrote: »

When I 1st got into this hobby I was a huge fan of OpenPLi and thats what I'm back to at the moment but I have downloaded BH2.06 and am going to give that a whirl again later.

Vix is handy for those staring out as it comes fairly much good to go with no user input so its very wife and kid friendly
But tbh I'd rather have something like BH or Pli that I can customize.

The PVMC thing has me really scratching my head though, as even I cannot fathom what is causing it to crash out on even my backup image where it previously worked perfectly?

I can't help you with your problem mate - wish I could

I agree Vix was easy but I like playing with my box as much as watching it!

Is OpenPLI the one that doesn't allow numeric or keyboard input via the remote control on VU+? I liked it apart from that - although there is one plugin which only Blackhole has, others haven't and the PLI team insist there's no need for. I might've stuck with their image other than that (both the lack of the plugin and the "we know best" attitude).

There are some issues with BH2.06. After scanning a satellite it green screens but everything is ok on reboot. You probably - like me - just use your own channellist.

banie01 wrote: »

+1 A reboot isn't enough.
You need to redo your tuner config and then rescan after you have loaded the new sats.xml and rebooted the box.

Sorry, meant to say that when I rebooted, I attempted to reconfigure the tuners, and this is what has not worked.

It is still the same auto or not configured

at this stage after having done a factory reset, and a restore from some old settings, and since I am not on the latest image, I am just going to reflash, and see how that goes...

fbradyirl wrote: »

I was using VIX at the start, then moved to Black Hole for about 10 months. I've gone back to Vix and have to say it is certainly the slickest out there.

Important not to load any of the images with too many plugins. I usually just put onDemand, and one or two plugins. Too many will slow things down.

Agreed!
I generally just run a cam, Project Valerie and Livefootball.
Keep the image pared back to just the essentials.
Allowing the image to be pared to a minimum is one of the things I like most about Vti/Pli/Blackhole....
Those images allow you to strip out anything un-needed at the install stage(or anytime after) to allow even better performance and resource management while in the case of Vti and BH in particular offering much better immediate USB tuner support.
Whereas(and I'm not knocking this in any shape or form)VIX comes good to go and very user friendly from the get-go.
It is a very user friendly and easy to get grips with image especially with regards button mappings and so on, in VIX they are very intuitive whereas most other images need a little time with multiquick button or similar.

fbradyirl wrote: »

Finally, the most unbelievably class skin called MyMetrix is on Vix, and it is nicer than any skin I've ever seen (and nicer than Sky or UPC).
http://mymetrix.de/

Mymetrix is a lovely skin/UI tweak but it is available across all images.
I am currently using it myself with OpenPli 3.0, I wouldn't tie myself to a particular image based on a particular skin especially when it is available across the board.

As for my own issues with VIX spinners and hanging....
I've solved them by ditching VIX.
Currently the Vu is running OpenPli and PVMC and I have not had 1 issue with spinners/unresponsiveness.
What I find most strange about my issue with VIX though, is that even my ''known good'' backup images.
Images that I know are/were perfect.
No software problems, ran perfectly.
They all have the same issue on reinstallation!
A known good backup, runs like mud when reinstalled?
So then I try clean flashs with no restore and the issue still persisted.
It was those issues that led me to believe I had a possible hardware issue and indeed led me to get out my soldering Iron and swap out capacitors.
But on non VIX images the problem doesn't reoccur(while even after the hardware changes it still persists on VIX) means to my mind at least that it is not a hardware problem at all.
But TBH, now that I have a good configuration again, I'm not going to spend anymore time worrying about it.....
And sure we all know if I flag the issue on WOS it will end up actually being my fault anyway!

kierank01 wrote: »

You can't be serious :P

Not at all Tis probably me just being slightly cynical

Greenpiece wrote: »

I am using latest Blackhole image 2.0.6 rev C and tried to install MyMetrix but get the message
"Sorry this skin is not compatible with the current Black Hole image version"

I know BH don't support MyMetrix as they think it is too heavy on resources and slow down image, but I was wondering..is there any way around this?

Personally I'd agree with BH dev's as while it is a ''skin'' of sorts it is really a complete new overlay/UI that does tend to hog resources.
I was using it until yesterday on OpenPli(And I have used it on various other images over the last few years) but I reverted to a normal skin as a lot of the integrated features were never going to be used by me.
For example the MyMetrix skin integrates EMC and merlinmusicplayer directly into the skin, which is brilliant if you use those!
But I'm a big PVMC fan so the EMC integration was no use to me.
It also contains a number of widgets that if not managed well, will hog your system resources.
That said, It is a lovely looking interface with great customization tweaks and I honestly have never had a resource issue whilst using it(That said I use a 96mb swapfile and a low footprint setup)

As for how to get MyMetrix running on BH2.0.6c maybe something here can help?
Sorry I can't be more help.

Black Hole with MX red skin

OpenVIX - MyMetrixHD (called MyMatrix in Skins)

My sat config issue is back again :mad:

posted a thread on WOS, we will see if anything comes out of that...

byte wrote: »

Just did that, and have b0rked my receiver now, it won't boot.

How does one restore backups?

Assuming you have a backup image made via the image manager, you need to access the drive via ftp to copy the backup image back across to a USB drive and then its just a matter of installing via front panel USB.
The drive should hopefully still be available via FTP even during a bootloop.

And if it that doesn't work or you cant access the drive via FTP,but you do have a settings backup on the box, just download the latest image, flash via usb and the box will detect if you have a settings backup available and ask if you wish to restore it.

My instructions are for Vu Duo only. Sorry should have mentioned that. If you delete the skin via FTP from /usr/share/enigma2/ it should revert to the default skin.

byte wrote: »

Ah, FTP wasn't working either.

In the end I just had to reflash the box with OpenVIX, new Catseye file (<3 Catseye files) and reinstall softcam. I'll configure the motored dish later.

Of course, I had settings backups.. but none in the last year! Yeah, I should know better! I really should make a backup...

I know the pain of not having a back up all too well!
The good thing is even after a full clean reflash,
and assuming that you have previously made a back image via the image manager it will still be available on your Hard Drive after reflashing.
In the case of ''broken'' FTP access my usual fix is reflash with a new image, then access the hard drive via FTP copy across my good back up, then flash again with that.

banie01 wrote: »

I had an absolute nightmare with spinning VIX but now it's down to occasional spinners during media playback.
The capacitor issue has anecdotally caused slowdowns and slugishness prior to developing into the red light of death fail.
I replaced the c807 and the adjacent caps, that said none of the caps I removed had any obvious bulging or signs of drying out but....
Theres always a but, the box is running better, quicker to boot(at one stage I waited 11mins to boot) and no constant spinners.
Whether that is down to the hardware being repaired or differing images is open to guess really but the improvement is there.

Would the new VU2 Duo or whatever its called, be a good upgrade at this stage? Would it have sufficiently better hardware to do away with sluggishness, spinning vix etc ?

fbradyirl wrote: »

I wouldn't agree that it is a resource hog. Even on my Vu Duo which has half a gig of RAM, Vix runs super smooth for me, even with the MyMetrix addon. I pretty much never see the spinner and I have been running it for over a month now. If you think something is hogging the system, maybe have a look at another installed addon.

1st off where did you get a Duo with a half gig of Ram?
If you have a half gig of Ram on your Duo it would go a long way towards explaining how your running so smooth.
They have 384mb of Ram and when in full flow they generally have @250mb of that reserved for system.
I have looked at it via ''top'' and Mymetrix and its associated processes do utilise more ram and runs extra processes not called for by a normal skin due to its widget based UI.
Should not be an issue on a pared down install but can be on anything else and has been recognised as such by many dev's.
As i said, log the resources called when running mymetrix vs when not particularly when the GUI is active/onscreen

As I said earlier it does generate a lovely skin, but if someone is running anything more than a very pared down image it does hog resources particularly free RAM and it does make a lot of CPU calls when active.
Again this is not an issue if you have a debloated/pared down image but if you are running a few plugins, some network services and a cam it can cause issues.

dnme wrote: »

Would the new VU2 Duo or whatever its called, be a good upgrade at this stage? Would it have sufficiently better hardware to do away with sluggishness, spinning vix etc ?

@DNME
given that the Duo 2 has @8times the processor power, @8 times the flash memory and @times the RAM.
The hardware should run pretty much any image thrown at it and performance should be down to the quality of the code rather than a hardware issue.

As a quick example current Duo VIX image with a cam,basic network settings and 1/2 other plugins installed runs to @92mb.
This means that the image alone is taking over 75% of your available Flash memory.
An
To contrast I can run an OpenPLI image from a 68mb image with same basic settings and plugins leaving a lot more flash free to cope with running the system and coping with the known memory leak issues.
A USB stick swapfile with fast R/W speeds can an will help offload some of the RAM issue and make a big difference to the overall performance.
A slow stick for the swapfile will exacerbate any problems though IME.

Running any plugin on a Duo needs to take the actual Flash footprint into account, VIX when it is running well is a great image but there can be no doubt it is becoming bloated.
And on a box with only 128mb of flash and 384mb of RAM bloat and unnecessary process's have to be avoided.
Yes the Duo is a fantastic box, I love mine but it is old and low spec compared to the modern trend of Dual core, and lots of Flash and ram becoming more available.

fbradyirl wrote: »

You're right about the RAM, for some reason I had it in my head that the Duo had half a gig.

I run it pretty paired down with just a cam and DDNS updater in the background, and a scheduled XMLTV import each day. So maybe that's why it runs so well for me. I don't run any dnla servers or any media sharing services like others might. Each to their own I guess, but I do recommend it to friends who configure their box correctly and stripped down as you say.

That's a fairly similar setup to my own.
Clean and minimal
I have DDNS setup on my router though so I just assign a static ip to my Duo and forward the webif port rather than use the built in DNS service.
Only plugins I use currently are a cam and PVMC.
The DNLA/Media services can hog a lot of resources when they are running and so I avoid them, particularly added network mounts.
For sharing the media on the duo I just run the built in Samba service and then I can view the drive across my network without worrying about DLNA or other services, copy and share to my hearts content.

fbradyirl wrote: »

Fo DDNS, I'm using the free noip.com updater. I'm guessing you're using the paid DynDNS service if it's built into the router?

I don't even have samba turned on. I just use plain old sftp to copy stuff from the box.

I use Samba as i have a few devices I share to around the house, If i am on the laptop though its generally FTP I use.
Nope, I use the free service too, with DynDNS I have to log into the account once a month to keep it active.
I have a NoIP account too, I must get around to using it more.

One of the few good things I can say about UPC router(Apart from speed of course) I have is that it has a built in DDNS option unfortunately it seems to be locked down to DynDNS.

fbradyirl wrote: »

Yeah even the high end enterprise routers will only support DynDNS. I've yet to find one that supports noip.com :cool:

You must have got in early with DynDNS. It looks like they have done away with free accounts for new signups.

Yeah I have the Dyndns account for years, the old free accounts were grandfathered in but the terms changed to having to login once a month to keep the account active.
Not a big change and worth the inconvenience to keep the free account too.

Having noIP supported/easily added to routers would be a boon alright!

And can you add a host etc then? Cool!