Child removed from Roma gypsies-This time in DUBLIN *Mod Warning Post #1*

dj jarvis wrote: »

the cops were acting on info provided , provided by the person reporting , by the medical professionals , and the staff at the hospital , should they have just ignored all this , along with the family at the time could not stand over their claims ??

all this points toward intervention - they done the right thing at the time with the info provided. they returned the child after all the checks proved the family s story , basic police procedure world wide.

Clearly you are not a parent.

Did I hear that correctly?

Think they have just said on the news that the child is theirs!

petrolcan wrote: »

Personally I think the Garda were too scared to do nothing.

that could have something to so with it - but as has been said , better to be wrong a hundred times , than to let one true case of kidnapping go

these garda were correct at that point in time

when in doubt and all that

5littleangels wrote: »

Clearly you are not a parent.

clearly i have 2 , your point is what ?

I don't think the media can be proud of themselves in this case, the Sunday World journalist (as I understand it) reported the case and it quickly became sensationalist......lessons to be learned all around but I doubt it.

Unfortunately it sells newspapers and social media goes into overdrive on little confirmed information.

Bad situation all around for everybody involved especially the little child involved. She must have been very confused and scared with all that went on in the last couple of days.

tayto lover wrote: »

To those of you who think this child was taken because her family are Roma a quick google shows the extent of Care Orders in one year, 2011.

http://www.thejournal.ie/almost-2300-children-taken-into-care-during-2011-524060-Jul2012/

Care orders are a totally different procedure to what happened in this case. Care orders need a HSE application in court and a hefty dossier of evidence. None of that happened in this case.

tayto lover wrote: »

Had the Gardai been alerted in time there might be two children alive today instead of being found dead in the boot of a car in the West.
There are loads of children abducted annually in Ireland.

In this case they are being abducted by the state!

dj jarvis wrote: »

clearly i have 2 , your point is what ?

So if your child was taken away under these circumstances you would think that it was ok? My daughter would be beyond terrified, as a mother I would be devastated. My child being taken away from me is the absolute worst thing I can imagine, being cared for by strangers. A child of this age has no idea that what is happening is "in their best interest". She is not going to just forget that this happened to her this is a hugely traumatic event that could haunt her for the rest of her life. I never ever write on these boards under things like this however I just feel horrified that anyone can think this is an acceptable thing to do. I have worked with children taken into care in Ireland it is not a bed of roses being in the care of the state.

5littleangels wrote: »

So if your child was taken away under these circumstances you would think that it was ok? My daughter would be beyond terrified, as a mother I would be devastated. My child being taken away from me is the absolute worst thing I can imagine, being cared for by strangers. A child of this age has no idea that what is happening is "in their best interest". She is not going to just forget that this happened to her this is a hugely traumatic event that could haunt her for the rest of her life. I never ever write on these boards under things like this however I just feel horrified that anyone can think this is an acceptable thing to do. I have worked with children taken into care in Ireland it is not a bed of roses being in the care of the state.

so true, and that's the really sad part of the whole sorry mess

Padraig Mor wrote: »

It's already been posted that the only option the Gardaí have under legislation is to remove the child to emergency care. They have no choice.

Only if the child is in serious and immediate danger. Who knew that having different color hair and eyes to your family was such a major danger?

5littleangels wrote: »

So if your child was taken away under these circumstances you would think that it was ok? My daughter would be beyond terrified, as a mother I would be devastated. My child being taken away from me is the absolute worst thing I can imagine, being cared for by strangers. A child of this age has no idea that what is happening is "in their best interest". She is not going to just forget that this happened to her this is a hugely traumatic event that could haunt her for the rest of her life. I never ever write on these boards under things like this however I just feel horrified that anyone can think this is an acceptable thing to do. I have worked with children taken into care in Ireland it is not a bed of roses being in the care of the state.

Give me a break.

Roma gypsies in Greece have been caught red handed with blonde haired blue eyed child that isn't theirs.

The Gardaí suspected two blonde haired children in two separate Roma families were also victims of abduction or trafficking when initially the families could not prove they were who they said they were.

Of course the Gardaí were going to suspect the worst and put the children in care until they could clear matters up.

That's only basic common sense.

I think you know that already and you have some sort of agenda you are pushing.

You're overreaction is just ludicrous now. Quit while you are ahead.:rolleyes:

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

There was a girl abducted by Roma in Greece.

Gardaí are trained to look for patterns.

You don't think that police wouldn't be suspicious and take no chances if they believed a child had been abducted?

Pull the other one!

If a child was proven to be abducted you would probably be screaming at the Gardaí for doing nothing wouldn't you?

You can't have it both ways.

It would be expected that they actually visit the hospital to view the records though, wouldn't it?