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"Occupied 6 counties"

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  • #32
    The Backwards Man
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    beardedmaster wrote: »
    In an unrelated matter... check out this class pic of Ireland I found!

    http://i.imgur.com/dslG7wD.jpg
    That is class. Kerry is missing.:p


  • #33
    anncoates
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    I'm not a fan of armchair nationalists or SF but even though the term Occupied Counties is a little bit loaded, it's essentially true.

    It's more a certain subset of people that use the term that annoy me as opposed to the veracity of the term itself.


  • #34
    Rubeter
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    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    What do ye reckon, is it acceptable in this day and age to refer to NI and here by terms such as "Occupied 6 Counties" or "Free State", or is it vaguely insulting?
    What's wrong with calling The Republic of Ireland the Free State or referring to Ulster as The Occupied 6 Counties, it often gets a laugh when I'm visiting Londonderry.


  • #35
    donegal__road
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    I was born in the early 70s, I grew up beside the border, I have been in and out to the north most weeks since I was no age.. when I was a student I lived for a year in Derry.. I teach once a week in county Tyrone for the last 5 years. I have many friends from the north, from both sides..

    And never until this day did I ever hear the North referred to as the 'Occupied six counties'... at least Ive never heard it used in conversation.

    The 'Free State' I have heard a few times, and it is a term used by the northern nationalist community rather than the Unionists, who tend to refer to southern Ireland as 'down South'.

    In fact, down South is broadly used by everyone in the North when referring to the Republic.


  • #36
    whomitconcerns
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    same way as we say up north...pretty much anything else is expressing political ideologies...not my cup of tea..


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  • #37
    Crooked Jack
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    donegal__road wrote: »
    I was born in the early 70s, I grew up beside the border, I have been in and out to the north most weeks since I was no age.. when I was a student I lived for a year in Derry.. I teach once a week in county Tyrone for the last 5 years. I have many friends from the north, from both sides..

    And never until this day did I ever hear the North referred to as the 'Occupied six counties'... at least Ive never heard it used in conversation.

    The 'Free State' I have heard a few times, and it is a term used by the northern nationalist community rather than the Unionists, who tend to refer to southern Ireland as 'down South'.

    In fact, down South is broadly used by everyone in the North when referring to the Republic.

    "Occupied" would generally only be used if you were making a specific political point, generally people would just say six counties or the north/ north-east


  • #38
    Guy:Incognito
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    Cant we all just occupy the british isles in peace.


  • #39
    wicklowstevo
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    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Sounds like a male version of Mary Lou...


    you mean Mary Lou is still female ???

    I demand proof !!


  • #40
    keeponhurling
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    Why are people who have a certain opinion on Northern Ireland's political status called "bar stoolers"?
    Are any unionists, or advocates of an independent Ulster, called bar-stoolers?

    Whereas people who hold views on anything else, (political reform in 26 counties, the environment, tax rates, immigration, the EU, the bank crisis, transport, the price of cabbage etc. etc.) aren't usually called bar-stoolers.

    Some people are called "liberal pinkos", however this again is only used on certain topics.


  • #41
    Almaviva
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    I regard the 6 counties to the North as part of the the true free state.
    Whereas I live in the South in a temporarily secessionist 26 counties of that same free state.


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  • #42
    Rubeter
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    keeponhurling wrote: »
    Why are people who have a certain opinion on Northern Ireland's political status called "bar stoolers"?
    Are any unionists, or advocates of an independent Ulster, called bar-stoolers?

    Whereas people who hold views on anything else, (political reform in 26 counties, the environment, tax rates, immigration, the EU, the bank crisis, transport, the price of cabbage etc. etc.) aren't usually called bar-stoolers.

    Some people are called "liberal pinkos", however this again is only used on certain topics.
    My favorite is Armchair Republican, I wonder how many people who use the term would prefer they got off their armchairs and started "doing things".
    Idiotic term.


  • #43
    MugMugs
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I do. Londonderry to wind up the RA heads, Doire Calgach to wind up the Billy boys.:)

    I certainly don't consider myself a "RA head" however I do find the use of Londonderry somewhat frustrating,

    Mainly because that isn't it's name.


  • #44
    Fighting Irish
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    lol


  • #45
    donegal__road
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    sure most of the Unionists have stopped using the expression Londonderry.


  • #46
    duchalla
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    Wacker The Attacker wrote: »
    Ulster says no

    But the man from Del Monte says YES!!!


  • #47
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    MugMugs wrote: »
    I certainly don't consider myself a "RA head" however I do find the use of Londonderry somewhat frustrating,

    Mainly because that isn't it's name.

    Well I'm not mad about it either but It is the official name from a legal standpoint.


  • #48
    Dyr
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    Wacker The Attacker wrote: »
    Ulster says no

    Ulster says FLEG

    No is so 90s


  • #49
    anncoates
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    keeponhurling wrote: »
    Why are people who have a certain opinion on Northern Ireland's political status called "bar stoolers"?
    Are any unionists, or advocates of an independent Ulster, called bar-stoolers?

    Whereas people who hold views on anything else, (political reform in 26 counties, the environment, tax rates, immigration, the EU, the bank crisis, transport, the price of cabbage etc. etc.) aren't usually called bar-stoolers..

    It possibly to do with the fact that most of the above don't involve near-metaphysical, bean-counting hot air about the validity of taking of human life when the closest they've got to doing same is Medal Of Honor.


  • #50
    Crooked Jack
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    anncoates wrote: »
    It possibly to do with the fact that most of the above don't involve near-metaphysical, bean-counting hot air about the validity of taking of human life when the closest they've got to doing same is Medal Of Honor.

    So your only allowed an opinion on war once you've killed someone yourself. How many notches have you got on your gun belt?


  • #51
    Crooked Jack
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Ulster says FLEG

    No is so 90s

    Respect are kulshur is the new "never, never, never"


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  • #52
    J Cheever Loophole
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    A good friend of mine, who is a loyal son of Ulster, jokingly refers to the Republic as the 'occupied 26 counties'. :D


  • #53
    J Cheever Loophole
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    duchalla wrote: »
    But the man from Del Monte says YES!!!

    And he's an orange man!! :P


  • #54
    anncoates
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    Crooked Jack wrote: »
    How many notches have you got on your gun belt?

    None whatsoever.

    Which thankfully is completely congruent with my position on the matter at hand.

    If I was, however, constantly getting into torturous hair-splitting justifications of it, whataboutery or thinking it's something to be celebrated - then I'd be at best a hypocrite and at worst, a voyeur.


  • #55
    wp_rathead
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    Im sad to say that few issues creates more apathy in me than anything relating to NI

    Wish i cared more but so many eejits on both sides
    As long as Ulster rugby lads can play for Ireland i don't mind


  • #56
    Rod Serling
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    wprathead wrote: »
    Im sad to say that few issues creates more apathy in me than anything relating to NI

    100 times this.


  • #57
    Fratton Fred
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    Occupied six counties and free state ate terms only used in Eire, not elsewhere in the British isles.

    I'd never heard of these names until I moved to Dublin from the main land.


  • #58
    end of the road
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    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Does it annoy anyone else when the North is referred to as such by armchair republican types? Was in a conversation with one the other day and he used the term repeatedly (and non-ironically). The funny thing is that this dude was only born in the late 80's (and so, I'd be surprised if he remembered anything about the troubles), came from the leafy suburbs of south Dublin and went to an expensive private school - just decided to take up "the cause" in the last few years.

    The border is a fact, it will remain so until and unless the people of both jurisdictions decide to get rid of it - get over it and stop this childishness...

    That and referring to this country as the "free state" - if we're going to talk about my country, at least have the bloody respect to call it by the name it actually has. I refuse to take anyone who does otherwise seriously in such discussions, if they are playing stupid games with even the name of the place then they are clearly clowns incapable of serious discussion.

    What do ye reckon, is it acceptable in this day and age to refer to NI and here by terms such as "Occupied 6 Counties" or "Free State", or is it vaguely insulting?
    as far as i'm concerned they are the occupied 6 counties, whatever about the people up there having a say on changing the border us lot down here should have no say as many are to good at both not giving a dam about the republic never mind the north and good at letting our powers and freedom be outsourced to a beurocratic organisation that is known as the EU

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #59
    Crooked Jack
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    wprathead wrote: »
    Im sad to say that few issues creates more apathy in me than anything relating to NI

    Wish i cared more but so many eejits on both sides
    As long as Ulster rugby lads can play for Ireland i don't mind
    Rod Serling wrote: »
    100 times this.

    And yet, here you are.
    I dont care about tupperware. I'm forever in the tupperware thread informing them thusly.


  • #60
    Crooked Jack
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Occupied six counties and free state ate terms only used in Eire, not elsewhere in the British isles.

    I'd never heard of these names until I moved to Dublin from the main land.

    While we're on the subject of ridiculous names.


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  • #61
    Fratton Fred
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    Crooked Jack wrote: »
    While we're on the subject of ridiculous names.

    Sorry, I meant mainland.


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