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towzer2010 · 10-10-2013 10:28PM

johnpawl wrote: »

To be fair I find him consistently breeding good calves. All the cows calved unassisted and calves very hardy. Had to use the jack on the two first Calvers however and they were on hay for 8 weeks prior.

+ 1 on the calf quality and all mine calved unassisted. My vet did tell me that he had an awful lot of sections to PT bulls this year though.

Bizzum · 10-10-2013 10:36PM

johnpawl wrote: »

To be fair I find him consistently breeding good calves.

Maybe your cows are consistently good?

The Real Elmer Fudd · 10-10-2013 10:40PM

johnpawl wrote: »

To be fair I find him consistently breeding good calves. All the cows calved unassisted and calves very hardy. Had to use the jack on the two first Calvers however and they were on hay for 8 weeks prior.

Anything I have seen out of bzb has been pretty decent. I think it was more his tales of hard calvings that put me off more than anything else. I opted for lim instead to be CWI, MBP & HCA. Have you crossed part & sim? Would u get similar calf to lim & sim - red body wit white head/face

johnpawl · 10-10-2013 10:42PM

Bizzum wrote: »

Maybe your cows are consistently good?

It's mainly cows that were bought as bucket fed calves off the dairy herd so no head turners!! Never had a sim on this farm.Any recommendations for a good ch bull for these cows for next year?

The Real Elmer Fudd · 10-10-2013 10:49PM

3 replacement heifers enjoying some after grass early this morning. They won't b calving until may 2014 at about 26 months. A lot later in the year than I'd like but it took them awhile to start cycling.

Bizzum · 10-10-2013 10:57PM

johnpawl wrote: »

Any recommendations for a good ch bull for these cows for next year?

What AI company do ya use?

towzer2010 · 10-10-2013 11:00PM

johnpawl wrote: »

It's mainly cows that were bought as bucket fed calves off the dairy herd so no head turners!! Never had a sim on this farm.Any recommendations for a good ch bull for these cows for next year?

LGL seems to be producing very good calves. A few in my BTAP group had smashing calves out of him. I've none from him yet but a few due in spring.

limo_100 · 10-10-2013 11:06PM

The Real Elmer Fudd wrote: »

3 replacement heifers enjoying some after grass early this morning. They won't b calving until may 2014 at about 26 months. A lot later in the year than I'd like but it took them awhile to start cycling.

fantastic heifers elmer what are they by? did you breed them or buy them in?

Bizzum · 10-10-2013 11:11PM

limo_100 wrote: »

fantastic heifers elmer what are they by? did you breed them or buy them in?

Nice lookin heifers alright. What are they carrying to?

The Real Elmer Fudd · 10-10-2013 11:16PM

limo_100 wrote: »

fantastic heifers elmer what are they by? did you breed them or buy them in?

Thanks, they are shaping up to make nice cows but only time will tell. I bought them in at about 6-8 weeks and reared them on a bucket. They are supposed to be purebred non reg but I've no proof of that. They where taken in from Germany.

limo_100 · 10-10-2013 11:20PM

The Real Elmer Fudd wrote: »

Thanks, they are shaping up to make nice cows but only time will tell. I bought them in at about 6-8 weeks and reared them on a bucket. They are supposed to be purebred non reg but I've no proof of that. They where taken in from Germany.

orit are they they ones form the wicklow company?? are you happy with them?? And what happens if you wanted to sell them in the mart would you b allowed?? would you buy them again and how much did they cost if you dont mind me asking?? sorry for all the questions

The Real Elmer Fudd · 10-10-2013 11:26PM

Bizzum wrote: »

Nice lookin heifers alright. What are they carrying to?

2 of them are ai'd to lim MBP and 1 to blonde KCE. Not the easiest of calved bulls for heifers but I think they'll have plenty of size by calving. I have used MBP before on heifers and haven't had anymore trouble other than throwing on the jack

The Real Elmer Fudd · 10-10-2013 11:45PM

limo_100 wrote: »

orit are they they ones form the wicklow company?? are you happy with them?? And what happens if you wanted to sell them in the mart would you b allowed?? would you buy them again and how much did they cost if you dont mind me asking?? sorry for all the questions

That's them. I'm extremely happy with how they turned out so far but I cant really answer the question until they calve down next year. I bought a few more this year which I hope to AI next spring. Can't fault the service Wicklow company provided or the health of the calves when I got them. Just can't remember the price off the top of my head but ill check tomorrow night if I get a chance. They where dearer than a decent continental off a fr in your local mart but the way I was looking at it was that hopefully it'll be worth it in the long run. I'm hoping to breed more replacement heifers from them. I'll prob get all bulls ha. There is no problem selling them in the mart. As far as I know there are certain factory's that won't kill them but I don't intend killing them for a long time. I'll try and get a pic of this years calves tomorrow as well.

Midlandsman80 · 11-10-2013 12:01PM

The Real Elmer Fudd wrote: »

Anything I have seen out of bzb has been pretty decent. I think it was more his tales of hard calvings that put me off more than anything else. I opted for lim instead to be CWI, MBP & HCA. Have you crossed part & sim? Would u get similar calf to lim & sim - red body wit white head/face

I would say the early stories of really easy calving’s and his calving % of about 3.5% on ICBF meant a lot put him on heifers or tight cows thinking it was going to be like an angus and might not have managed them too well and got caught when time came. His % went up to 8 but I’d bet the ppl that use him now might be more careful and could see that figure coming back down next time around.
Well know PT man told me the Blue society in Belgium have taken in the top man from PT society in France and bought SNX to improve/change direction of some current blue characteristics, how true this is I don’t know, was viewing some stock in his yard with someone considering buying embryo’s

johnpawl · 11-10-2013 04:15PM

Bizzum wrote: »

What AI company do ya use?

Dovea and munster

Muckit · 11-10-2013 04:35PM

If carlsberg did yard brushes they wouldn't get Italians to make them!! Can ya imagine cleaning up cow sh** with one of those! !

Marooned75 · 11-10-2013 04:46PM

Muckit wrote: »

If carlsberg did yard brushes they wouldn't get Italians to make them!! Can ya imagine cleaning up cow sh** with one of those! !

That wouldn't sweep mouse ****e

just do it · 11-10-2013 07:03PM

bogman_bass wrote: »

Same boys again. Disapointed that this lad didnt scrape in as a U

How old were they Bogman, and what weight?

I saw some 2 1/2yo stock going through the mart yesterday and can't see how they left any money behind them:rolleyes:

Bizzum · 11-10-2013 07:20PM

johnpawl wrote: »

Dovea and munster

AAx Fr cows, plain enough you say, would you be concerned at the prospect of breeding mousey coloured calves? They don't seem to be the best sellers?

I suppose its a handy enough calved Charolais you'd be talking about.
Since we started using our own Ch bulls I've taken my eye off the ball with the AI Charolais bulls to some extent. A bull like Pirate or Roundhill Doc might do a job for ya. In fact R Doc bred some lovely cattle for us, out of good cows.

Would a real good Lim be an option with a view of keeping heifers as replacements?

johnpawl · 11-10-2013 09:26PM

Bizzum wrote: »

AAx Fr cows, plain enough you say, would you be concerned at the prospect of breeding mousey coloured calves? They don't seem to be the best sellers?

I suppose its a handy enough calved Charolais you'd be talking about.
Since we started using our own Ch bulls I've taken my eye off the ball with the AI Charolais bulls to some extent. A bull like Pirate or Roundhill Doc might do a job for ya. In fact R Doc bred some lovely cattle for us, out of good cows.

Would a real good Lim be an option with a view of keeping heifers as replacements?

Had a bunch of ch calves off stock bull a few years ago, two of the heifers are shown in this thread a pg back with bzb calves. They all came this colour, got no mousey coloured ones, although I'm aware it's a possibility. Got good money for them as weanlings. I'll suss out round hill doc
Spose ozs for replacements?

The Real Elmer Fudd · 11-10-2013 09:37PM

The Real Elmer Fudd wrote: »

That's them. I'm extremely happy with how they turned out so far but I cant really answer the question until they calve down next year. I bought a few more this year which I hope to AI next spring. Can't fault the service Wicklow company provided or the health of the calves when I got them. Just can't remember the price off the top of my head but ill check tomorrow night if I get a chance. They where dearer than a decent continental off a fr in your local mart but the way I was looking at it was that hopefully it'll be worth it in the long run. I'm hoping to breed more replacement heifers from them. I'll prob get all bulls ha. There is no problem selling them in the mart. As far as I know there are certain factory's that won't kill them but I don't intend killing them for a long time. I'll try and get a pic of this years calves tomorrow as well.

This years heifers as promised. There about 6 months old and where off milk replacer from about 14 weeks.

Bizzum · 11-10-2013 09:42PM

johnpawl wrote: »

Spose ozs for replacements?

There's another man on here, hopefully he'll be along to add his expertise, but in the meantime....
OZS , FL21 and maybe from Dovea CWI.

But, I'd think your AAxFr cows will bring plenty of milk anyway so a good Lim bull probably won't do away with that.
So MBP and let it be lucky :-)

limo_100 · 11-10-2013 09:57PM

Bizzum wrote: »

There's another man on here, hopefully he'll be along to add his expertise, but in the meantime....
OZS , FL21 and maybe from Dovea CWI.

But, I'd think your AAxFr cows will bring plenty of milk anyway so a good Lim bull probably won't do away with that.
So MBP and let it be lucky :-)

I have two weanling heifers off one off OZS and one off FL21 weaned them and weighted them at 10months old 2weeks ago them were 415kg extremely happy with them there very well made with great pelvis structure. only thing is i av 2 skull forgot dehorn a few last year.

reilig · 14-10-2013 09:37AM

From this

reilig wrote: »

It's more like a scene from Bord Na Mona, but we got 800m of connacht agri pipes in yesterday.

Water is flowing in the trenches so I presume that when they are backfilled, the water will flow through the pipes.

Ground was sprayed off 10 days ago and baled up. Hoping to reseed it once the shores are in.

Backfilling has started this morning. Scraw will be put in on top of the pipes followed by the loose soil. Trenches dug with a mounding bucket and pipe is laid from 20 inches to 28 inches depending on the collector drain depth.

To this

10 weeks since we drained it. 6 weeks since the seed went in.

What we couldn't walk across 10 weeks ago has now become so dry that even some of the seed struggled and the weeds got a chance to get ahead of it. We sprayed the weed off over the weekend.

I have said it before, but I'll say it again. We spent about €4k on 9 acres between drainage and reseeding. This was land that was almost unfarmable. Now it's very dry and has a lot of potential for the future. We talked about going out to buy or rent extra land, but the old question lingers - why take on more land when you are not using your own to its full potential??

hugo29 · 14-10-2013 10:00AM

nice one reilig

i have 2 acres of habitat which is same as that and i think i will attack it next spring after exiting Reps

bogman_bass · 14-10-2013 10:03AM

just do it wrote: »

How old were they Bogman, and what weight?

I saw some 2 1/2yo stock going through the mart yesterday and can't see how they left any money behind them:rolleyes:

havent got the docket yet because I was in Budapest for the weekend.

2 were 24 months and the 3rd 25

hugo29 · 14-10-2013 10:06AM

bogman_bass wrote: »

havent got the docket yet because I was in Budapest for the weekend. 2 were 24 months and the 3rd 25

nice city isnt it, love the goulash,

did ya try the local brew

bogman_bass · 14-10-2013 10:56AM

Dont drink myself but the rest of the lads did plenty of sampling.
Bigest problem was trying to find a night club that wasnt a strip joint. just stuck with the bars in the end.

Bizzum · 14-10-2013 11:13AM

bogman_bass wrote: »

Dont drink myself but the rest of the lads did plenty of sampling.
Bigest problem was trying to find a night club that wasnt a strip joint. just stuck with the bars in the end.

Did ya visit any of the bath houses? Well worth a look for the sheer opulence!

moy83 · 14-10-2013 12:07PM

hugo29 wrote: »

nice city isnt it, love the goulash,

did ya try the local brew

I could say the opposit , the goulash nearly killed me I spent most of the time eating out of mcdonalds !

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