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Bangernomics car of the week/day part III
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No they really are terrible. I have seen nearly new examples back in the day give serious problems. Seeing as I should back up my posts I will say that there is regular discussions about them on the net including on here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055621785Each to their own
I wouldn't say no to one. I had one as a rental, the 2.0 136bhp version and it was a fairly nippy car and very good on diesel.
So IMO merits the bangernomics thread
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Old diesel wrote: »I can't think of anything that's worse - apart from the NSU Ro80 with the Rotary engine back in the late 60s/early 70s
At least that engine was revolutionary and designed by people with vision, passion and real engineering prowess. Unlike that block of semi-solid sh1te from Mazda My ads on adverts.ie:
Victron stuff for sale, Multiplus-II, Quattro, other inverters and batteries and usually some watches!
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whatever about an engine designed in the 60's or 70's, it's inexcusable imo that mazda of all car makers could make such a rubbish engine in this day and age especially after all the reliable diesels they have produced up to then.At least that engine was revolutionary and designed by people with vision, passion and real engineering prowess. Unlike that block of semi-solid sh1te from Mazda
must of been one of the cleaners they drafted in to design it in order to save money because no one with any bit of mechanical knowledge could f**k up so badly.0 -
At least that engine was revolutionary and designed by people with vision, passion and real engineering prowess. Unlike that block of semi-solid sh1te from Mazda
Well that's true - I mean worst in terms of durability or going spectularly wrong at spectacularly low mileages.
It also exposes the fact that Irish dealers aren't always the most knowledgeable - since you sometimes see Mazda 6 diesels being advertised for sale at dealers.
Incidentally the original car linked to has 178,000 on the clock (picture in ad with mileage on it) - I wonder how many engines its had :eek:.
If its still on its original engine - most unlikely - then the owners should all club together and buy lotto tickets by the truckload
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I've been dealing with a semi recently regarding the 166.. There is just something about it. It's not particularly good looking but God is at a lovely thing to sit in.
If only the 2.4 engine for the 166 ever came here
or incidentally I'd love the 2.0 V6 turbo 0 -
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I've been dealing with a semi recently regarding the 166.. There is just something about it. It's not particularly good looking but God is at a lovely thing to sit in.
If only the 2.4 engine for the 166 ever came here or incidentally I'd love the 2.0 V6 turbo The 166 also looks very nice with those alloys...
It is some place to be alright :cool: one of the best things I did for my one was get those wheels (Sportivo) and ditch those awful looking pepperpots. Though the tyres were a huge factor (Michelins on the Sportivos as opposed to Chinese plastic on the pepperpots) the ride quality hasn't deteriorated, actually improved
I'd love a 2.4 myself! 2.5 will have to do :pac:Old diesel wrote: »406 looks promising - was thinking though there was something wrong when the seller mentioned 40 mpg - so used to these being diesels.
Is it me - or does the Alfa 166 look very nice in black.
Think Peugeot and Alfa need to go off and have a long heard think for themselves.
Here we have two of their cars in bangernomics price range that are more interesting/nicer/desirable - all imo - then anything either of the 2 manufacturers sell new today.
Enough said.
I wish mine were black it really suits it, a strong dark colour made them look well. Right wheels too
Unusual to see a petrol 406 in Ireland, less chance of it being worked hard and looked after a bit better than the equivalent HDi
Both seriously comfortable cars, worth it alone to do long distances in and not get sore0 -
It is some place to be alright :cool: one of the best things I did for my one was get those wheels (Sportivo) and ditch those awful looking pepperpots. Though the tyres were a huge factor (Michelins on the Sportivos as opposed to Chinese plastic on the pepperpots) the ride quality hasn't deteriorated, actually improved
I'd love a 2.4 myself! 2.5 will have to do :pac:
I wish mine were black it really suits it, a strong dark colour made them look well. Right wheels too
Unusual to see a petrol 406 in Ireland, less chance of it being worked hard and looked after a bit better than the equivalent HDi
Both seriously comfortable cars, worth it alone to do long distances in and not get sore
Yeah - I keep wondering to myself if I have imagined the lovely comfort of various 406s I have beein in.
From memory - they are extremely comfortable cars (been a few years since I was in one last).
Why the French moved away from that is beyond me
407 not a disaster comfort wise - but not really standing out comfort wise compared to the 406.
Still don't get how Peugeot somehow managed to move from building fabulous cars going back the years from 504s to 205s through to 406s - and now they are average.
508 does look nice though to be fair - but I can never see it being anything like as comfy as a 406.
Mind you - the only car ive being in (v8 LS 400/430s aside) that's matched the 406s were the Renault Safrane and Renault 25s.
Im off now better find some cars:)0 -
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Old diesel wrote: »Yeah - I keep wondering to myself if I have imagined the lovely comfort of various 406s I have beein in.
From memory - they are extremely comfortable cars (been a few years since I was in one last).
Why the French moved away from that is beyond me
407 not a disaster comfort wise - but not really standing out comfort wise compared to the 406.
Still don't get how Peugeot somehow managed to move from building fabulous cars going back the years from 504s to 205s through to 406s - and now they are average.
508 does look nice though to be fair - but I can never see it being anything like as comfy as a 406.
Mind you - the only car ive being in (v8 LS 400/430s aside) that's matched the 406s were the Renault Safrane and Renault 25s.
Im off now better find some cars:)
I put up a fair few miles in my one a week, I could sit in it all day starting off in the 406's I originally wanted to stick leathers in but after a few days decided otherwise. Got GLX seats with lumbar and tilt, perfect. No back pains from driving, nice and comfortable even heavily lowered
Sure the 166/Mercs/BMW's here are more comfortable but they're not in the same league. Dare I say more comfortable than 156 momos....? Only one to rival the 406 seats were the mk1 Lagunas and Xantias..... A bit of a trend emerging!
Oblig automobil
NCT till July, 1100
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Simple answer is money. Make more money as a car maker. More economical ways of making cars - in effect makes cars cheaper, more budget like.Old diesel wrote: »Yeah - I keep wondering to myself if I have imagined the lovely comfort of various 406s I have beein in.
From memory - they are extremely comfortable cars (been a few years since I was in one last).
Why the French moved away from that is beyond me
407 not a disaster comfort wise - but not really standing out comfort wise compared to the 406.
Still don't get how Peugeot somehow managed to move from building fabulous cars going back the years from 504s to 205s through to 406s - and now they are average.
508 does look nice though to be fair - but I can never see it being anything like as comfy as a 406.
Mind you - the only car ive being in (v8 LS 400/430s aside) that's matched the 406s were the Renault Safrane and Renault 25s.
Im off now better find some cars:)
The 406 and 405 before it were some of the most underrated cars made at the time.
I have owned both the the 405 and the 406 - both in diesel guises and both excelled in every area. They really were great cars.
Now, I wouldn't have a 407, if it were my choice. they are reliable enough by all accounts but nothing like the older cars that put real daylight between their rivals.
Now the Pugs are very ordinary imo.0 -
I put up a fair few miles in my one a week, I could sit in it all day starting off in the 406's I originally wanted to stick leathers in but after a few days decided otherwise. Got GLX seats with lumbar and tilt, perfect. No back pains from driving, nice and comfortable even heavily lowered
Sure the 166/Mercs/BMW's here are more comfortable but they're not in the same league. Dare I say more comfortable than 156 momos....? Only one to rival the 406 seats were the mk1 Lagunas and Xantias..... A bit of a trend emerging!
Oblig automobil
NCT till July, 1100
A bit of trend emerging is right - the French used to make very very comfortable cars.
Funny though you've posted a Merc - they've always being top of the pile in the competition to beat the older French cars for comfort.
heres something quite a bit less comfy - but still a nice thing
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-fiat-panda-nct-2015/5622783
What do we think of Pandas in general - put up a thread about Lancers some time back - but now these are on my radar.
Hard to value that one - Panda prices seem to be like up and down depending on what moods sellers are in.
Does have test to August (I think) 2015.0 -
Old diesel wrote: »A bit of trend emerging is right - the French used to make very very comfortable cars.
Funny though you've posted a Merc - they've always being top of the pile in the competition to beat the older French cars for comfort.
heres something quite a bit less comfy - but still a nice thing
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-fiat-panda-nct-2015/5622783
What do we think of Pandas in general - put up a thread about Lancers some time back - but now these are on my radar.
Hard to value that one - Panda prices seem to be like up and down depending on what moods sellers are in.
Does have test to August (I think) 2015.
The 280SE here has seats in it like armchairs, seriously comfortable :cool: but I'd expect that from a W126! Even the cloths in it originally were nice to sit in
Pandas have a lovely driving position, very roomy generally cheerful and cheap to run, mind the coolant system. Apart from that a grand little car 0 -
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The 280SE here has seats in it like armchairs, seriously comfortable :cool: but I'd expect that from a W126! Even the cloths in it originally were nice to sit in
Pandas have a lovely driving position, very roomy generally cheerful and cheap to run, mind the coolant system. Apart from that a grand little car
W126 - very very nice, never been in one - but if the W124s ive been in are any indication - a good W126 must be something lovely to ride in.
On Pandas - when you say coolant - is that the Head gasket issue you get on Puntos.
Thought a 1.1 might have ducked that issue - but I won't let it put me off - all cars have their issues.
They do seem reliable generally from what I see - will have to think about it.
Theres a perfectly adequate car in the yard here I can use - but its not mine - and its boring (2.0 Corolla diesel - non turbo). 0
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