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Mother of Baby P due for release

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    lukesmom wrote: »
    Ok we will just agree to disagree

    Was just about to say the same thing! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,120 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    PLUG71 wrote: »
    Could not have said it better myself!

    Maybe people that dont have kids do not fully understand the anger of those that do.

    I have two a boy and a girl under 3 and if anybody hurt them I would pay them back 100 fold.

    NOTHING makes my blood boil more than the ever increasing violence towards children and the lack of punishment to those that commit the offenses.

    Then there are the Pc brigade out there that think people should not get angry.

    not a big fan of Ed but:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    She should be sterilised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    meemeemee wrote: »
    The final act in the death of that child, was to be punched in the face whilst he lay in his cot. A tooth was found in his digestive tract.

    The three individuals should be locked up for a long time.

    it's a joke.

    Yep, but what to you expect from a disgusting society like the UK ?

    That REWARDS child murderers .. look at James Bulger killers, nothing but
    handouts and chance after chance since they did killed him.



    And they would jail a Spurs fan for calling himself a "yid" .... SICK SICK SICK SICK Society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    There is a line that once you cross it, there is no coming back. Special sentences should be available for those instances, for me, she certainly crossed it, I am one of the least emotional people you could meet, but this genuinely upsets me. I have had tears in my eyes and have found it very difficult to continue reading about the abuse that child endured.

    I would say she should be locked away for life, but why should the state have to support her after what she did to person who looked to her for support and love?

    Death penalty for me. This wasn't just a heat of the moment thing, it was a sustained period of violence and torture toward her own flesh and blood, there is no reconciling that. She should be put down like the mangy dog that she is.


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  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Yep, but what to you expect from a disgusting society like the UK ?

    That REWARDS child murderers .. look at James Bulger killers, nothing but
    handouts and chance after chance since they did killed him.



    And they would jail a Spurs fan for calling himself a "yid" .... SICK SICK SICK SICK Society.

    Hey, I'm from that UK society you are blaming. I was brought up in one of the toughest parts of London, I was a single mother, I now live with a man who is not the father of my two children. Damn, I meet all the criteria of Tracy Connelly!

    But I'm NOT an evil twisted B**** like her, nor are, i would imagine, the majority of other women who could tick all of the above society boxes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Yep, but what to you expect from a disgusting society like the UK ?

    That REWARDS child murderers .. look at James Bulger killers, nothing but
    handouts and chance after chance since they did killed him.



    And they would jail a Spurs fan for calling himself a "yid" .... SICK SICK SICK SICK Society.

    That is completely ridiculous. You cannot blame the whole of UK society for rewarding the killers of James bulger. Absolute nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭emo72


    is it not better for her to stay in jail? i dont think it would be safe for her to walk the streets. i dont think she would be capable of keeping a low profile. she will be battered to death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭meemeemee


    Within weeks one of the British tabloids will get a tip off from a bail hostel, and they will run a story. It will probably have a local shop in the background and locals would be able to work it out. At 23 stone she is hardly going to blend into the background.

    Will a member of the public attack her. Unlikely. The days of mob justice and people being strung up in the UK is long gone.

    The rogues gallery of truly nasty people walking the UK's streets is endless.

    One of the other killers was released after only a few years and the papers tracked him down. Nobody bothered him. He re-offended.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2030473/Anger-Baby-Ps-family-lodger-jailed-death-freed-walk-streets-just-years.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    emo72 wrote: »
    is it not better for her to stay in jail? i dont think it would be safe for her to walk the streets. i dont think she would be capable of keeping a low profile. she will be battered to death.

    With a bit of luck, hopefully your man in Athlone will never see the inside of a cell for too long either before someone gets him too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    Hey, I'm from that UK society you are blaming. I was brought up in one of the toughest parts of London, I was a single mother, I now live with a man who is not the father of my two children. Damn, I meet all the criteria of Tracy Connelly!

    But I'm NOT an evil twisted B**** like her, nor are, i would imagine, the majority of other women who could tick all of the above society boxes.
    Well said, some posters need to be more careful what they post!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Yep, but what to you expect from a disgusting society like the UK ?

    That REWARDS child murderers .. look at James Bulger killers, nothing but
    handouts and chance after chance since they did killed him.



    And they would jail a Spurs fan for calling himself a "yid" .... SICK SICK SICK SICK Society.
    What a stupid idiotic attitude you are putting across with this statement!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    People like her should be in prison for the rest of their lives. I honestly see absolutely no justification for her to ever be free to walk the streets again.

    I find it quite surprising that there are people who defend early releases like this. The three of them tortured a defenceless child, they don't deserve any leniency whatsoever. What justification is there for any of them to be free?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭jc84


    they should sterilize this broad before she is released, a true monster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭shuffles88


    If ever there was a case for sterilisation this woman is it. Her jail term seems like a slap on the wrist compared to the lifetime of pain, neglect and torture that little boy lived through. Did he even know what it felt like to be loved?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,946 ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    My son is the same age as Baby P when he died, and it really hits home the barbaric nature of this crime. I hate to see my son cry after his vaccinations, and my stomach is in knots when he is sick. I cried so much when I read about this case, it really affected me.

    I cannot begin to imagine the evil that can cause a little baby to feel nothing but fear and pain and torture in his short life. His father tried to keep him after Peter became hysterical being handed over at the end of his weekend with his dad, but the police and social services forced him to hand his son over to his torturers.

    Their sentences were far too short. And an insult to that beautiful little boy's memory. I cant say I'd shed a tear if she felt a fraction of the fear she inflicted on her son while someone gave her a beating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    Neyite wrote: »
    My son is the same age as Baby P when he died, and it really hits home the barbaric nature of this crime. I hate to see my son cry after his vaccinations, and my stomach is in knots when he is sick. I cried so much when I read about this case, it really affected me.

    I cannot begin to imagine the evil that can cause a little baby to feel nothing but fear and pain and torture in his short life. His father tried to keep him after Peter became hysterical being handed over at the end of his weekend with his dad, but the police and social services forced him to hand his son over to his torturers.

    Their sentences were far too short. And an insult to that beautiful little boy's memory. I cant say I'd shed a tear if she felt a fraction of the fear she inflicted on her son while someone gave her a beating.

    Did not no that, thats terrible!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    PLUG71 wrote: »
    Did not no that, thats terrible!

    Sorry I intended to quote this!

    but the police and social services forced him to hand his son over to his torturers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭skafish


    Overheal wrote: »
    Maybe society doesn't have all of the facts? I mean aside from snippets I've read on Wikipedia and a few news articles, I don't really have the complete breakdown of what happened or how it happened or who did what to whom or what was involved.

    I fear that the internet, while providing people a very broad scope of information has also caused most people to gain a rather short perspective and narrow view of the world. I mean, your post makes the implication that she is a soulless, unrepentant sadist. I've seen a documentary or two about mothers who were classified as sadists, don't get me wrong. But they often whipped their kids or extinguished cigarettes on their bare skin or other levels of perversity because it made them feel powerful.

    Why do the mothers possible personal issues come into it? In brief, she should never have been given custody of poor Peter (although it is easy to be wise after the fact).
    As I read things, she did not just allow her son (and the relationship is not the most important issue here, the same applies to any child) to be abused and tortured, she actively encouraged it.
    She should be executed, side by side with her lover and his brother.
    Some lines should not be crossed, and some people are beyond redemption


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,709 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I like to believe that there is a special place reserved in hell for people who abuse children physically or sexually.

    5 yrs wasnt enough simple as the things that little fella endured would make you cry reading it. That case was horrific and deserved a special sentence, one that fit the crime. A life term should have been the bare minimum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭remsburgsgirl


    Did any of the people involved in social services, or his medical care over his lifetime, ever get reprimanded for missing (ignoring) what I can only imagine to be obvious abuse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Did any of the people involved in social services, or his medical care over his lifetime, ever get reprimanded for missing (ignoring) what I can only imagine to be obvious abuse?

    God question. It would seem like they tend to pass the buck instead of taking the bait for their own negligence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    I'm absolutely sickened that they are letting this cúnt of a mother out. She should never be released.
    I for one would quite happily volunteer to put a bullet in her pig ugly head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    skafish wrote: »
    Some lines should not be crossed, and some people are beyond redemption

    I could not agree more - some things are just unforgiveable. It would not be possible to heap enough pain, suffering and misery on the people involved in that childs death. Scum the lot of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Did any of the people involved in social services, or his medical care over his lifetime, ever get reprimanded for missing (ignoring) what I can only imagine to be obvious abuse?

    The head of Haringey social services was sacked, after it emerged that after over 60 visits, he still wasn't deemed in enough danger to be taken from his mother.

    However, she appealed the sacking and won.

    The consultant paediatrician who saw him just before he died, failed to spot Peter's broken back and didn't report his injuries to authorities, even though he was on the at risk register, was removed from the medical register by the GMC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Neyite wrote: »
    My son is the same age as Baby P when he died, and it really hits home the barbaric nature of this crime. I hate to see my son cry after his vaccinations, and my stomach is in knots when he is sick. I cried so much when I read about this case, it really affected me.

    I cannot begin to imagine the evil that can cause a little baby to feel nothing but fear and pain and torture in his short life. His father tried to keep him after Peter became hysterical being handed over at the end of his weekend with his dad, but the police and social services forced him to hand his son over to his torturers.

    Their sentences were far too short. And an insult to that beautiful little boy's memory. I cant say I'd shed a tear if she felt a fraction of the fear she inflicted on her son while someone gave her a beating.


    I shoudn't have read that .... I feel sick ..

    It's tough enough in the mornings dropping my boy of at the creche and seeing him cry, that's heartbreaking ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,946 ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Did any of the people involved in social services, or his medical care over his lifetime, ever get reprimanded for missing (ignoring) what I can only imagine to be obvious abuse?

    The peadatrcian who missed the 3 broken ribs and broken spine a few days before he died and dismissed him as cranky and miserable during the physical exam was struck off. The social worker was fired I think but has been fighting through the labour costs or some such appeals process.

    From when Peter was a year old the abuse started and he and his siblings were placed on the at risk register. The mother was arrested a couple of times and the children stayed with friends or other family where they thrived. But then she demanded them back. When the paramedics were taking Peter to hospital after finding him blue in the cot clad only in a nappy she made them wait while she found her fags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Jesus Christ, the pain that poor child must have been in, I broke my ribs once and I could barely walk for about a week (i'm a 15st bloke).
    What an absolute piece of shít that mother is, my daughter is teething at the moment and I was late for work this morning because she didn't want me to put her down and I felt too sorry for her to leave!
    I just can't believe they're letting her out - it's an outrage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭meemeemee


    I apologise, this post is going to be very distressing. Those of a sensitive nature should probably not read on;

    Tracey Connolly is being released after what some would consider a pretty short period. She was jailed for her part in the abuse and murder of Baby Peter.

    IT IS NOT THE WHOLE STORY.

    The public has not been made aware of the full story. If they had, any revulsion they have for her would reach a whole new level.

    Tracey Connelly had 4 children. At the time of his death, Baby Peter was at the youngest. She went on to bore a 5th by Stephen Barker

    Stephen Barker, the vile Tracey Connolly's peadophile "boyfriend" was also sentenced for, and I apologise for typing this, anally raping a two year old girl.

    The poor girl was Baby Peter's older sibling.

    Tracey Connolly was also charged in relation to this case, and whilst she did not actually rape the child, her charges were along the lines of "allowing it to happen" or "facilitating". She was not convicted of this.

    From The Guardian: The semi-detached house in which Peter Connelly spent the last hours of his brief life is bland and unremarkable. At one time the occupants of number 37 included an obese young woman, her four small children, a 6ft 4in muscular man, his brother and his brother's three children and 15-year-old girlfriend, three large dogs and a couple of snakes. The family were also white and of Anglo-Irish origin". :eek:

    The dogs were Rotweillers. Evidence suggests that some of Baby Peter's injuries were by the Rotweillers.

    This woman is unfit ever to be let near a child again in her life.

    What the F**K were the Social Workers doing ? If you visited a set up like this, would you not have some concerns ?

    What else has been covered up ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Hanging is too good for them,a defenseless child ffs:mad:


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