The Fianna Fáil voter

ThePieintheSky · 06-10-2013 08:03PM #1

Speaking as one of the exiled I was shocked at the victory handed to the Fianna Fáil party at the weekend.

They must have big latent support out there, especially in sophisticated areas (but even in Dublin people supported Fianna Fáil by proxy!), despite destroying the country.

What is wrong with these people? What does Fianna Fáil have to do so they will reconsider giving them support?

And apparently the polling companies are saying some of these supporters lie about supporting Fianna Fáil and then vote for them

It's like a cult. A scary cult. Is Micheál Martin the leader of a cult?

Lone Stone · 06-10-2013 08:04PM

A no vote is not a vote for FF :rolleyes:

My name is URL · 06-10-2013 08:05PM

ThePieintheSky wrote: »

Speaking as one of the exiled I was shocked at the victory handed to the Fianna Fáil party at the weekend.

You're in the UAE right now? Thank Allah for small miracles

Muise... · 06-10-2013 08:05PM

UAE. UAfcukingE.

and you think Irish politics are a bit of a mess?

Sh1tbag OToole · 06-10-2013 08:07PM

I reckon if FF were backing the abolition of the seaned the amendment would have been defeated by an even bigger margin

The people havnt forgotten what that shower have done..

Skid X · 06-10-2013 08:07PM

ThePieintheSky wrote: »

Speaking as one of the exiled I was shocked at the victory handed to the Fianna Fáil party at the weekend.

That post is exactly why we should be very slow to extend voting rights to emigrants.

dark crystal · 06-10-2013 08:07PM

OP, if I were you, I'd delete your location from your profile - every thread you start, someone ends up bringing up the fact you live there!

Wompa1 · 06-10-2013 08:08PM

Muise... wrote: »

UAE. UAfcukingE.

and you think Irish politics are a bit of a mess?

Masterfully deflected. You're in Australia Canada America New Zealand UAE and you think Ireland blah blah blah

dobman88 · 06-10-2013 08:09PM

ThePieintheSky wrote: »

Speaking as one of the exiled I was shocked at the victory handed to the Fianna Fáil party at the weekend.

They must have big latent support out there, especially in boggier areas (but even in Dublin people supported Fianna Fáil by proxy!), despite destroying the country.

What is wrong with these people? What does Fianna Fáil have to do so they will reconsider giving them support?

And apparently the polling companies are saying some of these supporters lie about supporting Fianna Fáil and then vote for them

It's like a cult. A scary cult. Is Micheál Martin the leader of a cult?

Please elaborate on boggier areas, bit of a generalisation don't ya think

ThePieintheSky · 06-10-2013 08:10PM

Muise... wrote: »

UAE. UAfcukingE.

and you think Irish politics are a bit of a mess?

Yes. Fianna Fáil?

I came here for cleaner politics.

Muise... · 06-10-2013 08:11PM

Wompa1 wrote: »

Masterfully deflected. You're in Australia Canada America New Zealand UAE and you think Ireland blah blah blah

nah, OP lives in a slave-built lalaland and has a funny theory about a recent democratic result here blah blah blah.

ThePieintheSky · 06-10-2013 08:13PM

dark crystal wrote: »

OP, if I were you, I'd delete your location from your profile - every thread you start, someone ends up bringing up the fact you live there!

Good idea. Only found out I could do that! Thank you.

ThePieintheSky · 06-10-2013 08:14PM

Lone Stone wrote: »

A no vote is not a vote for FF :rolleyes:

There was a picture on a local news website of a positively beaming Micheál Martin. My jaw nearly hit the floor. I thought something terrible had happened:eek: Like they got back in or something.

kneemos · 06-10-2013 08:15PM

I don't think you're giving FG enough credit.They're equally capable of funking things up.

cletus van damme · 06-10-2013 08:15PM

It was a political victory for Martin over Kenny but that doesn't mean the No voters did so to support Martin , or have anything to do with him.
Cos they didn't.

But he won in his battle to show up Enda - that's politics to snatch at any victory.

And he beat Enda good too

forgotten password · 06-10-2013 08:16PM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

I reckon if FF were backing the abolition of the seaned the amendment would have been defeated by an even bigger margin

The people havnt forgotten what that shower have done..

forgiven, not forgotten

Wompa1 · 06-10-2013 08:16PM

Muise... wrote: »

nah, OP lives in a slave-built lalaland and has a funny theory about a recent democratic result here blah blah blah.

OP may be Irish, may have moved to the United Arab Emirates a few months ago....

My name is URL · 06-10-2013 08:18PM

cletus van damme wrote: »

But he won in his battle to show up Enda - that's politics to snatch at any victory.

And he beat Enda good too

I think Enda won that particular battle himself!

ThePieintheSky · 06-10-2013 08:21PM

Wompa1 wrote: »

OP may be Irish, may have moved to the United Arab Emirates a few months ago....

Why would people think i'm not Irish.

Or do random foreigners frequently check in on the minutia of Irish politics? Thing is, and I hope others don't have to move, but when you are away the anger is a little more palpable when you see certain things at home. I have been away for 2 years and have followed everything from home very closely.

To be fair, although i'm not there, I get the impression the current crowd have not done too badly considering the state of the place left to them. I'm sure someone will jump down my throat for saying that though.

Nodin · 06-10-2013 08:26PM

ThePieintheSky wrote: »

It's like a cult. A scary cult. Is Micheál Martin the leader of a cult?

...that would require leadership qualities that micheal lacks...

cletus van damme · 06-10-2013 08:27PM

Nodin wrote: »

...that would require leadership qualities that micheal lacks...

maybe a leadership like....say gerry adams?

hatrickpatrick · 06-10-2013 08:29PM

God dammit.
Guilt by association with regard to referenda is an absolute plague on Irish democracy. We had the exact same sh!te with Lisbon (vote no and you're a Shinner) and as far as I can remember, with almost every single referendum I've lived through.

No, a choice in a referendum does not indicate anything other than a rejection or acceptance of what is asked on the ballot paper. To suggest otherwise is condescending, belittling and downright insulting to the Irish population.

Nodin · 06-10-2013 08:30PM

cletus van damme wrote: »

maybe a leadership like....say gerry adams?

Do please elucidate your doubtless profound point.

mb1725 · 06-10-2013 08:31PM

No mention of the 'F words' on my ballot paper.

amazedanddazed · 06-10-2013 08:35PM

Skid X wrote: »

That post is exactly why we should be very slow to extend voting rights to emigrants.

Given that 51% of the Irish electorate voted to keep the Seanad despite its incredibly anti-democratic nature and "jobs for the boys" culture, the problem of incredibly ignorant, idiotic voters damaging our society is clearly a lot closer to home. Nice scapegoating, though.

galwayrush · 06-10-2013 08:40PM

I blame inbreeding.

cletus van damme · 06-10-2013 08:40PM

Nodin wrote: »

Do please elucidate your doubtless profound point.

no. I won't because my point would be lacking something unless you pronounce that Gerry has those leadership qualities that Martin lacks.

You were kinda vague on what they were but I was hoping you'd go down a certain route on leadership qualities and maybe throw in a point on virtue, truth, honesty and defender of the oppressed or something laudable (i'm sure you get the picture)

I was trying to draw you in here. and then retort with accusations that Gerry Adams is not a great leader or throw some dig at him and inadvertently your support of him too but more him than you.

It could have been profound or not - really depended on your reply.
But it probably won't happen now and I'll have to kill the remaining hour till love/hate another way.

another time, perhaps?

Red Pepper · 06-10-2013 08:44PM

Lone Stone wrote: »

A no vote is not a vote for FF :rolleyes:

Whether you like it or not, it gives them legitimacy again. It also gives them confidence. Unfortunately they will be a force at the next election especially if Enda is still leader.

michael999999 · 06-10-2013 08:46PM

Red Pepper wrote: »

Whether you like it or not, it gives them legitimacy again. It also gives them confidence. Unfortunately they will be a force at the next election especially if Enda is still leader.

**** em!

A party of crooks liars and thieves!!

Red Pepper · 06-10-2013 08:48PM

Nodin wrote: »

...that would require leadership qualities that micheal lacks...

Enda said he would not debate with Martin on RTE because he would only "embarrass" him. It was a joke of sorts but in my mind it made Enda look very very weak and made Martin look a credible opposition leader (with only 20 seats!). The whole thing is a disaster for FG.

Bertser · 06-10-2013 08:48PM

A no vote wasn't a vote for FF, but it worries me how good they're doing in the polls.

The Fianna Fáil voter

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