iOS 7 GM/Public Release

pbarr · 19-09-2013 12:39PM

Sorry if it's been asked already but if I upgrade from 6.1.3 to 7 will I be able to go back and how would I do it.

miralize · 19-09-2013 12:40PM

Btr wrote: »

Same for me on 5 neither weather or shares are updating and no advice on tech sites. Notifications are switched on - any ideas please. The double click which leads you to all open apps raises an interesting question as to whether it's wasting battery

Go to Notification settings and make sure its enabled

Sad Professor · 19-09-2013 12:47PM

pbarr wrote: »

Sorry if it's been asked already but if I upgrade from 6.1.3 to 7 will I be able to go back and how would I do it.

Apple will stop signing iOS 6 very soon if they haven't already. If you're not sure don't update.

Btr · 19-09-2013 12:52PM

It is in my case

Captain Flaps · 19-09-2013 12:57PM

pbarr wrote: »

Sorry if it's been asked already but if I upgrade from 6.1.3 to 7 will I be able to go back and how would I do it.

Technically yes, but it's a bit of a learning curve if you're not used to faffing about with manual updates. The short answer is that if Apple stop signing it you'll probably have to download whatever version you want from somewhere like here, open itunes with your phone attached, then either Shift+click (PC) or Option+Click (Mac) on the 'restore' tab and choose the software you just downloaded. This will return your phone to the iOS version specified, though really you should only be going back one version if you don't like iOS7.

decies · 19-09-2013 01:03PM

My brightness settings have suddenly gone very dark , if I now slide the setting over to the left you can't see the screen pitch dark !! Any ideas what's going on . I phone 5 by the way

guil · 19-09-2013 01:06PM

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Technically yes, but it's a bit of a learning curve if you're not used to faffing about with manual updates. The short answer is that if Apple stop signing it you'll probably have to download whatever version you want from somewhere like here, open itunes with your phone attached, then either Shift+click (PC) or Option+Click (Mac) on the 'restore' tab and choose the software you just downloaded. This will return your phone to the iOS version specified, though really you should only be going back one version if you don't like iOS7.

It's no where near that simple to downgrade and getting harder and harder with each phone and is release

guil · 19-09-2013 01:08PM

decies wrote: »

My brightness settings have suddenly gone very dark , if I now slide the setting over to the left you can't see the screen pitch dark !! Any ideas what's going on . I phone 5 by the way

Tried a reset? Hold sleep and home buttons until the apple appears on screen. The odd time it has haopenede to me I just lock it and it's fixed when I unlock

Brian017 · 19-09-2013 01:09PM

Does automatic app updates drain the battery that much? I know Background App Refresh does.

Captain Flaps · 19-09-2013 01:13PM

guil wrote: »

It's no where near that simple to downgrade and getting harder and harder with each phone and is release

I followed that exact method with a 4s last night after the update landed and my girlfriend hated it.

guil · 19-09-2013 01:31PM

Captain Flaps wrote: »

I followed that exact method with a 4s last night after the update landed and my girlfriend hated it.

That's all well and good. Apple are still signing 6.1.3 but I'm nearly certain it's not possible to downgrade an iPhone 4S but I could be wrong. If it's possible it's not easy.

Sad Professor · 19-09-2013 01:50PM

Siri is much improved since the last time I used it.

Captain Flaps · 19-09-2013 01:54PM

guil wrote: »

That's all well and good. Apple are still signing 6.1.3 but I'm nearly certain it's not possible to downgrade an iPhone 4S but I could be wrong. If it's possible it's not easy.

Try reading my previous statement again.

pbarr · 19-09-2013 02:01PM

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Technically yes, but it's a bit of a learning curve if you're not used to faffing about with manual updates. The short answer is that if Apple stop signing it you'll probably have to download whatever version you want from somewhere like here, open itunes with your phone attached, then either Shift+click (PC) or Option+Click (Mac) on the 'restore' tab and choose the software you just downloaded. This will return your phone to the iOS version specified, though really you should only be going back one version if you don't like iOS7.

Will this work if Apple stop signing it though.

Sad Professor · 19-09-2013 02:03PM

No. If Apple aren't signing it anymore and you don't have the SHSH blobs saved, then you can't downgrade.

Dman001 · 19-09-2013 02:04PM

Few bugs here and there on my iPad 3rd Gen, overall iOS7 doesn't fell as stable as iOS6 on my device. There's a few nice features, but overall it feels like an update better suited to the iPhone than the iPad.

pbarr · 19-09-2013 02:14PM

Sad Professor wrote: »

No. If Apple aren't signing it anymore and you don't have the SHSH blobs saved, then you can't downgrade.

I have the SHSH blobs saved ok but just wondering what program I would use to downgrade. BTW I haven't upgraded yet as I'm using a gevey sim ultra and I want to be able to go back if it stops working which it possibly will.

mad muffin · 19-09-2013 02:37PM

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Did you ever install Windows ME on a PC? Now that was a nightmare :pac:

I should have said iOS heehee. :P

Still. I love what Apple have done with iOS 7. Didn't think I would, after watching the June preview.

brophs · 19-09-2013 02:49PM

I noticed that when sending an iMessage to someone out of data coverage, you get a red exclamation mark and 'not delivered' below. If you tap the exclamation mark it allows you the option of trying again or sending as an SMS. Does anyone know if you don't do that, will it try to send it as an iMessage again, or will it just stay there, unsent? Obviously I know I can enable 'send as SMS', I'm just wondering whether it just tries once as an iMessage and then stops (or sends as SMS, if you have that enabled) or gives it a chance to send, as in iOS 6, where it would only send as a text 10 mins or so later.

Onecoolcookie · 19-09-2013 03:22PM

Small annoyance here, I don't like when you click the power button the way it kind of slowly fades into the lock screen is there a way to turn this off?

Piliger · 19-09-2013 03:23PM

brophs wrote: »

I noticed that when sending an iMessage to someone out of data coverage, you get a red exclamation mark and 'not delivered' below. If you tap the exclamation mark it allows you the option of trying again or sending as an SMS. Does anyone know if you don't do that, will it try to send it as an iMessage again, or will it just stay there, unsent? Obviously I know I can enable 'send as SMS', I'm just wondering whether it just tries once as an iMessage and then stops (or sends as SMS, if you have that enabled) or gives it a chance to send, as in iOS 6, where it would only send as a text 10 mins or so later.

It won't try again. This is not a new 7 issue.

Piliger · 19-09-2013 03:25PM

Onecoolcookie wrote: »

Small annoyance here, I don't like when you click the power button the way it kind of slowly fades into the lock screen is there a way to turn this off?

Get a life !

(just kiddin')

from_atozinc · 19-09-2013 03:26PM

from_atozinc wrote: »

anyone know in safari if there is a quick way to scroll to the very bottom of a page.
I know you can scroll to the top by tapping on teh top of the screen , but anyone know if you can quickly scroll to the very bottom of a web page ?

anyone on this ?

Piliger · 19-09-2013 03:31PM

from_atozinc wrote: »

anyone on this ?

Don't know if I am imagining things but a double tap close to the bottom edge seems to scroll down a few pages at a time...

Stainless_Steel · 19-09-2013 03:43PM

This may be useful:

I was slightly annoyed with safari the way it hides the bottom toolbar. But if you do a quick swipe downward (quick scroll) it reappears.

brophs · 19-09-2013 03:49PM

Piliger wrote: »

It won't try again. This is not a new 7 issue.

iOS 6 had a timeout, after which it would send messages by SMS, if enabled.

from_atozinc · 19-09-2013 03:49PM

Piliger wrote: »

Don't know if I am imagining things but a double tap close to the bottom edge seems to scroll down a few pages at a time...

Think your imagining it, I tired and nothing happened. and I made sure not to do it where there was a link etc

King Hearts · 19-09-2013 03:57PM

How do I download this without wifi

Sad Professor · 19-09-2013 03:58PM

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

This may be useful:

I was slightly annoyed with safari the way it hides the bottom toolbar. But if you do a quick swipe downward (quick scroll) it reappears.

Tap at the bottom of the screen (where it should be) and it will reappear as well.

seamus · 19-09-2013 03:58PM

pbarr wrote: »

I have the SHSH blobs saved ok but just wondering what program I would use to downgrade. BTW I haven't upgraded yet as I'm using a gevey sim ultra and I want to be able to go back if it stops working which it possibly will.

You can use iTunes to downgrade if you have the blobs.

This is for iOS6 -> iOS5, but it should be the exact same:

http://www.mactrast.com/2012/09/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-6-back-to-ios-5-1-1/

iOS 7 GM/Public Release

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