Irish Tap Water - What's in it?

Hatfry · 18-09-2013 01:23AM #1

Hey there, anyone and web resources on Irish tap water and the chemicals used in it? Finding it hard to research online. I'm in swords btw if that helps. Cheers.

ninebeanrows · 18-09-2013 01:27AM

It tastes rank whatever's in it.

Hatfry · 18-09-2013 01:32AM

Weathercheck wrote: »

It tastes rank whatever's in it.

Indeed it does! Can't find info on whether fluorine or chlorine are still in the water supply, any ideas?

elperello · 18-09-2013 02:16AM

Definitely fluoride.
www.fluoridefreewater.ie/‎

Hatfry · 18-09-2013 02:42AM

elperello wrote: »

Definitely fluoride.
www.fluoridefreewater.ie/‎;

Link won't work man, cheers though!

elperello · 18-09-2013 02:56AM

Sorry

Try this -

http://www.irelandagainstfluoridation.org/

Esel · 18-09-2013 03:25AM

Hatfry wrote: »

Link won't work man, cheers though!

http://www.fluoridefreewater.ie/

Don't buy it, though.

Chancer3001 · 18-09-2013 08:09AM

Treated with uv rays as well as far as I know. To kill bacteria.

There's probably some poo in the water. Varying levels depending on where in the country you are.

RidleyRider · 18-09-2013 08:13AM

Is a purifier realistic to have? I feel they're going to keep adding ****e to our water.

cormie · 18-09-2013 08:20AM

My friend feels really strongly against them putting fluoride in our water. To be honest from what I've heard from him, it does sound like there's more reason for them not to put it in. I still drink tap water as I always have, mine doesn't taste so rank where I am thankfully, but to play it safe, would it be a good idea to invest in some kind of filtration/purifcation system I wonder? They have a Reverse Osmosis thing in a cafe up the road from me and say it pretty much gets rid of everything. I think they are around €600, could be worth it for a life long source of cleaner water?

conzy · 18-09-2013 09:57AM

Its funny how people are so upset about fluoride in the water when it is added in much smaller quantities than:

chlorine (kills bacteria)
sulphuric acid (reduces PH)
soda ash / lime (increases PH)
alum (coagulation)

Irish drinking water is perfectly safe to drink, many lab rats around the country are constantly monitoring it and adjusting the chemical dosing to produce the safest cleanest water possible.

Go to LIDL and fill the boot if you don't like the taste of your local water, but there are absolutely no risks associated with drinking your local tap water.

Whey Protein on the other hand, thats steroids

/rant

cormie · 18-09-2013 10:15AM

Surely it would be better to just have pure water without all the added ****e. They say pesticides are harmless to humans too and there's no need for organic fruit and veg but given the choice, I'm going organic even if it's costing more. These things haven't really been around long enough to be certain of the long term implications so I might invest a bit just for peace of mind with the water too?

Chancer3001 · 18-09-2013 12:52PM

You can't "just have the water"

Not feasible to collect enough rainwater.

So they take water from lots of sources.

Obviously untreated river water etc isn't always safe.

corkgsxr · 18-09-2013 12:56PM

Whats in it. Everything basically.

Fluoride and chlorine are used.

You know every few weeks you get a strong chlorine smell off the water? Thats the bacteria count gone too high so they send high levels of chlorine to kill off some.

Used to work for a water filter company

cormie · 18-09-2013 12:57PM

Oh yeah it makes sense they'd have to do something to the water in a treatment system, but once it comes from my tap and if I'll be drinking it, would surely better to have the pure schtuff

Chancer3001 · 18-09-2013 12:59PM

Yeah absolutely. Filtration is the way t go. Expensive though

cormie · 18-09-2013 01:03PM

Does reverse osmosis remove everything yeah or is there any better/cheaper methods that would give purified water as a result?

corkgsxr · 18-09-2013 01:06PM

cormie wrote: »

Does reverse osmosis remove everything yeah or is there any better/cheaper methods that would give purified water as a result?

Osmosis strips everything.

Theres nothing better but is dear to maintain. Up to 160 a year

How filtered you want to go is up to you

cabb8ge · 18-09-2013 01:09PM

conzy wrote: »

,,,,,,
Whey Protein on the other hand, thats steroids

/rant

Steroid? whey?

Is that factual truth or opinion?

RO water taste terrible by the way.
and RO not remove everything, if it did RO water could be used for injection purposes

corkgsxr · 18-09-2013 01:21PM

cabb8ge wrote: »

Steroid? whey?

Is that factual truth or opinion?

RO water taste terrible by the way.
and RO not remove everything, if it did RO water could be used for injection purposes

What doesn't it remove

For domestic purposes its as close as you can get

conzy · 18-09-2013 01:49PM

cabb8ge wrote: »

Steroid? whey?

Is that factual truth or opinion?

RO water taste terrible by the way.
and RO not remove everything, if it did RO water could be used for injection purposes

I was just being sarcastic mentioning another sensationalist opinion

eviltimeban · 18-09-2013 01:52PM

Could the same question be asked of bottled water? Like, if you are buying a cheap brand, 2L bottle of water for 55c, is that going to be totally pure water? It tastes better for sure... but that doesn't mean there's nothing in it.

doccy · 18-09-2013 03:04PM

Coca Cola sold glorified tap water a few years ago. I've always been suspicious of cheap bottled water anyway ... filtered through Volcanic what now.

Esel · 18-09-2013 06:12PM

Perrier ftw.

JJayoo · 18-09-2013 06:36PM

conzy wrote: »

Its funny how people are so upset about fluoride in the water when it is added in much smaller quantities than:

chlorine (kills bacteria)
sulphuric acid (reduces PH)
soda ash / lime (increases PH)
alum (coagulation)

Can you clue me in on the benefits of ingesting fluoride?

Chancer3001 · 18-09-2013 11:03PM

Good for your teeth apparently

http://skeptoid.com/mobile/4058

The United States Public Health Service estimates that every dollar spent fluoridating water saves fifty dollars in dental expenses.

JJayoo · 18-09-2013 11:44PM

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Good for your teeth apparently

http://skeptoid.com/mobile/4058

The United States Public Health Service estimates that every dollar spent fluoridating water saves fifty dollars in dental expenses.

Fluoride is good for your teeth in the same way that mouthwash is good for your teeth i.e when it is in contact. As soon as you swallow the water, the fluoride has zero benefit for your teeth. This is a fact.

The republic of Ireland is the only country in Europe that adds Fluoride to its drinking water. In Spain and the UK Fluoride is added to 10% of the drinking water.

It costs 4-5 million to add fluoride to Irish water.

There was a study in 2001 (Luke 2001,Fluoride Deposition in the Aged Human Pineal Gland ) which showed that fluoride accumulates in the Pineal Gland. This was the first time that fluoride was proven to accumulate in the pineal gland.

The pineal gland is located in the brain but it is outside the Blood Brain Barrier. The study didn't show that there was any negative effect from the fluoride accumulation as that wasn't its function but it was strongly recommended that fluorides affect on Pineal Gland function should be studies and it never was. Not a single study into any possible issues with Fluoride accumulating in huge amounts in your fecking brain.

cormie · 19-09-2013 12:52AM

That sounds dodgy! So suggestions on water purifications anyone? Reverse osmosis or what?

JCabot · 19-09-2013 05:46AM

I looked into this some years ago loosing both parents. I felt there may be a link between drinking chemical substances in water even in small doses which is a poison and illness. I found the links between hexafluorosilicic acid and illness to be conviencing enough for me to want it removed. I don't believe the effects on the body to me immediate but more accumulative and not really evident for years.

There is an environmental scientist in cork call Declan Waugh who compiled recent comprehensive report on this, and from I have seen of this if even a small percentage of what he is saying is true it certaintly is enough to question this pratice of adding fluoride to our water.

The only way to remove it is with a distiller or a Ro unit costing about 200/300 euros

Peregrinus · 19-09-2013 06:07AM

You can buy distilled water in any supermarket. That's as pure as you're going to get without setting up your own still. It tastes . . . bland.

Water from any other source you can think of has stuff in it. Even rainwater. What's in your tap water is monitored and controlled - maybe more effectively, maybe less effectively, but at least an effort is made, and a responsibility is accepted, for ensuring that it is safe to drink.

Yes, you can spend considerable amounts of money to filter the water that comes out of your tap before you drink it. Or you could set up system to distill the water that comes out of your tap before you drink it, which is probably more effective than filtration. And of course you can steam-clean all the containers in which you propose to store water, or from which you propose to drink it. Mostly, though, the help benefits of doing so are marginal, if not neglible. For that expenditure of money and effort you can probably do other things that will have greater health benefits

Corkbah · 19-09-2013 06:28AM

Peregrinus wrote: »

You can buy distilled water in any supermarket. That's as pure as you're going to get without setting up your own still. It tastes . . . bland.

Water from any other source you can think of has stuff in it. Even rainwater. What's in your tap water is monitored and controlled - maybe more effectively, maybe less effectively, but at least an effort is made, and a responsibility is accepted, for ensuring that it is safe to drink.

Yes, you can spend considerable amounts of money to filter the water that comes out of your tap before you drink it. Or you could set up system to distill the water that comes out of your tap before you drink it, which is probably more effective than filtration. And of course you can steam-clean all the containers in which you propose to store water, or from which you propose to drink it. Mostly, though, the help benefits of doing so are marginal, if not neglible. For that expenditure of money and effort you can probably do other things that will have greater health benefits

but is it a case of that the effects are not noticed until a number of years - in which case the costs involved may be prohibitive or they may very well be worth it - the problem is there are too many other variables in our lives to say whether this would be worth doing ?

you could argue that we currently have people living in their 80/90's and some actually reach the 100+ mark, and they've all drank Irish Water ...but then you could also say that over the last 20+ years technology has advanced so much that what is in the water now (or simply our lifestyles now) ...will contribute to a lesser lifespan - so many unnatural chemicals in our bodies combined with increased stresses of work etc etc.

Irish Tap Water - What's in it?

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