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  • #362
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    eireannBEAR wrote: »
    Answer me!!!! :mad:

    Can your repeat the question please!!


  • #363
    eireannBEAR
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭eireannBEAR


    Thanks for the replies,in your experience,which milk companies pay the most/least to farmers?

    Id personally buy the brand that paid local businesses/farmers more.


  • #364
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    whitebriar wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/agribusiness-and-food/how-the-big-co-ops-plan-to-keep-milking-high-prices-1.1528552

    QUOTE]
    eireannBEAR wrote: »
    1.29c per 2 liters of bainne ur.

    do the cheaper milks such as strathroy pay less to the farmers than avonmore?

    Eireannbear the article above is a poorly researched article with the author having little or no understanding of supermarket power. I am not a dairy farmer by the way. I do not know what Strathroy pay however over the last ten years or more the UK has failed to fill its EU quota so UK farmers must not be rolling in money. In Ireland Kerrygroup has exited the liquid milk market as it is not making enough of a return. The UK market returned less to farmers previously than the Irish market did as we exported a lot of our product.

    While the difference in branded and unbranded is huge in price Supermarket only contract a certain amount at that price and convenience shops the same. I imagine that a lot of convenience only take a limited amount of this milk as there margin is much higher on the branded product and if you are buying milk after 8pm at night you are stuck and will not be travelling another mile or two to save a euro which you will spend on car fuel anyway.

    The co-op do not pocket the difference between branded and unbranded most of the difference goes to the shop. It is the same with other branded products wheather they are sweets, biscuits, breakfast cereals, sugar, meat or burgers. I think this journalist as is Joe public in for a shock over the next ten years. Food inflation is going to be a serious issue. We have had 30 years of virtually stagnant food prices at farm gate level. For the last 10 years farm input inflation is out striping all other inflation.

    Just to give you an example 10 years ago Urea(a fertilizer) traded at about 230/ton this year it is about 430/ton ( I am a small producer so have not got the bargaining power of bigger producers). Cattle rations were about 160/ton last winter they were nearly 300/ton. The biggest hike has been fuel from about 35c/litre to about 90c/litre this has added cost right up the line.


  • #365
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Milk went up a cent andhalf for august last night in west cork and we think this is the highest it has ever been.so make the most of it because you know what happens next.coop is .47 % over quota at endof aug and running 7 % ahead of 2011 for sept (17% ahead of2013)


  • #366
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    keep going wrote: »
    Milk went up a cent andhalf for august last night in west cork and we think this is the highest it has ever been.so make the most of it because you know what happens next.coop is .47 % over quota at endof aug and running 7 % ahead of 2011 for sept (17% ahead of2013)
    whats the base price now?


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  • #367
    keep going
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    Milked out wrote: »
    whats the base price now?

    Off the top of my bad head , 42.7 I think.correction I think thats the average price paid out.soon as I can ill doublecheck


  • #368
    jersey101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭jersey101


    August milk price - 45.78C/l
    Have 20% in fixed- 36.05c/l ( losing big money on that)
    BF 4.50%
    PR 3.79%


  • #369
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    spoke with a lakelands supplier at the mart, he said his milk protein figure didnt go above 2,8 all winter and it hasnt gone above 3.2 all summer:eek: i said is it feeding or breeding thats the problem, he looked at me like i had 3 heads.. he said sure you cant have yields and solids. What way do lakelands pay i assume its more or less the same as glanbia


  • #370
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    whelan1 wrote: »
    spoke with a lakelands supplier at the mart, he said his milk protein figure didnt go above 2,8 all winter and it hasnt gone above 3.2 all summer:eek: i said is it feeding or breeding thats the problem, he looked at me like i had 3 heads.. he said sure you cant have yields and solids. What way do lakelands pay i assume its more or less the same as glanbia

    A few guys here to disprove him. At least his butterfat adjustment won't put him over quota!!!


  • #371
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    delaval wrote: »
    A few guys here to disprove him. At least his butterfat adjustment won't put him over quota!!!
    an old man well into his 60's if not more 40 cows... had 3 smashing wh calves in mart said they where drinking 6 gallons of milk a day.


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  • #372
    loveta
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    whelan1 wrote: »
    spoke with a lakelands supplier at the mart, he said his milk protein figure didnt go above 2,8 all winter and it hasnt gone above 3.2 all summer:eek: i said is it feeding or breeding thats the problem, he looked at me like i had 3 heads.. he said sure you cant have yields and solids. What way do lakelands pay i assume its more or less the same as glanbia

    Lakeland do A+B-C there must be a serious energy shortage going into the cows diet to have a 2.8 protein avg "unless there given 3k gals a year":)


  • #373
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    whelan1 wrote: »
    spoke with a lakelands supplier at the mart, he said his milk protein figure didnt go above 2,8 all winter and it hasnt gone above 3.2 all summer:eek: i said is it feeding or breeding thats the problem, he looked at me like i had 3 heads.. he said sure you cant have yields and solids. What way do lakelands pay i assume its more or less the same as glanbia

    Protien is 45 % feeding 55% genetic according to teagasc.

    I would wager its a bit of both with that man.


  • #374
    red bull
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    keep going wrote: »
    Off the top of my bad head , 42.7 I think.correction I think thats the average price paid out.soon as I can ill doublecheck

    Is that the base price ?


  • #375
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    DG base for aug 39c/l


  • #376
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Country.36% under end august


  • #377
    6480
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭6480


    protein here so far this year has only crossed 3.2 with lakelands in the past 6 weeks , its 3.47 at the min, 3/4 bred br fr out of fr hol cows, the worst year i seen for protein and its the same with all lakeland suppliers i do be talking to , our protein here use to never be below 3.35 all year round , i am blaming that it was to do with the abuse the ground got last year but i still dont know


  • #378
    TEAT SQUEEZER
    Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭TEAT SQUEEZER


    its a funny world, proteins are as good as ever they were here 3.82% fr/ho herd.
    as a liquid supplier in glanbia the price band agreement cost me 200 euro a week for august:mad::mad::mad:


  • #379
    case 956
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭case 956


    TEAT SQUEEZER wrote: »
    its a funny world, proteins are as good as ever they were here 3.82% fr/ho herd.
    as a liquid supplier in glanbia the price band agreement cost me 200 euro a week for august:mad::mad::mad:


    1st year milking and protein struggled to get off from been 2.99 in feb to 3.03 in july and that was the highest it ever been to 3.70 this week and thats from a pure br/ho herd all 1st lactation animals... i dont know whether it down to me concentrating on the grassland and improving quality of grass or what


  • #380
    TEAT SQUEEZER
    Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭TEAT SQUEEZER


    case 956 wrote: »
    1st year milking and protein struggled to get off from been 2.99 in feb to 3.03 in july and that was the highest it ever been to 3.70 this week and thats from a pure br/ho herd all 1st lactation animals... i dont know whether it down to me concentrating on the grassland and improving quality of grass or what

    alot of tightly grazed fields post drought and the subsequent regrowth is like aftergrass is what im presuming ... best of luck with the dairying


  • #381
    kevthegaff
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    case 956 wrote: »
    1st year milking and protein struggled to get off from been 2.99 in feb to 3.03 in july and that was the highest it ever been to 3.70 this week and thats from a pure br/ho herd all 1st lactation animals... i dont know whether it down to me concentrating on the grassland and improving quality of grass or what

    How ye finding the milking game case?


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  • #382
    whitebriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭whitebriar


    keep going wrote: »
    Country.36% under end august
    Looks like by November that will be heading into overquota with what looks like a lengthy Indian summer on the way?

    Another one Ken ring has got wrong,but then who listens to that quack?


  • #383
    case 956
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭case 956


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    How ye finding the milking game case?

    Love it kev.... wasnt a case of just deciding to do it would have been in yrs ago if quota was available... knew wat I w a s letting myself in for as worked on various dairy farms for 4 yr after college and did the dairy course in ag college and milked with the uncle every day from age 8. It what I always wanted. Struggle at the begonning getting solids up and all thst but I focused on improving grassland this yr


  • #384
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    whitebriar wrote: »
    Looks like by November that will be heading into overquota with what looks like a lengthy Indian summer on the way?

    Another one Ken ring has got wrong,but then who listens to that quack?

    Is the forecast that good?


  • #385
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    whitebriar wrote: »
    Looks like by November that will be heading into overquota with what looks like a lengthy Indian summer on the way?

    Another one Ken ring has got wrong,but then who listens to that quack?
    could have my cows out til christmas yet:D


  • #386
    whitebriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭whitebriar


    delaval wrote: »
    Is the forecast that good?

    Can never be definite,and in my view,there will be rain at times but it looks at the moment as though,it might pan out that milking cows could be kept out well into November,as it won't be cold and there mightn't be a lot of rain.
    Anyone that put fert out in the last week should see a very good response?
    certainly Monday onwards for a week or so is looking warm (low 20's).
    Beyond that high pressure looks like being close by,hence,rain shouldn't be too problematic! Especially in the east/south?
    Fingers crossed.


  • #387
    loveta
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    whitebriar wrote: »
    Looks like by November that will be heading into overquota with what looks like a lengthy Indian summer on the way?

    Another one Ken ring has got wrong,but then who listens to that quack?

    Did he not give a balmy sep 2013 last year and then the weather to "fall of" as he put it quiet quickly after that??? Well thats the way i read it any ways :)


  • #388
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    whelan1 wrote: »
    could have my cows out til christmas yet:D

    Careful you need grass in Feb!!!!!


  • #389
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    whitebriar wrote: »
    Can never be definite,and in my view,there will be rain at times but it looks at the moment as though,it might pan out that milking cows could be kept out well into November,as it won't be cold and there mightn't be a lot of rain.
    Anyone that put fert out in the last week should see a very good response?
    certainly Monday onwards for a week or so is looking warm (low 20's).
    Beyond that high pressure looks like being close by,hence,rain shouldn't be too problematic! Especially in the east/south?
    Fingers crossed.

    Should I chance 25 unit N in last week of Sept?


  • #390
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    delaval wrote: »
    Careful you need grass in Feb!!!!!
    ah sure the sheep will look after that- NOT


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  • #391
    whitebriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭whitebriar


    loveta wrote: »
    Did he not give a balmy sep 2013 last year and then the weather to "fall of" as he put it quiet quickly after that??? Well thats the way i read it any ways :)
    Nope-he posts on the weather forum,and he repeated last week that we've seen the last of the warm weather...

    There's to be more rain this week.I've the last of mine out but to answer the poster who asked,get some out today if you can.
    No point later as its going to be dry probably from Monday.


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