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Do you think you'll emmigrate?

  • 02-09-2013 11:54pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭


    I have always planned to (recession or no recession), and I'll probably head to England straight after college, spend 5-10 years there, and then possibly move further afield to Australia or maybe Canada. I'd love to live in the USA but it's unlikely I'll ever get the chance to move there permanently.

    So, will you emigrate?

    Poll added. :cool:

    Do you think you'll emmigrate? 51 votes

    Yes
    0%
    No
    66%
    Cavehill RedPigwidgeonfinnmcoolmarko93GSFshanec1928LoonyLovegoodpajorNemanja91Slow ShowJunco Partnerchris_john_laneSarahBeep!Joey.anirishladwnolan1992MauraTheThirdCherry Blossom GirlJhaxHandsomeDivil 34 votes
    Undecided
    21%
    clickhereCian92unknown13pogsicksuitcasepinkBobbyPropaneGet RealMadconLenin Skynardmadmax79Noccy_Mondy 11 votes
    Whatever I feel like, GOSH!!
    11%
    wordedStereomaniacalleystarSparkySpitfiretr0llfaceMickFleetwood 6 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭brownacid


    No, I might emigrate though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭SarahBeep!


    No
    Yup, start a teaching job in England next friday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭Junco Partner


    No
    Aye, two more years saving to go back to college, four years there and then it's off to Canada right quick got some family over there probably head to them
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    No
    I've always planned to emigrate eventually as well. The recession and closure of a few big players (PopCap and potentially Big Fish :() has just kind of solidified my position.

    To be honest I think even if there was 100% employment here I'd like to live and work abroad for a few years. I'd really love to live in Scandinavia for a while.

    I'd envisage returning to Ireland at some point, but if it didn't happen I don't think I'd be that upset to be brutally honest. I've kind of grown increasingly frustrated with how things work here, both politically and socially, and I think a break from that to show me that other countries can be worse might be a good thing. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    Look at ye, running off after your free degree. Bunch of robbers sure isn't it terrible.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 713 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom Girl


    No
    I'm planning to within the next 6-12 months. I'll probably stick with somewhere in Europe; as much as I like America I honestly don't think I could live there even for a short period of time.

    As to how long I stay gone, I honestly don't know. I'm hoping to get a job and travel around quite a bit if possible, and also do my MA in a European University so probably a few years. I can't see myself emigrating permanently though, and nor do I want to. As much as people complain about Ireland I think it is one of the better places in the world to live.

    Mostly I just want to take a few years out to see some of the world and experience other cultures while I still have the opportunity. Returning to Ireland and building a solid future is definitely on the cards for me, provided that I can get a good job here when that time comes.

    Now that I've written that all down, the thought of actually emigrating scares the bejaysus out of me. I'm a baby :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    Yes I plan to leave and probably never return permantley. I don't know when I don't know where but I'm guessing one more year here and either first year off this island will probably be England . I've been here too long for my liking .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Jhax


    No
    This is my last year of college. I'll be saving up money from working on the weekends and such. After I graduate I'll probably be applying for a visa to Japan and I'll be heading there for a year at least to teach English. To be honest I don't see why people wouldn't want to leave this country, or rather any country they grew up in. You've only got one life and there is so many different cultures and people out beyond this little island to experience I think you'd be mad not to go away for a little while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Whatever I feel like, GOSH!!
    Undecided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    No
    I'm probably going to. There's no jobs here, nothing to keep me here apart from my family. I'll do my degree, do my post grad, and then I'm getting out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Tom_Cruise


    No
    Do you have to have a degree to successfully move and support yourself in a different country? Just looking for peoples opinions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    No
    I've given this kip of a country enough of my life.
    **** weather, rubbish politicians, crap public services, rip-off shops, and docile populace who'd rather roll over and take it up the crapper than stand up for themselves. No offence. :D
    It's time I tried a change of scenery. I'll be gone within the year, and expect that I'll wish I'd done it sooner once I have done.
    Where to? Wherever I find suitable work. North America, Western Europe, South East Asia, Australia are all possibilities (and my preferences run in that order.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭Pigwidgeon


    No
    I've always planned on travelling and working abroad, thankfully I'm in an industry where I can get work pretty much anywhere in the world, and I'm working for an internationally known company at the moment so I can apply for transfers and the likes. In all the hype of pure emigration over the last few years I'd kind of forgotten my original dream of spending two years travelling and doing a round the world trip, stopping off in australia for a while to get some more funds for travelling. So much things in this country frustrate me, and I would like to experience other cultures and countries but I reckon I'll always end up back here. As a chef, it would be pretty stupid and naive to only ever live and work in Ireland, I'm never going to broaden my horizons otherwise. But yeah, I plan on spending the next year or two to start my adventures who knows where I might end up loving and living though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭JamJamJamJam


    I said "Whatever I feel like, GOSH!!!" because... Well, it's probably just the most accurate!

    I think I'll leave for a while at least for the experience of other countries and cultures (and it may be a necessary step in the aul' career). But the older I get the more I appreciate Ireland. For now, I can see myself living here permanently in the end. Maybe it's just because I've travelled like, nowhere, so I'm a bit naive... I just feel so at home in Ireland, even if I'm somewhere around the country I've never even been. I think people have a very colourful way of expressing themselves. I like the mannerisms. I like that there's a sense of community in a lot of ways. I love that there's banter in everything!! I was in London a few weeks ago, and that's cool and all, but it just not the same. Also, my accent isn't an issue here :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    No
    "Whatever I feel like, GOSH!!" was a Napoleon Dynamite reference btw. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭JamJamJamJam


    "Whatever I feel like, GOSH!!" was a Napoleon Dynamite reference btw. :P

    Damn :P I haven't seen that :P *feels inadequate* ... Maybe I should emigrate :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭SarahBeep!


    No
    I get what you mean (JamJam)^2

    One of my favourite lyrics ever is 'Chase your dreams but always know the road that'll lead you home again..' (Good old Tim McGraw <3)

    I love Ireland, but I think the way to really appreciate home is to be away and realise what you had on your doorstep. The world, in all reality, is a teeny tiny place. Might as well go for it.

    The world is more accessible now than ever before so we might as well go for it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭J DEERE


    I've given this kip of a country enough of my life.
    **** weather, rubbish politicians, crap public services, rip-off shops, and docile populace who'd rather roll over and take it up the crapper than stand up for themselves. No offence. :D
    It's time I tried a change of scenery. I'll be gone within the year, and expect that I'll wish I'd done it sooner once I have done.
    Where to? Wherever I find suitable work. North America, Western Europe, South East Asia, Australia are all possibilities (and my preferences run in that order.)


    You won't be any major loss to Ireland nor will you be any major gain to whatever country you go to with that attitude


  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭TheBrewMeister


    You people have a very distorted view of what life is like here in the U.S.

    You think you have a "docile populace?" This country is full of the fattest, dumbest ****ing people Ive ever met. They are being robbed blind by the people they "elect." Meanwhile, all the give a **** about is who Kim Kardashian is banging this week.

    The US has become the England of old - an Empire. We are taxing our citizens to death and using that money to murder, obliterate and conquer the nations of the middle east.

    The CIA is the largest terrorist organization in the world. They overthrow duly elected govt's and install their own politicians, then wage war against the innocent people of those countries when they stop taking orders.. (see iran coup 1953, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden)

    All the principles that this country was founded upon - Liberty - are being systematically taken away and the people don't care. The US is the new Nazi regime.

    You will not find work here. You WILL, however, find debt. Abe Lincoln sold this country back to the Bank of London/ Rothschilds in 1862. WE are NOT free.

    So yes, enjoy your "free" education, then come here and get some debt. It's the thing to do!


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 finnmcool


    No
    I'd go in a heartbeat with my family if I could afford to.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Caonima


    Tom_Cruise wrote: »
    Do you have to have a degree to successfully move and support yourself in a different country? Just looking for peoples opinions.

    Most Asian countries require you to have at least a degree to get a visa to work there (esp. China, Japan, Korea). The better the qualifications you have, the higher the salary you can negotiate. I left Ireland with a Masters.
    I've given this kip of a country enough of my life.
    **** weather, rubbish politicians, crap public services, rip-off shops, and docile populace who'd rather roll over and take it up the crapper than stand up for themselves. No offence. :D
    It's time I tried a change of scenery. I'll be gone within the year, and expect that I'll wish I'd done it sooner once I have done.
    Where to? Wherever I find suitable work. North America, Western Europe, South East Asia, Australia are all possibilities (and my preferences run in that order.)

    Don't come to Shanghai - don't want any of your negativity over here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    No
    Have already left... Got offered a job in ireland this morning and i turned it down :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    No
    Caonima wrote: »
    Don't come to Shanghai - don't want any of your negativity over here

    I wouldn't sh1te on Shanghai. The only Chinese cities I'd remotely consider living in would be Hong Kong, Taipei or Singapore. I'm not fond of living in police states.


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭chris_john_lane


    No
    thinking about it , scary tho !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭chris_john_lane


    No
    Canada!


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭chris_john_lane


    No
    Aye, two more years saving to go back to college, four years there and then it's off to Canada right quick got some family over there probably head to them
    .

    Lucky you having contacts over there


  • Registered Users Posts: 818 ✭✭✭MauraTheThird


    No
    Currently in college and I dunno how transferable my degree is but it's been my life's ambition to go travelling since I was a foot tall. I literally cannot comprehend the thought of staying here in Ireland all my life. I just couldn't do it. There's so much to see, do, experience in this world that I would go insane not attempting to try it all.

    I'd love to live in Australia for a while, 5-10 years though I have no idea how viable that is, England too. I just want to try so much before I decide to settle down. I see myself moving back to Ireland to have a family and get married (all that stuff). My family is real close knit and if I were to have children, I'd like them to experience that.

    That said, I'm only 19 now and my dreams/plans/ideals will change before all this becomes a reality for me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Caonima


    I wouldn't sh1te on Shanghai. The only Chinese cities I'd remotely consider living in would be Hong Kong, Taipei or Singapore. I'm not fond of living in police states.

    Picking the three most un-Chinese cities there; nice one.

    So you're not fond of living in police states - how many have you lived in then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,382 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    I've been in Korea for 6 months and its been a good experience. Living in another culture makes you more aware of Ireland's strengths and flaws.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    No
    Caonima wrote: »
    Picking the three most un-Chinese cities there; nice one.

    So you're not fond of living in police states - how many have you lived in then?

    Four or five, including the PRC. Also, all of those cities I name are Chinese, just not PRC Chinese.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Caonima


    Also, all of those cities I name are Chinese, just not PRC Chinese.

    I am aware.
    Four or five, including the PRC.

    And what a well-rounded person they've made you.

    Anyway, don't come to Shanghai :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 Nero707


    No
    Probably. My grandfather, who has all my college money, lives in England. So, that is the most likely place I'll be going to. I will miss Ireland a lot, and visit as often as I can. Though, the emigration depends on whether or not I can get into the college I want to here, and so many other factors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭alleystar


    Whatever I feel like, GOSH!!
    Undecided. Strangely enough I think I'd miss Ireland. That being said being stuck on the dole in your hometown is soul destroying especially after three or four years of college.

    The UK or mainland Europe would be my preference I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    No
    an overwhelming majority already deciding on emigration. There will be a serious brain drain in Ireland in years to come.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Days 298


    No
    I've decided to emigrate once I'm out of college. There is no point to stick around. We are waiting for "the recovery". No one want to tell us what it is or when we will be there. I've a funny feeling my taxes would be spent cleaning up this mess and the debt forgiveness some want and not to provide services for me as an adult. There is a pension crisis waiting to happen in the future and I hope to be set up well in another country by then. I'll stick to the English speaking countries. Probably Australia or Canada first build experience and ultimately the States but I am still unsure. Canada would be closer to home but Australia is a nice country to live in too.

    As the post above says a brain drain is imminent. I doubt the government of today care. It is and will make the unemployment % look smaller than it is. Planning ahead or thinking ahead is not the strong point of governments here. They generally stumbles from crisis to crisis fixing them with duct tape :rolleyes:

    I can't wait to emigrate, one of the first thing I'll do is buy either a gas guzzling SUV or a muscle/fast car the likes of which are crazy dear to run here :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    I read an article headline a few days ago. "Ireland on the way to recovery, sign on ques fall"
    Ya there bloody falling because there's no one left in the country. Everyday for the last few weeks the flights to Australia are packed. Numbers such as 60* to Sydney and 50* to Melbourne are shocking. Had a lady and her child today with their life in four suitcases off to start a new future in Oz. And it's the same most days always someone telling this is their life their off. And so many returning there. Only back for a visit. It's sad to say I think this country is in big trouble in terms of a slow and painful recovery. Talking to a couple who moved out to oz 40years ago And are very happy.
    It's very hard for people to make the decisions to stop their current life and restart somewhere else. And it's going to leave it's Mark. Yes many would come Home in a heart beat but a lot just can't come back to the place that pushed them out. I find it sad and just can't imagine what the future is going to be like for Ireland. But it'll be no Celtic tiger again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    I reckon I will eventually. I'll get bored with Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭TheBrewMeister


    Days 298 wrote: »
    I've decided to emigrate once I'm out of college. There is no point to stick around. We are waiting for "the recovery". No one want to tell us what it is or when we will be there. I've a funny feeling my taxes would be spent cleaning up this mess and the debt forgiveness some want and not to provide services for me as an adult. There is a pension crisis waiting to happen in the future and I hope to be set up well in another country by then. I'll stick to the English speaking countries. Probably Australia or Canada first build experience and ultimately the States but I am still unsure. Canada would be closer to home but Australia is a nice country to live in too.

    As the post above says a brain drain is imminent. I doubt the government of today care. It is and will make the unemployment % look smaller than it is. Planning ahead or thinking ahead is not the strong point of governments here. They generally stumbles from crisis to crisis fixing them with duct tape :rolleyes:

    I can't wait to emigrate, one of the first thing I'll do is buy either a gas guzzling SUV or a muscle/fast car the likes of which are crazy dear to run here :)

    Not sure why everyone thinks the States are doing ok. They have the same "Tax and spend our way out of trouble attitude" There's no recovery, they just printed a bunch of money. Once everyone figures out how much "free money" is floating around the economy the bottom's going to fall out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭SarahBeep!


    No
    SarahBeep! wrote: »
    Yup, start a teaching job in England next friday!

    Just spotted this thread and wanted to pop in.

    Two months on and I'm happier than I've ever been. To anyone who is on the fence, go for it. If it doesn't work out you can always come home. My cousin is in Oz for a year since January and him and his friends have been granted a second year on their visas. He's even got to go to Africa with work! Zero chance of that happening if he'd have stayed here.

    My best friend is in America since January and he's doing his best to stay there. As much as we all miss him, he's happier there now than he's ever been since I've known him.

    Just go for it :)


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